GOP Rep Who Suggested D.C. Metro Hurt 9/12 Turnout Voted Against Metro Funding
No end to the tea party hilarity…
You may have heard that GOP Rep. Kevin Brady, staunch tea partier, is protesting that the taxpayer-funded D.C. Metro didn’t adequately prepare for the anti-government 9/12 rally. He’s even suggesting Metro’s failure to transport tea partiers may have hurt turnout.
A Democrat, however, points out to me that Brady voted against Federal funding for the very same Metro he’s blaming for offering the tea partiers substandard service.
Soon after the 9/12 march, Brady released a letter he sent to D.C. Metro griping that it had failed to transport tea partiers to the protest. Brady said they “were frustrated and disappointed that our nation’s capitol” failed to “provide a basic level of transit for them.”
Brady’s office complained about a train shortage. “METRO did not prepare for Tea Party March!” he tweeted. “People couldn’t get on, missed start of march. I will demand answers.”
But earlier this year, Brady voted against the stimulus package. It provided millions upon millions of dollars for all manner of improvements to … the D.C. Metro.
Every House GOPer, of course, voted against the stimulus. Still, it’s a real head-spinner to bash a government-run system for failing to adequately serve an enormous anti-government protest after opposing government funding for it. Low hanging fruit, perhaps, but worth a quick laugh on a gray D.C. day…
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Do you have any updates on when MA will pass the new law to appoint a placeholder senator? Thanks.
I’d say that one was perfectly ripe for the pickin’!
“A Democrat, however, points out to me that Brady voted against Federal funding for the very same Metro he’s blaming for offering the tea partiers substandard service.”
And we’re the ones who don’t get irony.
[rollseyesallthewayaround]
Greg, THANK YOU for posting this. The irony is unreal. How dare she even think of riding the socialist communist government-run Metro. ARRRRRGH TEH STUPID!
The irony will be the faux news, glenda & insanity will cite it as an example of another gobinment run entity failing and their halfwit base will bobble their heads sagely.
Yo, qb, how do you like them ironic apples?
The hypocrisy is comical, but also stunning when you add it all up. Metro, Czars, deficit spending, medicare bashing, medicare fear mongering, no to stimulus but we’ll take the money thank-you very much, bi-partisanship just say no, Wilson breached protocol but he’s our hero, etc. etc. etc.
@greg: why is today a gray day?
Lola
All I’ve seen is the article in the Boston paper yesterday. Did you see that or do you need the link?
OT: Billo supports the public option
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/17/783109/-OReilly-backs-government-health-insurance-option
O’REILLY: But you know, I want that, Ms. Owcharenko. I want that. I want, not for personally for me, but for working Americans, to have a option, that if they don’t like their health insurance, if it’s too expensive, they can’t afford it, if the government can cobble together a cheaper insurance policy that gives the same benefits, I see that as a plus for the folks.
I don’t know about DC, but in Taos it’s grey again and cold.
Did O’Lielly get a head wound or something?
I dunno, but it’s cognitive dissonance all around.
“I dunno, but it’s cognitive dissonance all around.”
Yeah, I see that.
What’s more destructive of your day-to-day sanity: Bill-o supporting a public option or Baucus taking two months to write a bill that nobody wants to vote for?
Tough call.
O’Reilly – oh, really ? Left is in desperation clinging to the proverbial straw. His opening assertion was PO was dead.
“Tough call.”
Not for me – I’m voting for the Right flipping out over “czars.”
In a very crowded field perhaps Brady can claim Liam’s Cognitive Dissonance Thursday award.
The Repubs are simply amazing! After literally proposing or voting for end of life counseling at earlier times…Palin, Grassley, and Gingrich suddenly found the EXACT thing they had advocated to be “death panels” or “pulling the plug on grandma”
Now they’ve decided to go Czar crazy…yes that name Czar appeals to the uneducated morons who watch Fox and vote Repub but REALLY what the hell are they talking about. After proposing and supporting Czars..folks like Lamar Alexander are now angry with them. I would ask for somebody to supply a link or info providing the number of Czars in each administration since the term was first coined during the Nixon Administration..but that’s just it…there are NO CZARS. It’s a made up term by the media to simplify a long government title.
