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	<title>Comments on: Fox News: Focus On Pelosi Changes Subject From Whether To Prosecute Bush Officials</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosi the biggest lying BITCH and Whore, she must taken out of office, take her ass whole Democrats friend with her, they are all STUPID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi the biggest lying <acronym title="BITCH">*****</acronym> and <acronym title="Whore">*****</acronym>, she must taken out of office, take her <acronym title="ass">***</acronym> whole Democrats friend with her, they are all STUPID.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanDownnder</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanDownnder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call their bluff. Commence impeachment hearings into Pelosi&#039;s involvement with torture crimes. Call witnesses under oath. First establish the crimes. Then assess her involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call their bluff. Commence impeachment hearings into Pelosi&#8217;s involvement with torture crimes. Call witnesses under oath. First establish the crimes. Then assess her involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: jacksmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacksmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STOP! The Attacks On Speaker Pelosi

Last time they tried to attack Speaker Pelosi ( second in line to the President of the United States) it was about her alleged abuse of military transportation. This attack as expected turned out to be bogus. It turned out that the previous Speaker (Hastert - a Republican) made far more use of military transportation. It turned out that Speaker Pelosi was possibly overly prudent and too self-restrained in her use of military transportation.

Now Republicans are trying to attack her about allegedly having been told by the Bush administration about things she was not told about, like water boarding. Republicans are attacking her because she is being so effective at getting the peoples work done in congress, like healthcare. And Republicans want to stop her. Don&#039;t put up with that. Every time they attack Speaker Pelosi they are attacking you and the rest of the American people. If they go after her, go after them even harder.

They are trying to con Speaker Pelosi and the American people. And here is how it works. Approximately 6 years ago CIA had a briefing with Pelosi and congress, but DID NOT tell congress and Pelosi that the Bush administration was using torture ( water boarding ) on detainees. Then the Bush administration sent in Porter Goss to head the CIA and to destroy, and doctor records in part to make it look like Pelosi, and the Democrats in congress were onboard with the illegal torture of detainees by the Bush administration.

See, apparently at these intelligence briefings members of congress are not allowed to take notes. And if they do, they are not allowed to keep them. Apparently the CIA makes notes, but the members of congress are not allowed to see those notes either. And they can&#039;t tell anybody about what was said at the briefings. But the CIA can come back six years later and claim they told members of congress something six years ago that they did not tell them at that time. And they can use falsified notes to substantiate their claim. Planting disinformation was the type of thing the CIA became very good at during the time Porter Goss was a young CIA agent. Just gotta love it. :-)

If you will remember, their was a mass exodus of senior CIA officials after Porter Goss took over. And the complaint at the time was that longtime, highly experienced agents were being replaced by other people based mostly on their political loyalties to the Bush administration and their extreme right-wing ideologies. Which is just exactly what you need if you want people who will be willing to break the law under orders. Sound familiar? I don&#039;t think you can trust any CIA records after Goss took over.

I have nothing but the utmost respect, and admiration for the dedicated and patriotic members of OUR! Central Intelligence Agency. When the Bush administration betrayed one of OUR! agents (Mrs. Wilson) it made me boiling MAD! I think our new Director Pennetta has got some internal investigation and agency house cleaning to do. If you backtrack on the individuals that have been making the false attacks on Speaker Pelosi, and trace who they have had contact and conversations with, you should be able to connect the dots and catch your conspirators.

The key that the CIA records are falsified is Sen. Bob Graham and his journal, and common sense. :-) By the way, I think Mr. Pennetta is an excellent choice to head the CIA and fix it.

They are trying to kill healthcare reform.  And continue our healthcare crisis. Don&#039;t put up with that.

PASS THE WORD.

To The Congress Of The United States:

If it is true that you are not allowed to have or make any permanent records of your intelligence briefings for later clarifications, and protection, that is ridiculous. That leaves all of you vulnerable to just this type of scam that is being perpetrated on Speaker Pelosi. So here is what you can do about it to protect your-selves in the future.

