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	<title>Comments on: Israeli Spox Denies Bibi Called Rahm And Axelrod &#8220;Self-Hating Jews&#8221; &#8212; Then Hangs Up</title>
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		<title>By: rbe1</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;Calling Israel a “racist theocracy” is an “intriguing” way to describe a country where the voters have political philosophies at least as diverse as ours, and probably more so.&quot;
I believe that Tena was trying to express a point about the sensitivities of certain people in the USA to any remarks which could in any fashion be construed as critical of Israel. I think the characterization was refreshingly colorful. Too bad we can&#039;t have an honest discussion about the belligerent policies of the Israel government without being labelled as anti-semite, but there you are. In europe, people are privately outraged by Israeli treatment of the prisoners in Gaza, but their governments suffocate any public discussion out of fear of being labelled - you guessed it - anti-semitic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;Calling Israel a “racist theocracy” is an “intriguing” way to describe a country where the voters have political philosophies at least as diverse as ours, and probably more so.&#8221;<br />
I believe that Tena was trying to express a point about the sensitivities of certain people in the USA to any remarks which could in any fashion be construed as critical of Israel. I think the characterization was refreshingly colorful. Too bad we can&#8217;t have an honest discussion about the belligerent policies of the Israel government without being labelled as anti-semite, but there you are. In europe, people are privately outraged by Israeli treatment of the prisoners in Gaza, but their governments suffocate any public discussion out of fear of being labelled &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; anti-semitic.</p>
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		<title>By: tophat123</title>
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		<dc:creator>tophat123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every day Arab countries routinely repress and brutalize their citizens -- and instead you get all excited about playing &quot;gotcha&quot; with what is said by Israeli politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day Arab countries routinely repress and brutalize their citizens &#8212; and instead you get all excited about playing &#8220;gotcha&#8221; with what is said by Israeli politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Ydef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ydef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oddjob:

The voters might have diverse political philosophies, but unless those ideas filter up to the government and affects a change in policy, the description of a &#039;racist theocracy&#039; to describe the Israeli state is not far off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oddjob:</p>
<p>The voters might have diverse political philosophies, but unless those ideas filter up to the government and affects a change in policy, the description of a &#8216;racist theocracy&#8217; to describe the Israeli state is not far off.</p>
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		<title>By: benjoya</title>
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		<dc:creator>benjoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jews were doing fine in spain till the christians took over. fortunately, the ottomans took them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jews were doing fine in spain till the christians took over. fortunately, the ottomans took them in.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We should all remember that 2000 years ago all ancestors of todays, Christiand and Moslems were probably Jews also.&quot;

Um, no. Mormonism branched off from Protestantism, which broke away from Catholicism. But if a Mongolian yak herder decides to become a Mormon, that does not mean his ancestors were Catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We should all remember that 2000 years ago all ancestors of todays, Christiand and Moslems were probably Jews also.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no. Mormonism branched off from Protestantism, which broke away from Catholicism. But if a Mongolian yak herder decides to become a Mormon, that does not mean his ancestors were Catholic.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Teil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Teil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all remember that 2000 years ago all ancestors of todays, Christiand and Moslems were probably Jews also. Therefore if the right to the land of Palestine is going to be based on a lineage to our ancestors all memebers of the three great Religions have an equal claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all remember that 2000 years ago all ancestors of todays, Christiand and Moslems were probably Jews also. Therefore if the right to the land of Palestine is going to be based on a lineage to our ancestors all memebers of the three great Religions have an equal claim.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan: &quot;Provide a source for your information that none of the soldiers committed war crimes because the UN would beg to differ.&quot;

anon was simply correcting sgwhiteinfla&#039;s (and Haaretz&#039;s) claim that the reports were based on testimony from soldiers directly involved in the war crimes. As it turned out, the soldiers were simply reporting hearsay. This is all anon was saying, he didn&#039;t say Israel has been cleared of all war crimes, forever and anon.

