Boehner: Obama Trying 9/11 Mastermind In Court To Appease Unnamed “Liberal Interest Groups”
John Boehner tweets a statement responding to the news that the Obama administration has decided to try Khalid Sheik Mohammed and co-conspirators in a New York court, rather than a military commission:
“The Obama Administration’s irresponsible decision to prosecute the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks in New York City puts the interests of liberal special interest groups before the safety and security of the American people. The possibility that Khalid Sheik Mohammed and his co-conspirators could be found ‘not guilty’ due to some legal technicality just blocks from Ground Zero should give every American pause.”
I asked Boehner spokesman Michael Steel for clarification, and Steel said that Boehner was referring to legal and activist groups that would support such a move. But he declined to name any.
The larger point is that Republicans are already seizing on the Obama administration’s decision to revive memories of 9/11 in order to give fresh urgency to GOP criticism of current terrorism policies. The amount of time that has passed since 9/11 had caused terrorism to fall dramatically on the list of voter concerns, making Republican criticism of the adminstration’s moves on terror seem almost like a sideshow and a distraction.
Republicans are now hoping that a showy trial of 9/11 conspirators in New York will change that, reinvigorating terror as a national issue.
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I guess we’re not all New Yorkers anymore.
Yes, that is the reason they are doing this. It has nothing to do with the fact that it is absolutely insane to try these mass-murderers in a civilian court before a jury instead of before a military tribunal. It is all about politics.
And the left actually wonders why the majority of Americans think the Democratic Party is an absolute joke when it comes to matters of national security.
Does Boehner ever think through his comments before opening his big mouth? The guy’s an idiot with a knee jerk reaction to everything who can’t even quote the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence accurately.
Once again, as the story actually unfolds, he will be proven for the fool he is. Anyone besides Tena see my post about the probability of untainted evidence in the NY anti-terrorism vault?
Joe,
Republicans would not object to this interpretation.
They would say, “Yes, absolutely, we do hope that this trial revives a national conversation about 9/11 and the administration’s current terror policies.”
“the majority of Americans think the Democratic Party is an absolute joke when it comes to matters of national security.”
That’s exactly the opposite of the polling these days. The majority overwhelmingly think the Democrats do a better job. Gee, I wonder why?
Let me count the ways:
“Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside US”
Iraq War – which pulled the resources away from going after bin Laden, and turned him into “Bin Forgotten” on the basis of a bunch of lies – Iraq was no threat to us; not to mention that the Bush Administration then:
Allowed bin Laden to get away when we had him pinned down;
Torture torture torture
ad nauseum
“Republicans would not object to this interpretation.”
Not only Republicans. Personally, I wouldn’t mind if folks were reminded what happened on 9/11. We DO need to remain vigilant and it would be harmful to national security if our government did not regard the threat of terrorism seriously.
It seems to me that GOP objections to the trials of Gitmo detainees happening within the U.S. ultimately reflect an extreme distrust for both our Constitution and our legal system. Until the Cheney/Bush administration, high profile criminal suspects were routinely tried within our nation’s borders and courts, yet our nation survived. The insistence of the GOP that our system is incapable of handling or even surviving such trials is evidence of their disdain for the most basic concepts on which our democracy was founded.
Those within the GOP are content to detain people without charges, without representation, and without trial, in perpetuity. There is no way to constitutionally square that circle.
The GOP’s real point of contention is with the Constitution itself. They oppose it.
I’m all for reminding America about 9-11. Let’s see nonstop loops of Condi Rice answering that question: “I believe it was titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside US”
Let’s keep that fresh. That and the Pet Goat sitting there blinking while people were jumping.
for Gasman: “President Obama acknowledged publicly for the first time yesterday that some detainees at Guantanamo Bay may have to be held without trial indefinitely.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052104045.html
“’m all for reminding America about 9-11. Let’s see nonstop loops of Condi Rice” blah blah blah
Typical knee-jerk reaction of tena. Instead of acknowledging the horrors visited on us by radical terrorists – she wants to blame … Condi.
Hurrah for America.
may have to be held without trial indefinitely.”