And so specifically what are Alexander, Hutchison and the rest suggesting…that the Obama Administration has an inflated number of senior advisors…OK bring on the comparisons…but please Repubs…stop with the childlike BS aimed at the mental midgets who are birthers, teabaggers etc.
I swear…at some point you are going to look in the dictionary and find a synonym for Hypocrite…Republican
Which also qualifies as Irony.
I do not think the word means what quarterback thinks it means.
>@greg: why is today a gray day?
It’s a wonderfully grey and overcast day in D.C.
Greg, what was the issue with the website on Tuesday? I couldn’t get to your website all that day but didn’t see any mention of server problem?
Tom – a number of us had that problem.
People with twisted panties can’t think straight, let alone get their stories straight. Kevin Brady and his ilk need to change clothes! -Kevo
Mental midgets Feingold, Feinstein, and Byrd have all referred to “czars.”
quarterback is stuck in the huddle, figuring out his next play.
O’reilly says PO is dead, so now it’s safe to say it’s maybe a decent idea. Also, he goes further, which I like, to say if you can’t afford or don’t like your current insurance, you can partake in the PO.
Yup. That sounds like a plan.
There is only one way to find out if a Public Option will work. That is by trying it. Those who say it will not work, have no data or evidence, to prove their claims, since it has never been tried on a national scale.
One thing we do know is that the Private Options have failed, yet those who are opposed to the Public Option, are not calling for ending those failed Private Options.
There is another fine example of Right Wing Cognitive Dissonance.
sbj – I don’t know that I’d call them mental midgets, but in fact I think Feingold and Feinstein making common cause a tad weird, but I think they’re both a tad weird, personally.
I’m not a fan of any of those Democrats.
Shorter sbj: na na na boo boo.
>>>I do not think the word means what quarterback thinks it means.<<<
Inconceivable.
Tom, many apologies for the troubles. Yes, server problems — we tried to keep folks updated throughout the day — though I didn’t have the technical expertise to do an adequate job of that. Should be all sorted out now…
Greg – like I already told you, you couldn’t have been more concerned and that beats getting told to go to hell when you have problems – all to hell.
I meant it when I told you Atrios used to tell us to go to hell when we had problems – especially if we were on a .mac.
That drove him wild.
Wonder where quarterback and the rest of the trolls are?
LOL!
“There is only one way to find out if a Public Option will work. That is by trying it.”
Why not try it the same way Obama proposes trying tort reform?
Hey Kathleen: Someone said, “Please Repubs…stop with the childlike BS aimed at the mental midgets who are birthers, teabaggers etc.”
I made a fair comment, short and sweet, and rather neatly skewered that point.
Better yet, why don’t we just drop the whole idea of “tort reform” since nothing needs reformed except the medical profession which is very aware of how many Americans doctors kill every year.
@tena: Wonder why you support Obama when you disagree with him about illegal aliens h/c, tort reform, “czars.” Lesser of two evils, I guess?
Cue “perfect being enemy of the good” in 3, 2, 1…
Nope – you just don’t listen.
I never said I expected to totally agree with any president or any politician.
I don’t disagree with Obama on everything by any means and 3/4s of what you mentioned is not Obama’s idea anyway – it’s the Bipartisan effort. And you know it.
OT
Here’s the Times article on Glenn Beck. It’s a bit long winded but interesting reading for both sides and the middle. What they don’t address is fanning the flames of fear into a hatred of Obama or the real power that citizens have to change government, our vote.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348-4,00.html
AN 800+ billion dollar bill – and you single this guy out?
Next a story on Rangel’s tax cheating, perhaps Murtha? More closet republican homosexuals?
Congress is full of cheats, liars & corruption.
Tort reform? I think if the legal profession can reform the health system, then perhaps the medical profession can reform the legal system. It certainly needs it.
@SBJ…perhaps you did understand my post…I realize Feinstein and Democrats have used the “TERM” Czar…I think we can all agree that virtually everyone has used the term since it was first coined back in the Nixon Administration. My point is that nobody became upset with it or tried to use it on the Faux News “mental midgets” until Kay Bailey Hutchison, Lamar Alexander..Glen Beck and others tried to make it a perjerative term.
See if I can make it completely clear for you SBJ
In the Beck/Alexander/Hutchison world..
Czar=Russian=Communist=Socialist=Obama
See folks we told you all along Obama is a socialist.
The simple minds that view Fox swallow this BS and it’s really pathetic.