Members should be able to make notes and other recordings of these briefings. Then these briefings and recordings can be reduced to a computer file that can then be encrypted and digitally signed with a detached digital signature using key encryption. Then each of you can encrypt, and sign each others copy of the record that can only be unlocked with the other parties key. And both parties copies can be verified with each others copy of the files detached digital signature. 

Very easy. Very secure. No more exposure to falsified records down the road. :-)		

You see, it almost doesn&#039;t really matter what CIA allegedly did or didn&#039;t tell Speaker Pelosi, and congress. Because the briefing format is so deficient of any checks, balances, or verification that all we know is that all external briefing accounts support Speaker Pelosi&#039;s version of events. Pelosi and congress should have been given every benefit of the doubt. And that should have been it.

There are many other booby traps out there set for you congress. Be careful.

God Bless You

jacksmith — WORKING CLASS

p.s. I still think the timing of Sen. Bob Graham&#039;s ruptured cerebral aneurism was suspicious. More so now, than before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOP! The Attacks On Speaker Pelosi</p>
<p>Last time they tried to attack Speaker Pelosi ( second in line to the President of the United States) it was about her alleged abuse of military transportation. This attack as expected turned out to be bogus. It turned out that the previous Speaker (Hastert &#8211; a Republican) made far more use of military transportation. It turned out that Speaker Pelosi was possibly overly prudent and too self-restrained in her use of military transportation.</p>
<p>Now Republicans are trying to attack her about allegedly having been told by the Bush administration about things she was not told about, like water boarding. Republicans are attacking her because she is being so effective at getting the peoples work done in congress, like healthcare. And Republicans want to stop her. Don&#8217;t put up with that. Every time they attack Speaker Pelosi they are attacking you and the rest of the American people. If they go after her, go after them even harder.</p>
<p>They are trying to con Speaker Pelosi and the American people. And here is how it works. Approximately 6 years ago CIA had a briefing with Pelosi and congress, but DID NOT tell congress and Pelosi that the Bush administration was using torture ( water boarding ) on detainees. Then the Bush administration sent in Porter Goss to head the CIA and to destroy, and doctor records in part to make it look like Pelosi, and the Democrats in congress were onboard with the illegal torture of detainees by the Bush administration.</p>
<p>See, apparently at these intelligence briefings members of congress are not allowed to take notes. And if they do, they are not allowed to keep them. Apparently the CIA makes notes, but the members of congress are not allowed to see those notes either. And they can&#8217;t tell anybody about what was said at the briefings. But the CIA can come back six years later and claim they told members of congress something six years ago that they did not tell them at that time. And they can use falsified notes to substantiate their claim. Planting disinformation was the type of thing the CIA became very good at during the time Porter Goss was a young CIA agent. Just gotta love it. <img src='http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you will remember, their was a mass exodus of senior CIA officials after Porter Goss took over. And the complaint at the time was that longtime, highly experienced agents were being replaced by other people based mostly on their political loyalties to the Bush administration and their extreme right-wing ideologies. Which is just exactly what you need if you want people who will be willing to break the law under orders. Sound familiar? I don&#8217;t think you can trust any CIA records after Goss took over.</p>
<p>I have nothing but the utmost respect, and admiration for the dedicated and patriotic members of OUR! Central Intelligence Agency. When the Bush administration betrayed one of OUR! agents (Mrs. Wilson) it made me boiling MAD! I think our new Director Pennetta has got some internal investigation and agency house cleaning to do. If you backtrack on the individuals that have been making the false attacks on Speaker Pelosi, and trace who they have had contact and conversations with, you should be able to connect the dots and catch your conspirators.</p>
<p>The key that the CIA records are falsified is Sen. Bob Graham and his journal, and common sense. <img src='http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  By the way, I think Mr. Pennetta is an excellent choice to head the CIA and fix it.</p>
<p>They are trying to kill healthcare reform.  And continue our healthcare crisis. Don&#8217;t put up with that.</p>
<p>PASS THE WORD.</p>
<p>To The Congress Of The United States:</p>
<p>If it is true that you are not allowed to have or make any permanent records of your intelligence briefings for later clarifications, and protection, that is ridiculous. That leaves all of you vulnerable to just this type of scam that is being perpetrated on Speaker Pelosi. So here is what you can do about it to protect your-selves in the future.</p>
<p>Members should be able to make notes and other recordings of these briefings. Then these briefings and recordings can be reduced to a computer file that can then be encrypted and digitally signed with a detached digital signature using key encryption. Then each of you can encrypt, and sign each others copy of the record that can only be unlocked with the other parties key. And both parties copies can be verified with each others copy of the files detached digital signature. </p>
<p>Very easy. Very secure. No more exposure to falsified records down the road. <img src='http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> 		</p>
<p>You see, it almost doesn&#8217;t really matter what CIA allegedly did or didn&#8217;t tell Speaker Pelosi, and congress. Because the briefing format is so deficient of any checks, balances, or verification that all we know is that all external briefing accounts support Speaker Pelosi&#8217;s version of events. Pelosi and congress should have been given every benefit of the doubt. And that should have been it.</p>
<p>There are many other booby traps out there set for you congress. Be careful.</p>
<p>God Bless You</p>
<p>jacksmith — WORKING CLASS</p>
<p>p.s. I still think the timing of Sen. Bob Graham&#8217;s ruptured cerebral aneurism was suspicious. More so now, than before.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry da man Obamacan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry da man Obamacan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;Republicans are having a feeding frenzy,&quot; consider the chum. Bela Pelosi, Rockyfella, and all the others who were on the list of donks briefed by the IC are easy prey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;Republicans are having a feeding frenzy,&#8221; consider the chum. Bela Pelosi, Rockyfella, and all the others who were on the list of donks briefed by the IC are easy prey.</p>
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		<title>By: Tena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen Hussein in Maine  - well said.