None of that would even be necessary, sbj, if Bush hadn’t s*c*r*e*w*e*d the pooch so thoroughly that he basically boxed in whoever became the next president.
Well jeez.
Maybe all horrible criminals that commit crimes against civilians should be locked up forever with no trial if they don’t have faith in our justice system.
I tell you what.
Republicans, for acting like such tough guys on national defense, sure act like a bunch of babies when it comes to trying terrorists in courts.
I bet the terrorists are ecstatic they’ve managed to terrify Americans so much they are afraid to try the captured terrorists on U.S. soil.
Grow a spine.
sbj,
You can bet that I and other liberals will object to any extension of the Bush administration’s miscarriage of justice by detaining people unjustly. This also bespeaks a lack of confidence in our judicial system. If these folks are really dangerous, charge them and try them. If not, let them go. Again, no way to constitutionally square this circle.
I’m sorry – but how the F is this a bad thing? If I lived in NYC during the attacks I’d sure want those ******** to be tried there!
What are we afraid of? Republicans are a bunch of ***** cowards.
“she wants to blame … Condi. ”
Hell yes. The administration was warned and ignored it.
If it had been a Democratic Administration, we would never hear the end of it.
The Bush Administration frakked up so badly with 9-11, that Cheney wouldn’t let Bush testify behind closed doors to Congress alone.
Say what you want – the terrorists are out to get us regardless and there’s no point in yelling about that – they just are. No, the fault lies very heavily on the Administration because Bush and Rice were very specifically warned and they ignored it.
And you know it.
Those terrified to try the captured terrorists on U.S. soil are allowing the terrorists to succeed in their goal, and that is to keep up terrorized.
I wish someone with a voice could articulate that.
“are allowing the terrorists to succeed in their goal, and that is to keep up terrorized.”
As if Bush and Cheney and the rest of the GOP spend 8 years doing the terrorists’ work for them.
Cheney and BabyDick still are.
“Say what you want – the terrorists are out to get us regardless and there’s no point in yelling about that – they just are.”
Gee, now you sound like one of those alleged crazy wingers – “They’re out to get us!”
LOL
But seriously, tena – there is, indeed, a purpose to “yelling” about the threat. Vigilance plays an important part in our security, while complacency can lead to disaster.
as if they didn’t spend 8 years doing their work.
“fear fear fear! You will all die if you do not keep us in office. Resistance is futile and if you elect the Democrats, you will DIE!”
So, our justice system is now a “liberal special interest group”?
At least Republicans are freely admitting they don’t believe the rule of law applies to them now. That’s progress…I guess.
“Vigilance plays an important part in our security, while complacency can lead to disaster.”
Dude, whose vigilance? If you are talking about yours and mine, that’s silly. If you mean the government, then what the hell makes you think they are complacent about terrorism?
Hell, you’re the one pointing out that Obama may be forced to just keep some of the inmates there in Gitmo. That hardly speaks to complacency.
Typical sbj, address the effects without ever talking about the causes of 9/11. The GOP would love America to have 9/12 on a groundhog day style loop so that no ever questions how afraid they are of terrorists and how weak they are when it comes to defending basic rights enshrined in the constitution 200 years ago.
At least bonner is consistently stupid as a barrel full of sand. What an idiot….
Good to know that fair trials are now a liberal special interest.
Also good that Boehner is now on the record against fair trials. According to him, fair trials should not be given to anyone unless they are guaranteed to be found guilty.
He hates us for our freedoms.
@sbj
“…while complacency can lead to disaster.”
Yeah, we know: ‘Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US’
“address the effects without ever talking about the causes of 9/11″
I think the cause of 9/11 is pretty damned clear to most people! – radical islamic suicidal maniacal terrorists. (Please don’t tell me that 9/11 was our fault because infidels used Saudi Arabia as a base to launch the first gulf war.)
“Dude, whose vigilance? If you are talking about yours and mine, that’s silly.”
You are quite a piece of work, tena. Of course personal vigilance can help avert disasters. Folks on 93 prevented perhaps many more deaths. In Spain and London and Indonesia and Israel and elsewhere all over the world people just like you can see something suspicious and help to stop it.