If the Repubs really have a problem with the number of Senior Advisors (some of whom need Senate confirmation) then fine address the problem in a rational(is rational and Republican now an oxymoron) manner and point out the ridiculous spending or how many more senior advisors…there are NO CZARS IT’S A MADE UP WORD..the Obama Administration has compared to the other administrations.
I have no problem with the right debating rational points like the cost of health care, or the deficit…but death panels..rationing..killing granny…and now this whole plate of dooty about the stars just reveals the Repubs to be completely devoid of any REAL substantive talking points. It’s all smoke a mirrors for the birthers/teabaggers/Fox viewers.
Huh? Obama agreed that issues with medical malpractice laws lead some doctors to practice unnecessary defensive medicine, no?
Are you saying that Obama “really” wants illegal aliens to be able to access public funds to purchase insurance but that he now supports a provision to exclude this merely in the interests of bipartisanship?
Why is it that Obama attracts so much nod nod wink wink support?
And Obama said nothing about actual tort reform, no? He said that doctors shouldn’t be in that position but that we should concentrate on making sure that they aren’t and that nothing comes between them and their patients. I do not recall Obama saying one thing about actual caps.
Are you going to deny that tort reform is a GOP issue? ARe you? They tried this during Bush’s administration and I think Frist and Santorum led the charge.
Dude, you can stop trying to make me dislike my president. It’s not going to happen.
Here’s a story from 1973 about William Simon, Nixon’s “energy czar”, the first such “czar” I can remember (I was 13 at the time).
I believe, oddjob, that Bush had something like 3 dozen de facto czars.
sbj, why do you and the Republican Party support private funding of abortions?
@ethan: Abortions?
I’m not following you…
Answer the question.
sbj, you call that neatly skewering I call that a swing and a miss…and also narcissism, because you are always praising your own posts. Laughing at your own jokes. are you sure you’re not Michael Steele? After all, you are a paid “professional.”
@tena: “Now, finally, many in this chamber — particularly on the Republican side of the aisle — have long insisted that reforming our medical malpractice laws can help bring down the cost of health care. (Applause.) Now — there you go. There you go. Now, I don’t believe malpractice reform is a silver bullet, but I’ve talked to enough doctors to know that defensive medicine may be contributing to unnecessary costs. (Applause.) So I’m proposing that we move forward on a range of ideas about how to put patient safety first and let doctors focus on practicing medicine. (Applause.) I know that the Bush administration considered authorizing demonstration projects in individual states to test these ideas. I think it’s a good idea, and I’m directing my Secretary of Health and Human Services to move forward on this initiative today.”
“Under the concept as proposed by the Bush administration, Rohack said federal grants could be given to states to set up specialized “health courts.”
“are you sure you’re not Michael Steele? After all, you are a paid “professional.””
God, you’re good, Kathleen. I wish I was as sharp as you are.
@kathleen: “You are always praising your own posts.”
Nice exaggeration.
“aisle — have long insisted that reforming our medical malpractice laws can help bring down the cost of health care. (Applause.) Now — there you go. There you go. Now, I don’t believe malpractice reform is a silver bullet, but I’ve talked to enough doctors to know that defensive medicine may be contributing to unnecessary costs. (Applause.) So I’m proposing that we move forward on a range of ideas about how to put patient safety first and let doctors focus on practicing medicine.”
Um, that’s basically what I said he said – where do you see caps? Where do you see him calling clearly for caps on medical malpractice?
Tena, good thing Bilgey’s not lurking, it frosts him that we backslap.
SBJ, when you’re not praising mine.
“sbj, why do you and the Republican Party support private funding of abortions?”
I think the question about the legality of abortion should be left entirely up to women. I think that if men could get pregnant then there would be no question whatsoever that abortion should be legal and widely available. I believe that a private insurer should be allowed to provide a legal procedure.
I’m honestly not following you…
He authorized Sebelius to move forward on demonstration projects.
You must be reading “demonstration projects” to say “we’re capping the hell out of medical malpractice awards.”
I don’t read it that way.
@tena: I love the way you omitted the part where Obama said, “I know that the Bush administration considered authorizing demonstration projects in individual states to test these ideas. I think it’s a good idea.” And you fail to acknowledge that the Bush concept would set up specialized “health courts.” Unless you are incredibly naive, you’ve got to realize that such courts would inevitably lead to de facto caps.
