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	<title>Comments on: Leader Of Conservative Opposition To Sotomayor Was Nailed For Hacking And Spying On Senate Dems</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was smart of Republicans to pick a hatchet-man with Hispanic surname.

Nah, just kidding. I like to stir the pot once in a great while...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was smart of Republicans to pick a hatchet-man with Hispanic surname.</p>
<p>Nah, just kidding. I like to stir the pot once in a great while&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, friends, you can read all about this on my website&#039;s links.  The law and the ethics, and something new for you, the facts.  All there.  Oh, and by the way, when the man came to the door to examine me for my security clearance before shipping out to Iraq for the State Department, I asked him to call Dick Durbin and a few others and here all the trash talk you lemmings are repeating.  I got my clearance pretty quickly.  Hmmm.  Could it be?....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, friends, you can read all about this on my website&#8217;s links.  The law and the ethics, and something new for you, the facts.  All there.  Oh, and by the way, when the man came to the door to examine me for my security clearance before shipping out to Iraq for the State Department, I asked him to call Dick Durbin and a few others and here all the trash talk you lemmings are repeating.  I got my clearance pretty quickly.  Hmmm.  Could it be?&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Beatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Beatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Tena. As for mwl, how can you defend Miranda while dismissing ethical concerns about this behavior? You say it&#039;s because democrats filibustered Estrada for &quot;cynical political reasons&quot; but Estrada wasn&#039;t a judge and wouldn&#039;t answer their questions. Some conservatives seem to be stretching to find reasons to oppose a good candidate. Thank goodness, it seems other Republicans can see that Sotomayor is an excellent nominee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Tena. As for mwl, how can you defend Miranda while dismissing ethical concerns about this behavior? You say it&#8217;s because democrats filibustered Estrada for &#8220;cynical political reasons&#8221; but Estrada wasn&#8217;t a judge and wouldn&#8217;t answer their questions. Some conservatives seem to be stretching to find reasons to oppose a good candidate. Thank goodness, it seems other Republicans can see that Sotomayor is an excellent nominee</p>
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		<title>By: Tena</title>
		<link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/leader-of-conservative-opposition-to-sotomayor-was-busted-for-hacking-and-spying-on-senate-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-21296</link>
		<dc:creator>Tena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Observer23 &#124;  June 3rd, 2009 at 03:15 pm

This is the LOL money quote: “If Miranda had committed a crime, then he would have been indicted and convicted.” &quot;

Word.  ROFLMAO

Yeah, everyone who commits a crime is indicted for it and everyone who is indicted for a crime committed it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Observer23 |  June 3rd, 2009 at 03:15 pm</p>
<p>This is the LOL money quote: “If Miranda had committed a crime, then he would have been indicted and convicted.” &#8221;</p>
<p>Word.  ROFLMAO</p>
<p>Yeah, everyone who commits a crime is indicted for it and everyone who is indicted for a crime committed it.</p>
<p>[falling sideways out of chair laughing]</p>
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		<title>By: Tena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Greg - the censor eased up.  Thank your people for me, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg &#8211; the censor eased up.  Thank your people for me, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Tena</title>
		<link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/leader-of-conservative-opposition-to-sotomayor-was-busted-for-hacking-and-spying-on-senate-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-21292</link>
		<dc:creator>Tena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;  Allahpundit argues that it doesn’t matter at all that the same Senators who are now outraged about Sonia Sotomayor’s “wise Latina” speech mysteriously  didn’t care about it the first time around. He claims the real takeaway is that it casts doubt on the White House claim that she misspoke. For the record, I  linked to others making that argument, too.&quot;


Ok, I&#039;m saying this again:

 how many judges do y&#039;all know? There is not a human being on this earth who can so much as sign their name without it being informed by who they are and the sum of their experience.

That’s all she said.

I did appeals when I practiced law. I also wrote opinions for the state Court of Appeals in Dallas as a staff attorney. You can always tell which judge wrote which opinion, just like you can tell which lawyer wrote which brief. Thinking is thinking and you can only use what you have in your head to do it. Writing is writing.

Now - this country has courts overflowing with White Male Christian judgers - for 300 years y’all ran every damn thing. You bet there is a different way of seeing things - a Hispanic woman has a different experience than the average over-privileged white male.

Deal with it.

Our country is not predominantly White Male Christian any more and our courts should reflect different experiences and most especially, the  SCOTUS.