“He hates us for our freedoms.”
LOL! The entire GOP hates us for our freedoms.
They worked overtime the 8 years Bush was in office, trying to get rid of as many as possible.
We can’t make people like us sbj, but we should have been able to prevent those who don’t like us from initiating the most devestating attacks in our nation’s history from happening. Failure for bush, Cheney and Condi.
“Of course personal vigilance can help avert disasters. ”
Thanks for the personal insult to start with – when it comes to me, you guys just cannot resist getting personal with it. Whatever.
Yeah I’m always on the lookout for radical terrorists around Lakewood. God knows, I have to watch those convenience stores – the Muslims are using them to take the country over, one 7-11 at a time.
And I have my eye on the Ethiopian gentleman who runs my gas station.
But come to think of it, I’m especially vigilant around Taos cause I just know bin Laden is coming for the High Chihuahuan Desert and the 8 Northern Pueblos.
“I think the cause of 9/11 is pretty damned clear to most people! – radical islamic suicidal maniacal terrorists”
Yeah, they just picked a country on the globe and said ATTACK!
“Thanks for the personal insult to start with – when it comes to me, you guys just cannot resist getting personal with it. Whatever.”
Ohmigosh, tena. Get out of the kitchen! Your double standards are amazing. And you’re a fool to think that personal vigilance can’t help avert disaster. Your implication that I somehow encouraged racial stereotyping is very illuminating.
“Yeah, they just picked a country on the globe and said ATTACK!”
Yeah with no warning.
sbj, quit blathering.
As a New Yorker, I’m pissed as hell that George Bush let Osama bin laden get away.
I can’t wait to try KSM the way we put the Nazis on trial. He doesn’t DESERVE a military court. He is not a member of the US Armed Forces. He is not a POW. He is a lowlife criminal with delusions of grandeur who slaughters innocent people. A glorified cult leader.
Republicans who supported George “I honestly am not that concerned about bin Laden” Bush need to SHUT UP. Incompetent George and Dick let bin Laden get away. He is free.
Quit whining that we’re putting his henchmen on trial like the criminals they are instead of dropping them in a hole someplace like the banana republic that the United States of America is NOT.
Stupid banana Republicans.
sbj – you apparently don’t understand what terrorism is if you think individual vigilance is the answer.
But actually you just wanted to pull the conversation away from the utter failure of Bush and Rice to heed the very specific warning the government got about 9-11.
My neighbors and I can help avert a breakin around here, but when it comes to terrorism, maybe someone gets a lucky break and discovers something – people discovered **** about 9=11 all over the place before hand.
It didn’t help since Bush ignored the warnings you are so hot on.
“Personally, I wouldn’t mind if folks were reminded what happened on 9/11.”
If you lived in New York, you could go past where the WTC used to be like I just did this morning and you would remember. Or you could go on your roof and look at the downtown building that you couldn’t see from there on September 10, because the WTC used to be in front of it. You could look at the nat’l guards in fatigues with machine guns in the Port Authority, Penn Station, and Grand Central who weren’t there in 2000. Or you could go to the firehouse around the corner from me or the one next to my grocery store and see the bronze plaques with the names of the guys they lost on 9/11.
We. Never. Forgot.
Oh, wait, you meant I should start loving Republicans? Because that’s the lesson of 9/11? That worshipping the party which failed to keep us safe and failed to capture the guy who attacked us is “remembering” 9/11?
Personally, I wish George Bush had been reminded of what actually happened on 9/11. Maybe it would have reminded him to, uh CATCH THE GUY WHO DID IT! Instead of, I dunno, pulling people out of Afghanistan to go looking for nonexistent weapons of mass destruction in the desert?
Tena, this one is for you:
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/texas-republicans-really-dont-like-obamacare/
“Oh, wait, you meant I should start loving Republicans?”
Err?
No, here’s what I wrote: “Personally, I wouldn’t mind if folks were reminded what happened on 9/11. We DO need to remain vigilant and it would be harmful to national security if our government did not regard the threat of terrorism seriously.”