Kathleen – my fave from bilge and yippie, his sock puppet, is when they tell us to leave.
LOL!!!
sbj – disingenuous doesn’t begin to touch it -
what part of “demonstration” do you not get?
Hospitals and Doctors can solve the malpractice problem, if they police their own bad apples, and allow people to look up the records of all, before going to them for treatment. As long as the medical field insists on covering up, and settling with records sealed from the public, then they are the problem, and not the solution.
I saw a TV report fairly recently, where one hospital group decided to go the open route and admit when they made a mistake. They now work with the patients who have been harmed by medical errors, and make reasonable settlement offers..
It has worked like a charm. They found that patients are more willing to settle for less, when the hospitals are willing to be honest with them, and stop giving them the stonewall treatment.
They also discovered that it has allowed their medical staffs to be more forthcoming, and report when something has gone wrong. The patients get treated promptly, instead of being treated to a coverup, and the staff now compares notes, openly ,so that mistakes are learned from, and prevented from happening again.
It was a report on an organization with 25 hospitals, and for their next quarter, they have been able to reduce their malpractice contingency fund set aside, from 72 millions, to 13 millions, and they have seen the number of malpractice incidents drop from over 200 the previous year to just one third of that the following year.
That is how medical malpractice should be handled, instead of trying to make the hospitals and doctors unaccountable with so called tort reform.
Liam – exactly.
It’s a funny thing to me – doctors cover for each other like cops do. Lawyers honestly don’t do that. I have dear friend making billions suing lawyers for malpractice and my attitude has always been that anyone who is actually guilty of malpractice needs to be outed and dealt with. I don’t want a bunch of lawyers running around covering for other lawyers who screw up – and by and large, they don’t, unless they work together.
@tena: You’ve completely lost me!
1. I suggest trying public option the same way Obama suggested trying tort reform – through demo projects.
2. You said tort reform was unnecessary.
3. I asked why you disagree with the President so much.
4. You said that Obama said nothing about tort reform.
5. I point out that Obama called Bush’s proposal a good idea – Bush’s proposal was a pilot program, to fund special health courts, i.e., tort reform.
6. You write that I said Obama supported malpractice damage caps. Which I have NOT written. However, I explain to you that special health courts will inevitably lead to de facto caps.
7. You ask me what part of demonstration I do not understand.
8. I ask you, “WTF?”
“5. I point out that Obama called Bush’s proposal a good idea – Bush’s proposal was a pilot program, to fund special health courts, i.e., tort reform.”
That’s purely your “i.e. tort reform”.
You don’t get it cause you’re frelling dense.
@rukidding: “Nobody became upset with it or tried to use it on the Faux News “mental midgets” until Kay Bailey Hutchison, Lamar Alexander..Glen Beck and others tried to make it a perjerative term.”
Simply not true. Fox News (and the AP) were hyping Byrd’s opposition to Obama’s czars way back in February, 2009.
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2009Feb25/0,4670,ByrdObama,00.html
sbj:
I think the question about the legality of abortion should be left entirely up to women. I think that if men could get pregnant then there would be no question whatsoever that abortion should be legal and widely available.
I wonder why you think this, esepcially in light of the most recent gallup poll showing that more women are pro-life than are pro-choice.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx
What I find so interesting about this tort reform idea is people are out there fighting to limit their ability to regain costs they might incur due to medical malpractice.
In other words, they want Govn’t intrusion to limit their ability to fully reimburse themselves when a doctor gets careless.
Anyone ever think that maybe the severity of the penalty of a mistake is a deterrent?
why can’t i post?
sbj links to one 10 line article and calls it hyping a topic.
sbj, that compared to every program on Fox bringing it up doesn’t compare. Completely false equivalence.
Liberals are pro life. The Christo Fascists are pro birth, for poor women, and they do give a rat’s arse about those women, after they have given birth, and they sure as hell do not care about providing good schools and medical care for all those poor women, and their new babies.
The daughters, wives, and mistresses of the rich and powerful, will always have access to the morning after pill, and abortions, in Posh Swiss Clinics. So, the Pro Birthers, are actually waging a class war against poor women.
Liberals are pro life. The Christo Fascists are pro birth, for poor women, and they do not give a rat’s arse about those women, after they have given birth, and they sure as hell do not care about providing good schools and medical care for all those poor women, and their new babies.