All you outraged jackasses don&#039;t know the first thing about being a judge, or the 2d, or the 3d, and so on and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;  Allahpundit argues that it doesn’t matter at all that the same Senators who are now outraged about Sonia Sotomayor’s “wise Latina” speech mysteriously  didn’t care about it the first time around. He claims the real takeaway is that it casts doubt on the White House claim that she misspoke. For the record, I  linked to others making that argument, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;m saying this again:</p>
<p> how many judges do y&#8217;all know? There is not a human being on this earth who can so much as sign their name without it being informed by who they are and the sum of their experience.</p>
<p>That’s all she said.</p>
<p>I did appeals when I practiced law. I also wrote opinions for the state Court of Appeals in Dallas as a staff attorney. You can always tell which judge wrote which opinion, just like you can tell which lawyer wrote which brief. Thinking is thinking and you can only use what you have in your head to do it. Writing is writing.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; this country has courts overflowing with White Male Christian judgers &#8211; for 300 years y’all ran every damn thing. You bet there is a different way of seeing things &#8211; a Hispanic woman has a different experience than the average over-privileged white male.</p>
<p>Deal with it.</p>
<p>Our country is not predominantly White Male Christian any more and our courts should reflect different experiences and most especially, the  SCOTUS.</p>
<p>All you outraged jackasses don&#8217;t know the first thing about being a judge, or the 2d, or the 3d, and so on and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the LOL money quote: &quot;If Miranda had committed a crime, then he would have been indicted and convicted.&quot; You gotta be kidding. Virtually nobody in the government gets indicted and convicted. If they do, they get commuted/pardoned. Look at all the torture trials we should have, Libby, etc. Unfortunately, in our current setup, the idea is that &quot;If the gumment does it, it&#039;s legal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the LOL money quote: &#8220;If Miranda had committed a crime, then he would have been indicted and convicted.&#8221; You gotta be kidding. Virtually nobody in the government gets indicted and convicted. If they do, they get commuted/pardoned. Look at all the torture trials we should have, Libby, etc. Unfortunately, in our current setup, the idea is that &#8220;If the gumment does it, it&#8217;s legal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mwl</title>
		<link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/leader-of-conservative-opposition-to-sotomayor-was-busted-for-hacking-and-spying-on-senate-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-20935</link>
		<dc:creator>mwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ffakr, unfortunately for you I do know what I&#039;m talking about. Miranda was not charged because he was authorized to access the computer in question. It was a shared server to which all Judiciary Committee staff had access, both Democrat and Republican. If Miranda had committed a crime, then he would have been indicted and convicted. As for ethics, since when has that had anything to do with the practice of politics? How ethical was the precedent-setting filibuster of Estrada&#039;s nomination for cynical political reasons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ffakr, unfortunately for you I do know what I&#8217;m talking about. Miranda was not charged because he was authorized to access the computer in question. It was a shared server to which all Judiciary Committee staff had access, both Democrat and Republican. If Miranda had committed a crime, then he would have been indicted and convicted. As for ethics, since when has that had anything to do with the practice of politics? How ethical was the precedent-setting filibuster of Estrada&#8217;s nomination for cynical political reasons?</p>
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		<title>By: gnarlytrombone</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnarlytrombone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do know prosecutors sit on the opposite side of the bench as judges, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do know prosecutors sit on the opposite side of the bench as judges, right?</p>
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		<title>By: tao9</title>
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		<dc:creator>tao9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ffakr FAIL: &quot;...exactly ZERO judicial experience.&quot;

From 1990 until 1992, Estrada served as Assistant U.S. Attorney and Deputy Chief of the Appellate Section, U.S. Attorney&#039;s Office, Southern District of New York. In 1992, he joined the United States Department of Justice as an Assistant to the Solicitor General for the Clinton Administration. In those capacities, Estrada represented the government in numerous jury trials and in many appeals before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ffakr FAIL: &#8220;&#8230;exactly ZERO judicial experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>From 1990 until 1992, Estrada served as Assistant U.S. Attorney and Deputy Chief of the Appellate Section, U.S. Attorney&#8217;s Office, Southern District of New York. In 1992, he joined the United States Department of Justice as an Assistant to the Solicitor General for the Clinton Administration. In those capacities, Estrada represented the government in numerous jury trials and in many appeals before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.</p>
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		<title>By: ffakr</title>
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		<dc:creator>ffakr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mwl, you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.  

There are laws against &quot;unauthorized access to computer systems&quot;.  Poor security is NOT an excuse for entering a computer system without authorization.  It&#039;s a crime.. black and white.  It&#039;s an extremely serious crime that would have warranted prison time had it been anyone else [outside the beltway].