“Your implication that I somehow encouraged racial stereotyping is very illuminating.”
Why do you insist upon having absolutely NO sense of humor at all?
You are the wettest wet blanket ever.
Anonymous is 100% right. I saw the towers fall with my own eyes from the top of the building where I was staying. I was supposed to have dinner at Windows on the World with my family on Sept 24th.
Bush’s response to the 9/11 attacks was: lose Bin Laden, invade a country that did nothing to us, and hold the next GOP political convention in NYC.
The utter contempt the GOP has shown the victims of the attacks and the only civilian area targeted on that fateful day still burns.
“The utter contempt the GOP has shown the victims of the attacks and the only civilian area targeted on that fateful day still burns.”
And they kept on showing it – the Bush Administration wouldn’t let the EPA tell the truth about the air down there; right wing attack-shedog Ann Coulter going on and on and on about how unpatriotic the actual victims’ wives were for daring to complain about anything, and for asking for anything at all.
All the while, the GOP used 9-11 like the only hooker in an Arctic mining camp, to work up as much fear as possible for votes.
Despicable – every bit of it. From ignoring the warnings and the intel people with their hair on fire, through to Boehner’s boneheaded comment today – despicable!!!!!
“Why do you insist upon having absolutely NO sense of humor at all?”
Let’s see. I say you should be vigilant, and you respond by saying, “Okay, sure, I’ll keep an eye on the Ethiopian at the gas station.”
That’s funny?
Do we have so little confidence in the Constitution and justice system that we’re afraid to let the process run its course?
“That’s funny?”
Go ahead and take it literally. At face value. You always insist that satire is to be taken literally. Therefore you try to keep me from talking a certain way or making certain references – it’s verbal terrorism, dude.
Knock it off.
I’m betting the sole reason useless Condi Rice opted not to run for elected office after the Shrub admin ended was because SHE DIDN’T WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS SURROUNDING HER FAILURE TO STOP 9/11 WHEN SHE COULD HAVE.
She will NEVER be able to live that catastrophic failure down.
*ALWAYS* remember to remind everyone you know: 9/11 HAPPENED ON CHENEY/BUSH’S AND THE GOP’S WATCH — AND THEY HAD THE INTEL IN HAND WHICH COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT!
(Sorry for the all-caps, but these points really do need to be shouted, endlessly.)
“It’s verbal terrorism.”
Oh for cripe’s sakes – and you probably wouldn’t call Hasan a terrorist!
You were making a joke at my expense, tena. I’m not pissed – but I certainly am not going to find it funny.
Remember the first attack on the Twin Towers?
We tried the Blind Sheik, and others, behind that attack, in court, and put them away for good.
Republicans want us to abandon all our civilized behavior, and behave just like the terrorists do.
What the hell are the Republicans supposed to be defending, since they want us to throw out all our standards, as a civilized rule of law society.
When we act like the Republicans want us to, then we have already being defeated, because the terrorists have made us(Well, actually just the Right Wingers) abandon all that we have stood for.
Greg, we don’t really, realy care what the repugs say (or yammer) at this point. It’s all noise and distraction amounting to trolling.
The degree of misinformation and ignorance of liberals on this thread is shocking, but we know that’s par for the course. Just to take a couple of examples:
“because Bush and Rice were very specifically warned and they ignored it.”
Really? Warned how specifically? A bulletin that said AQ was intent on attacking the U.S. — that’s what you call specific warning? Apparently you are a closet Truther.
“As a New Yorker, I’m pissed as hell that George Bush let Osama bin laden get away.
I can’t wait to try KSM the way we put the Nazis on trial. He doesn’t DESERVE a military court. He is not a member of the US Armed Forces. He is not a POW. He is a lowlife criminal with delusions of grandeur who slaughters innocent people. A glorified cult leader.”
You, like your exalted leader Obama, are under the impression that the Nazis were tried at Nuremburg under the U.S. criminal justice system? And you think that is the appropriate result because a military tribunal is “too good” for KSM as opposed to trial in the domestic criminal justice system?