The daughters, wives, and mistresses of the rich and powerful, will always have access to the morning after pill, and abortions, in Posh Swiss Clinics. So, the Pro Birthers, are actually waging a class war against poor women.
Here’s to Texas! No. 1 in % of uninsured! 26% = 1 in 4 people. Think about that.
Read a damning and sad article in a recent Texas Observer: http://www.texasobserver.org/features/sick-tired and http://www.texasobserver.org/editorial/flipping-the-health-care-script
Also the Dallas Morning News reported that health care premiums rose 131% in 10 years.
“In other words, they want Govn’t intrusion to limit their ability to fully reimburse themselves when a doctor gets careless.”
What really gets me about this is that it would make Doctors a special class in this country who merit a level of government protection for responsibility for their mistakes that no one other class outside of government gets. And actually government is not totally immune to suit –
Someone explain to me why doctors get to be a “special class”?
I don’t think Brady is complaining that the metro wasn’t prepared for the hugest crowds ever assembled, but using it as an example of the excesses of Big Government. For instance, if Big Government can’t even make a train run efficiently how can it possibly provide health care to 300 million people, or at least something along those lines. Sure he wanted his constituents to have a lift to the rally but it’s more about highlighting government’s inadequacies than anything else.
I’d also note that event organizers are the ones who are supposed to make the arrangements for extra trains, cars, etc on Metro. And they’re supposed to pay for it.
So perhaps Congressman Brady should have a chat with FreedomWorks on why it underestimated its crowds and didn’t give Metro the money to accommodate its protesters.
What’s up Plum Line? You delete my substantive post but “why can’t i post?” makes it? Wtf?
Sigh. I will defend sbj before Scott C: saying that abortion should be left entirely up to women (a pro-choice position) bears no relation to how many women are or are not pro-choice.
@mike: Hardly. The specific claim was that no one was hyping this to the dimwits who watch FNC until the most recent outbursts. That’s not true. This made the news back when Byrd raised the issue months ago.
In fact, here’s a snapshhot of Memeorandum from back then:
http://www.memeorandum.com/090225/p70#a090225p70
Think Progress was debunking the FNC attacks back in July. Huckabee was talking about it in July. Fox News again used Byrd to hype the czar issue in March 2009. Brian Wilson was hyping Byrd back in April, 2009.
ChuckinDenton – if I’m not mistaken, we’re no. 1 in dropout rates too.
Don’t Mess with Texas – stupid might be catching.
I swear I don’t want to go back to Dallas this year – something tells me I’m going to get shot at for the stickers on my car…
Metro systems across the country run light weekend schedules. Since most people do not go their places of work on Saturday, it would be foolish to run trains on a work day schedule. Apparently this Brady Moron does not comprehend that simple reality.
The Metro was being run efficiently on a Saturday, non workday, schedule, so there is another classic case of Right Wing Economics Cognitive Dissonance.
They are now actually complaining that Metro does not run a heavy trains schedule on days when most riders stay at home.
If the Teabaggers wanted to have extra trains run, then they should have requested it in advance, but of course that shower of moronic imbeciles could not pour piss out of a boot, even if you printed the instructions on the bottom of the heel.
Let’s see if it works this time…
>>>I think the question about the legality of abortion should be left entirely up to women.<<<
So you approve of Federal funding for abortion then, right?
For the poor I am not opposed. I’m like Hillary, I suppose. I’d like to see the number of abortions be reduced. I’m not too keen on PP turning a profit on the business but … what are you gonna do?
The Christo Fascists are pro birth, for poor women, and they do give a rat’s arse about those women, after they have given birth, and they sure as hell do not care about providing good schools and medical care for all those poor women, and their new babies.
That’s because life begins at conception and ends at birth.
@SBJ….sorry but that’s not nearly good enough. One Senator sending a letter of warning his hardly comparable to a full scale PR push by Fox/Alexander/Bailey and the rest of the Republican party.
Since you also referenced AP I’ll accept your statement about Byrd’s letter as truth. But please never reference Fox on anything. I live in Florida and in 2003 Fox was the network that literally sued and won the right to lie and distort. You can simply google Fox sues for the right to lie and find plenty of links to the story which goes like this..