As for Miguel Estrada, the reason he was opposed was because he was appointed to a federal court of appeals position with exactly ZERO judicial experience.  He had a very impressive educational background and had clerked for at least two judges but Bush attempted to appoint someone with no time Behind the bench to a very power position.  4 of our current SCOTUS were on that bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mwl, you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.  </p>
<p>There are laws against &#8220;unauthorized access to computer systems&#8221;.  Poor security is NOT an excuse for entering a computer system without authorization.  It&#8217;s a crime.. black and white.  It&#8217;s an extremely serious crime that would have warranted prison time had it been anyone else [outside the beltway].</p>
<p>As for Miguel Estrada, the reason he was opposed was because he was appointed to a federal court of appeals position with exactly ZERO judicial experience.  He had a very impressive educational background and had clerked for at least two judges but Bush attempted to appoint someone with no time Behind the bench to a very power position.  4 of our current SCOTUS were on that bench.</p>
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		<title>By: ffakr</title>
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		<dc:creator>ffakr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was caught circumventing the security of an average Joe&#039;s computer, let alone government systems, I would very likely spend a long time in Jail.  Computer Crime penalties are Extremely draconian and extremely broad in definition.  Cases have been made against people using unsecured wifi without permission in the past.

It&#039;s  only reason we don&#039;t have significantly more computer criminals in prison is because it&#039;s generally difficult to prove an intrusion.  Most systems don&#039;t even notice an intrusion unless it&#039;s disruptive.

It&#039;s amazing how little the political class has to fear from the law.

As I recall, this guys defenders claimed the Dems had unsecured shares on the network so.. it like wasn&#039;t his fault he stole the documents.  That makes zero difference in the eyes of the law.. any more than an open garage door as an excuse for stealing someone&#039;s lawn mower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was caught circumventing the security of an average Joe&#8217;s computer, let alone government systems, I would very likely spend a long time in Jail.  Computer Crime penalties are Extremely draconian and extremely broad in definition.  Cases have been made against people using unsecured wifi without permission in the past.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s  only reason we don&#8217;t have significantly more computer criminals in prison is because it&#8217;s generally difficult to prove an intrusion.  Most systems don&#8217;t even notice an intrusion unless it&#8217;s disruptive.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how little the political class has to fear from the law.</p>
<p>As I recall, this guys defenders claimed the Dems had unsecured shares on the network so.. it like wasn&#8217;t his fault he stole the documents.  That makes zero difference in the eyes of the law.. any more than an open garage door as an excuse for stealing someone&#8217;s lawn mower.</p>
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		<title>By: forked tongue</title>
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		<dc:creator>forked tongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Democrats were big fat hypocrites when they got up on their hind legs and brayed about being &quot;mortified&quot; by Miranda&#039;s &quot;improper, unethical, and simply unacceptable breach of confidential files.&quot;

Oh, wait.  That was Orrin Hatch who said that.  Never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Democrats were big fat hypocrites when they got up on their hind legs and brayed about being &#8220;mortified&#8221; by Miranda&#8217;s &#8220;improper, unethical, and simply unacceptable breach of confidential files.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, wait.  That was Orrin Hatch who said that.  Never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: gnarlytrombone</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnarlytrombone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just walked by a co-worker&#039;s desk; Outlook was open on her desktop. Ethics, smethics. Her e-mails are fair game! For one thing, she&#039;s a known hypocrite. Also, if she wanted them protected, she shoulda put a door on her cubicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just walked by a co-worker&#8217;s desk; Outlook was open on her desktop. Ethics, smethics. Her e-mails are fair game! For one thing, she&#8217;s a known hypocrite. Also, if she wanted them protected, she shoulda put a door on her cubicle.</p>
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		<title>By: mwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manuel Miranda performed a public service by blowing the whistle on Senate Democrats who cynically filibustered Miguel Estrada, not because he was unqualified to be an appeals court judge, but because they feared the elevation of a Hispanic conservative to the Supreme Court. Miranda did not &quot;hack&quot; the system; the Democrat staffers left their files unlocked on a public server. If what he did was as bad as you say, why was he never charged, convicted, and disbarred?

The Democrats&#039; strategy memos were no different from a trade secret: You are responsible for securing your confidential trade secrets.  If a competitor manages to get hold of them via dumpster diving or any other legal method (as opposed to illegal methods such as breach of NDA), well it&#039;s your own damn fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manuel Miranda performed a public service by blowing the whistle on Senate Democrats who cynically filibustered Miguel Estrada, not because he was unqualified to be an appeals court judge, but because they feared the elevation of a Hispanic conservative to the Supreme Court. Miranda did not &#8220;hack&#8221; the system; the Democrat staffers left their files unlocked on a public server. If what he did was as bad as you say, why was he never charged, convicted, and disbarred?</p>
<p>The Democrats&#8217; strategy memos were no different from a trade secret: You are responsible for securing your confidential trade secrets.  If a competitor manages to get hold of them via dumpster diving or any other legal method (as opposed to illegal methods such as breach of NDA), well it&#8217;s your own damn fault.</p>
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