And everyone calling Israel a racist state, keep in mind that autocracies are great at hiding their defects, while democracies are great at exposing them. 75% of Israeli Arabs say they would stay put in Israel even after an independent Palestinian state is created. How many are willing to bet that the number of Uighurs and Tibetans who would say the same would be that high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan: &#8220;Provide a source for your information that none of the soldiers committed war crimes because the UN would beg to differ.&#8221;</p>
<p>anon was simply correcting sgwhiteinfla&#8217;s (and Haaretz&#8217;s) claim that the reports were based on testimony from soldiers directly involved in the war crimes. As it turned out, the soldiers were simply reporting hearsay. This is all anon was saying, he didn&#8217;t say Israel has been cleared of all war crimes, forever and anon.</p>
<p>And everyone calling Israel a racist state, keep in mind that autocracies are great at hiding their defects, while democracies are great at exposing them. 75% of Israeli Arabs say they would stay put in Israel even after an independent Palestinian state is created. How many are willing to bet that the number of Uighurs and Tibetans who would say the same would be that high?</p>
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		<title>By: oddjob</title>
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		<dc:creator>oddjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling Israel a &quot;racist theocracy&quot; is an &quot;intriguing&quot; way to describe a country where the voters have political philosophies at least as diverse as ours, and probably more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling Israel a &#8220;racist theocracy&#8221; is an &#8220;intriguing&#8221; way to describe a country where the voters have political philosophies at least as diverse as ours, and probably more so.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Indeed, it’s interesting how hard it was to get a denial out of the Israeli government, perhaps because yesterday was a fasting day.

The fact that anybody in the Israeli government would respond on Shiv&#039;ah Asar Betammuz is surprising. Israel is a Jewish you need to deal with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Indeed, it’s interesting how hard it was to get a denial out of the Israeli government, perhaps because yesterday was a fasting day.</p>
<p>The fact that anybody in the Israeli government would respond on Shiv&#8217;ah Asar Betammuz is surprising. Israel is a Jewish you need to deal with that.</p>
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		<title>By: harhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>harhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has studied these 2 evil religions will know, this is why there will NEVER be peace between Jews and Muslims, regardless of any effort undertaken by the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has studied these 2 evil religions will know, this is why there will NEVER be peace between Jews and Muslims, regardless of any effort undertaken by the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: harhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>harhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel IS a Racist theocracy; everyone knows their religious texts say ONLY Jews are worthy (by the way, written by Jews).  They call everyone else on the planet &#039;cattle&#039;.
This criminal arrogance in itself sets them against every other country, and the Muslims are exactly the same--How can the Creator/Architect/God endorse Racism, Lies, Murder, Genocide?
Neither of these &#039;great&#039; religions is of God; they are both clever lies and their clash will eventually destroy all of us if we allow it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel IS a Racist theocracy; everyone knows their religious texts say ONLY Jews are worthy (by the way, written by Jews).  They call everyone else on the planet &#8216;cattle&#8217;.<br />
This criminal arrogance in itself sets them against every other country, and the Muslims are exactly the same&#8211;How can the Creator/Architect/God endorse Racism, Lies, Murder, Genocide?<br />
Neither of these &#8216;great&#8217; religions is of God; they are both clever lies and their clash will eventually destroy all of us if we allow it</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter which country the people on the human rights committee are from they are all jurists and international experts who should not be judged from the country of their births.

Every human rights group on the planet agree that Israel is a criminal state.

And Mark Regev grew up in Australia, I hope the thug never comes back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter which country the people on the human rights committee are from they are all jurists and international experts who should not be judged from the country of their births.</p>
<p>Every human rights group on the planet agree that Israel is a criminal state.</p>
<p>And Mark Regev grew up in Australia, I hope the thug never comes back.</p>
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		<title>By: has f</title>
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		<dc:creator>has f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
   so there left , centre, right, can someone just get THE TRUTH for heavens sake? is there any earnest effort to solve the real problems or are there spanners being thrown to blot out the much needed progress for peace in the middle east - who benefits here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
   so there left , centre, right, can someone just get THE TRUTH for heavens sake? is there any earnest effort to solve the real problems or are there spanners being thrown to blot out the much needed progress for peace in the middle east &#8211; who benefits here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, I believe wrote that Israel was cleared of war crimes was wrong and misleading.  The report he is referring to was an internal Israeli military report that it found no proof that it was policy of the government (which is a joke that has been shown to be a lie) but individual acts or mistakes.  We haven&#039;t heard that one before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, I believe wrote that Israel was cleared of war crimes was wrong and misleading.  The report he is referring to was an internal Israeli military report that it found no proof that it was policy of the government (which is a joke that has been shown to be a lie) but individual acts or mistakes.  We haven&#8217;t heard that one before.</p>
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		<title>By: nastrof</title>
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		<dc:creator>nastrof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the link to the UN statement on War Crimes in Gaza:

&quot;On Monday, he is to present his report formally to the Human Rights Council, a 47-member forum where Islamic and African countries backed by China, Cuba and Russia have a majority...&quot;

China, Russia and Cuba, eh? Not exactly setting the human rights bar very high, are we here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the link to the UN statement on War Crimes in Gaza:</p>
<p>&#8220;On Monday, he is to present his report formally to the Human Rights Council, a 47-member forum where Islamic and African countries backed by China, Cuba and Russia have a majority&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>China, Russia and Cuba, eh? Not exactly setting the human rights bar very high, are we here?</p>
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