“During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves.FOX ATTORNEYS DID NOT DISPUTE AKRE’S CLAIM THAT THEY PRESSURED HER TO BROADCAST A FALSE STORY, THEY SIMPLY MAINTAINED IT WAS THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO!!!!
As a former broadcast journalist Fox simply makes me want to puke…not for Beck, Hannity, and O’Reilly…those are opinion shows…but for bimbos like Gretchen Carlson and others who present themselves as being factually correct journalists. They have on occasion…including the one I just documented literally been paid to lie!!!. They have distorted and lied within their so called “news segments” more times than I can catalogue in a post.
Yes fair and balanced Fox News…the network that literally sued for the right to lie and distort. They have ZERO CREDIBILITY!!!
@rukidding: Your earlier point was that FNC did not hype the whole czars thing until Alexander/Bailey and the rest most recently. That is not true. FNC started hyping this back in February based on Byrd’s comments.
Ethan – no one is deleting posts – they come and go by magic.
Seriously – they’re working on it. You’re ok – keep loading the page and eventually your post will appear. And then it will disappear again.
Let me get this straight, Rep. Brady was complaining that the lunatic mob going to the teabagger rally wasn’t well by public transportation? Wouldn’t that be SOCIALIZED TRANSPORTATION!?!? Brady is a closet socialist!
He’s probably a communist, fascist, and Kenyan as well. Has anyone actually seen his birth certificate?
@SBJ….OK I have to concede your point about the Dems now joining in Czar Wars.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27265.html
Apparently there are those Senators whose joints are out of whack about what they perceive as their advise and consent role….nothing like a good old fashioned turf battle.
While I do believe Beck and Fox are certainly playing up the term CZAR for effect I must concede your point about the Dems getting in on the action.
If it was a debate…score one for you.
@rukidding: I appreciate your response, feel that the score is nil all, and that we aren’t in competition. I would like to see the admin respond to Feingold’s letter and the specifics. I’m not hyped up at all about the “czars” in general – but I hope there aren’t too many more like Van Jones.
sbj,
FauxNews also is vying for the Orwellian title of “Latter Day Ministry of Truth.” They regularly edit the transcripts of their broadcasts to expunge embarrassing errors or even embarrassing truths. They are nothing more than a party organ of the Republicans. Exactly which organ they are is still unclear.
Murdoch’s lying posse of hyperventilating shills have zero credibility. They are race baiting, fear mongers who are pathologically incapable of telling the truth. Only members of the sheeple flock or willing mendicants would quote FauxNews.
Kathleen:
saying that abortion should be left entirely up to women (a pro-choice position) bears no relation to how many women are or are not pro-choice.
True, but (sigh) connecting the ability to get pregnant with an inclination approve of the legality and availability of abortion, as sbj did, obviously does.
Well, if they would ever ask the question correctly – If they would ever ask whether or not one believes that a woman has the same right to privacy in her body as a man, we might get more correct answers.
It’s the ironically named “pro-life” movement that made the whole damn thing about dead babies. And we just keep letting them.
Are you really talking abortion on this thread???
As far as Metro riders go, I was there on Jan. 20, and <a href="http://www.thefoldblog.com/2009/09/complaints-about-dc-metro-system.htmlthis is what millions of people riding the Metro in DC looks like.
Oooops
Here it is.
@SBJ & Q.B…..While I certainly don’t agree with many of your opinions I believe your are making an HONEST attempt to state your positions with rational points excluding the **** like death panels etc.
Again as a former broadcast journalist who used to be liberterian…what I believed was pragmatic..and now confess to being progressive I’m curious about how much credence you give Fox News.
While I obviously enjoy Keith/Rachel/Ed etc on MSNBC I truly believe that MSNBC makes an effort to remain journalistically accurate during the NEWS portions of their programming. With the exception of Lou Dobbs I also believe CNN tries to stay objective…their pandering comes more in the form of obsessing over Michael Jackson or the latest sensational kidnapping/murder whatever story…but I don’t believe they literally lie.
Does it not trouble you on the right that Fox News has sued for the right to lie and admitted in court that they did pressure a reporter to lie and that was their First Amendment right? I”m not asking if you believe it’s their right or not…I’m asking if intelligent people can REALLY watch such unadulterated drivel and ADMITTED lying?