You could not possibly be more mixed up. Nuremburg was a . . . military tribunal, not a criminal justice court. Nuremburg happens to be in Germany? Obama is giving KSM a criminal trial because he doesn’t believe a military tribunal is good enough, not because it is “too good,” for this scum.
As for all of your cheerleading for bringing international terrorists into U.S. courts, you are grossly ignorant of the problems this is likely to create.
Again:
Remember the first attack on the Twin Towers?
We tried the Blind Sheik, and others, behind that attack, in court, and put them away for good.
Republicans want us to abandon all our civilized behavior, and behave just like the terrorists do.
What the hell are the Republicans supposed to be defending, since they want us to throw out all our standards, as a civilized rule of law society.
When we act like the Republicans want us to, then we have already being defeated, because the terrorists have made us(Well, actually just the Right Wingers) abandon all that we have stood for.
What interest groups is he talking about?
Oh, that’s right, he doesn’t know. He’s as dumb as this guy:
Oh for cripe’s sakes – and you probably wouldn’t call Hasan a terrorist!
Even the Army isn’t charging him with terrorism, dumbass.
Really? Warned how specifically? A bulletin that said AQ was intent on attacking the U.S. — that’s what you call specific warning
Wow, quarterbrain doesn’t even know what it said.
It’s not “misinformation” if it’s news to you, inbred.
Bush’s response to the 9/11 attacks was: lose Bin Laden, invade a country that did nothing to us, and hold the next GOP political convention in NYC.
Yep. 9/11 is the best thing that ever happened to the Republican party.
qb = quasi brain. What a fvcking idjit of a troll !
Really? Warned how specifically? A bulletin that said AQ was intent on attacking the U.S. — that’s what you call specific warning? Apparently you are a closet Truther.
Aug 6 Memo “Bin Laden determined to strike in US”
As for all of your cheerleading for bringing international terrorists into U.S. courts, you are grossly ignorant of the problems this is likely to create.
Like what? Please thrill me with your vast knowledge of such matters.
He’s never read it, autech. He probably never will.
“I have never disputed the constitutional authority of the President to convene Article III courts in cases of international terrorism. However, I remain very concerned about the wisdom of doing so. Those who have committed acts of international terrorism are enemy combatants, just as certainly as the Japanese pilots who killed thousands of Americans at Pearl Harbor. It will be disruptive, costly, and potentially counterproductive to try them as criminals in our civilian courts.
“…They do not belong in our country, they do not belong in our courts, and they do not belong in our prisons.”
Quick – who said this?
Quick – who said this?
Jim Webb. You want a lollipop now?
Jim Webb. You want a lollipop now?
Change his diaper, first.
“You want a lollipop now?”
Well…sure?
““Bin Laden determined to strike in US””
Thanks for quoting what we all know. Now, kindly point out where Bush and Condi were “very specifically warned” about 9/11?
No, I won’t be waiting, since you have no support for that ridiculous Truther allegation.
Thanks for quoting what we all know.
See? I told you he wouldn’t read it.
He still doesn’t know.
More than eight years later.
So sad.
“Like what? Please thrill me with your vast knowledge of such matters.”
Likely exposure of national security intelligence information. In many cases exclusion of evidence that wasn’t obtained through a sterile Miranda process. Trials turned into jihadist propoganda carnivals. Just a few little details like that.
Andy McCarthy, someone who has actually prosecuted terrorists, has done a lot of insightful writing about it, and done some interesting interviews. You might want to do some googling and acquaint yourself.
Just a few little details like that.
Where “details” = “the paranoia of yet another whiny righty.”
Pathetic.
“See? I told you he wouldn’t read it.
He still doesn’t know.
More than eight years later.
So sad.”
Pretending it says something it doesn’t just makss you look like a fool.
Pretending it says something it doesn’t just makss you look like a fool.
I told you he wouldn’t read it.
Too scared.
Dumbass apparently thinks that the title is all there is to it.
Not that anyone here is surprised.
I can picture dumbass googling now.
OK, dumbass tries again … with correct spelling this time.
He’s reading, now.
You can tell because his lips are moving.
Dumbass realizes he’s reading about pdf’s, not pdb’s.
I’m waiting. Please produce the part that warns about 9/11. I read it way back in the beginning. You obviously didn’t, genius Truther.
He googles again.
I read it way back in the beginning.
Obviously not. You only commented on the title because that’s all you know.
Keep looking.
“OK, dumbass tries again … with correct spelling this time.”
Heh, that’s funny — you probably shouldn’t make typo/grammar errors like that while calling someone a dumbass.
Okay, JM,
Now everyone knows you are just a clown. The briefing contains no specific warning. If you have ever read it, you know it just like everyone else who has.
So, you’re just a liar either way.
Now everyone knows you are just a clown. The briefing contains no specific warning.
Told you he wouldn’t read it.
Heh, that’s funny — you probably shouldn’t make typo/grammar errors like that while calling someone a dumbass
You probably shouldn’t try to correct things you don’t understand. Neologisms aren’t the same thing as typos.
JM, notice you’re talking to yourself? Pretty sad, spending Friday pm telling silly lies to yourself.
Total specific warnings in the pdb in question: 8.
Number dumbass has found: 0.
JM, notice you’re talking to yourself?
No, I’m talk to you: the coward who won’t go look.
“You probably shouldn’t try to correct things you don’t understand. Neologisms aren’t the same thing as typos.”
Total genius on your part, redefining your goofs as originality. You probably shouldn’t try to give excuses that don’t even explain the goofs, though.
Can’t QB even count the number of people in a conversation … that he’s a part of?
Total genius on your part, redefining your goofs as originality.
Who said I originated it? I’m just literate.
And you’re still a coward, since you’re changing the subject.
Here you go, coward. I’ll even give you a link this time:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
“Total specific warnings in the pdb in question: 8.
Number dumbass has found: 0.”
LOL, and which one says planes are heading for the targets on 9/11? Or any other specifics of 9/11? None.
Quick try to find something in there to save face. But you won’t. Because you are a clown defending a lie.
Or any other specifics of 9/11? None.
Eight.
Eight things you don’t have the guts to face.
No wonder you’re a Republican. You’re weak.
Have fun frothing at the bottom of this thread, troll. Everyone can see what a coward you are.
Maybe you could email Sargent and beg him to take it down?
LOL!
“Here you go, coward. I’ll even give you a link this time:”
No need for a link, clown. I’ve read it before. There is no specific warning of 9/11.
In fact, just think of how retarded your position is: Supposedly the POTUS was given a PDB “very specifically warning” of 9/11. And HE supposedly did nothing about it.
Now, ask yourself, clown, how it is that the intelligence and law enforcement agencies who must have had this information to write such a warning did nothing about it. Because they were waiting for an order from POTUS?
Congrats on this genius theory of culpability, idiot Truther.
“Eight things you don’t have the guts to face.
No wonder you’re a Republican. You’re weak.”
Eight things that don’t “very specifically warn” about 9/11. Thanks for posting the link proving your idiocy, though.
“Likely exposure of national security intelligence information.”
Ya mean like the kind of intel exposure Pete Hoekestra does every morning before breakfast?
The Republican Party damages the U.S.A. on a daily basis.
Who knew republicans had such little faith in our justice system? Why are they such bedwetters?
There sure was a lot of back and forth here on this issue. I thought Boehner was an idiot for turning this into another Hate Fest on Obama and his policies. These guys will be tried and fried in the City they attacked, should make most New Yorkers happy I would think.
Do we have so little faith in our Judicial System that anyone actually thinks these guys will get away with something? Holder already as much as said he has untainted evidence, which I also read from other sources this morning.
But hey if Obama’s doing it, it must be the wrong thing to do right? What a bunch of idiots. Let’s get on with it and put it behind us, it’s already been 8 years of Limbo. This should not be a partisan issue.
“What a bunch of idiots”
There goes Imsinca, who demands civility and deplores name calling.
“This should not be a partisan issue.”