Chris the fold – ooo you lucky thing! I really wanted to go, thought I was for about 4 hours and then it all fell apart.
It was fun, exhausting too.
@Scott: “Connecting the ability to get pregnant with an inclination approve of the legality and availability of abortion, as sbj did, obviously does.”
Ah yes, but you base that on a poll showing that more women are pro-choice. I suggest a complete hypothetical in which men can get pregnant so I don’t think you can compare real women with a hypothetical male creature with a uterus. There is now way to know for sure how such a creature would feel, but I made it up so I think I am the expert. S/he would definitely support choice.
And now for something completely different…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUBAx8jbYNs
@rukidding: Regarding FNC. I take everything with a grain of salt. Sort of a trust but verify thing. I regard the cable news networks as entertainment, so I try to verify what I see. It’s fairly easy for me to discern opinion from fact and hype from a real issue – on ANY of the networks. Part of the reason I am here (Plum Line) is for a different perspective and possibly different news sources.
A Poll of the Vatican shows that the Pope, The Cardinals, and all the Bishops are one hundred percent for banning abortions.
I will respect their wishes, and promise to never force any of them to undergo an abortion procedure. However, since they are also one hundred percent in favor of living lives of total celibacy, why the hell did their creator endow them with male genitalia. If their God did not intend them to have ***, then why did he give each of them a serving of Frank and Beans? Hmmmm. Could it be he wanted them to be able to easily count up to eleven. Nah, that can’t be, there is no eleventh commandment.
Which reminds me, honest to God, tablets of Stone! Is that really the best that the Creator of the universe could come up with to write on. Hell, you would think that he could at least have etched it out on a metal sheet, or introduced it on a DVD. That would have gotten Moses attention. Also, where the hell are those tablets of stone.
I know if The Creator of the universe handed me such an important item, I would make sure not to forget it on moving day.
Edit: Have S*ex was censored.
sbj, my posts haven’t been going through, but let me pose another question.
If you think that poor women enrolled in government-run programs should be allowed to have Federal funding for abortions, then why can’t poor men and women choose to enroll in a Federally funded government-run health insurance program for their family’s health insurance?
@Ethan: What is this? “Answer Ethan’s Leading Questions Day?”
“Why can’t poor men and women choose to enroll in a Federally funded government-run health insurance program for their family’s health insurance?”
You are asking why I am opposed to the public option. We’ve gone over this – I’m just an IWZTRX (ignorant wingnut zombie troll racist xenophobe) who has been fooled by Faux News and the evil insurance companies.
It’s a complete waste of time to try and reason with me.
This guy sucks but a couple of facts worth noting: WMATA operates with two budgets–an operating budget and a capital budget. He voted against funding that would have impacted the capital budget. The operating budget funds pay for train operators, station managers, etc. As a result, even if he had voted for the stimulus funding for this, it wouldn’t have impacted his experience.
just called Rep Brady’s Office. His aide said that the DC Metro was not given the money in this appropriation because they mismanage it, and they have plenty of money but do not spend it wisely…. hmmm.
sbj:
And now for something completely different…
Good one. I think we have a few symbols of a struggle against reality here on this board.
Typicall of the bleeding hearts..how do you expect Metro to add cars to trains when Hussein says he’d heard nothing of the demonstration on Saturday? The “White House” calimed ignorance, so why not Metro? But, should members of the Sharpton or Obama nations wish to hold a street corner crack-in, whyyyy, Metro and the cops pull out all the stops!
Typicall [sic] of the Tea Party Racists.
@Ethan,
Ignore him. He calls himself Dutchman, so I expect that he wears wooden shoes, to keep woodpeckers away from his head!
I was in DC on 1/20/09. Now that was a stressful day for the DC Metro. A few thousand Glen Beck suckups? I don’t think the system even had to burp: http://www.swivel.com/graphs/show/25106665
Obviously, this website disdains taxpayers who pay for the insane policies of this out of control government. The stimulus was much more than Metro funding it was mostly pork for nutty liberal causes. Does someone have to vote for a nearly $800 billion package just to get one small usefu thing to make you idiots happy? This was not a few thousand and it wasn’t about Beck. It was about liberal nutcases mortgaging this country to China by the trillions. Yeah, you won the election because your candidates lied about their goals and stupid people bought the lies.
Lynn,
so we don’t pay taxes? Shut the **** up, ****.
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