Meaningless babble. Everything is a partisan issue to you. And Obama and Democrats made it partisan from the start. Since your memory is always selective, you probably don’t recall. But go back to the campaign and before and review Obama and other Dems ripping Bush for “shredding” the Constitution and “making us less safe” by not trying international terrorists and armed combatants in civilian courts.
Conservatives have been critical of treating global terror as a law enforcement matter “forever,” not starting today. Remember, that is part of what the debate has always been about?
“Do we have so little faith in our Judicial System that anyone actually thinks these guys will get away with something?”
It isn’t a matter of faith in the judicial system. It is that the civilian justice system is not suited to this task.
The justice system does fail a lot, even in ordinary criminal cases. A few terrorists involved in the WTC bombing were convicted. Others escaped justice and went on to terrorize for years afterward.
I should have said it is a matter of whether it is suited. There is a good argument against it.
I like name calling a lot better now than I used to. And if we’ve been having the same debate for years by all means let’s just keep having it and never get anything done.
We’ve tried terrorists before, domestic and otherwise, I see no reason not to just accept Holder’s decision and get the hell on with it.
Obama won so it’s his turn to decide, and really just every now and then it would be refreshing to see some conservative come out in favor of something, you know, just for a change.
So right winger “quarterback”, whose BFF is an anti-American thug who wants cut America into little pieces, now has no respect for America’s Justice System.
Though I’ll concede there are times when the Justice System has failed.
For instance, Republican war criminals Bush, Cheney, Addington, Feith, and Yoo should be in Guantanamo prison for the sadistic Communist Chinese torture programs they authorized, not to mention the war they lied US into and their illegal spying on Americans.
Isn’t it ironic that what scares right wingers more than an ineffective Justice System is an effective Justice System?
There’s a large segment of the poulsce that thinks action and purity of feeling are intrinsically superior to the rule of law, tainted as the latter is by faggity intellect. This is not exclusively a right-wing phenomenon, though it’s worst left-wing manifestation was during the ’60s, when large numbers of young men who might have otherwise have been Right were temporarily Left because of the draft, and because it improved their chances of getting high and/or laid. (A Dr Paglia has a soft spot for the teabaggers and town hollerers because of her hagiography of the most irritating and anti-Enlightenment aspects of those times.)
Be that as it may: right now the mood against all Rules is strongest amongst those on the Right. Unfortunately, as liberating as the attitude is for an individual, when applied to Government, whose essential currency is the use of force, antinomianism is a recipe for tyranny. Many of the same people who fear Gummint’s increased presence in health insurance as one step removed from death-camps have no problem with giving it the right to kill or torture. I think this attitude stems from the belief that they will never be on the receiving end of these procedures because they are Good Merkins…this would be touching in its naïveté if it weren’t so damn _dangerous_.
For ‘poulse’ please read ‘populace’; you’d think that a spell-checker in this handheld that frequently makes me see sub-literate by chaning valid “its”s to “it’s”s would catch that—but this is a transparent way of diverting attention to mine own inattention.
This, of course, is Bush’s greatest achievement, He’s turned a sizeable portion of the American people into ignorant, fear-crazed bigots like boehner.
Boehner now considers the framers of the US Constitution to be a “liberal interest group!” Funny, but I thought that our elected officials took an oath to DEFEND the Constitution. Looks like the terrorists have won. 49% of the country is ready to scrap the whole Constitution because they are AFRAID!!!
Please, God, help us be saved from this very evil man, Obama and the men he has given power to. We still suffer from 9/11; George Bush and Dick Cheney understand, this pompous, inexperienced administration is wasting our time – with 2,000 page Health Care Reform to his ridiculous trips around the world. Please help me save my children from this tragedy.
Weren’t these terrorists captured in a war zone? What does a civilian court have to do with this anyway? 9/11 was an act of war. New York City became a war zone under attack. I don’t understand anything this administration does and I’m just praying that we make it through the next few years without distroying our Country..without another attack. They (the Administration) are a bunch of political whimps with their own agendas. No concern for safety and security of the USA.
Gerald Fnotd – Please write in plain English. I enjoy reading comments and understanding the views of others…. but it has to at least make sense.