They should have learned by now - it&#039;s been like this for them for awhile now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen Hussein in Maine  &#8211; well said.</p>
<p>They should have learned by now &#8211; it&#8217;s been like this for them for awhile now.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Hussein in Maine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Hussein in Maine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans are having a feeding frenzy. They think it&#039;s Pelosi&#039;s blood in the water, but it&#039;s their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans are having a feeding frenzy. They think it&#8217;s Pelosi&#8217;s blood in the water, but it&#8217;s their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BBPTV: Best Political Poseurs On TV</description>
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		<title>By: Simon J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: the Republican push back is fraught with unintended consequences. I have two Republican friends who think this is bad news for the Bushies. They don&#039;t want a Truth Commission after what the 9/11 Commission found. I think this is now beyond Pelosi and that jackass Boehner will be backtracking this week. But trust The Blitz to push this nonsense with his BPPOTV. Is there a air head that can beat John King&#039;s wife?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: the Republican push back is fraught with unintended consequences. I have two Republican friends who think this is bad news for the Bushies. They don&#8217;t want a Truth Commission after what the 9/11 Commission found. I think this is now beyond Pelosi and that jackass Boehner will be backtracking this week. But trust The Blitz to push this nonsense with his BPPOTV. Is there a air head that can beat John King&#8217;s wife?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Sargent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Sargent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JaO, I&#039;m making Hoekstra&#039;s comments the lede item of the roundup...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JaO, I&#8217;m making Hoekstra&#8217;s comments the lede item of the roundup&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JaO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JaO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
.
It&#039;s your sandbox.  But I fail to see how the sum of 1) What some Fox correspondent says; 2) What Boehner&#039;s flack says and 3) What Steele&#039;s flack says amounts to one-tenth the hard-news value of Hoekstra&#039;s backtracking, based on the actual CIA memos describing the briefing, which Hoekstra alone purports to be reporting on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
.<br />
It&#8217;s your sandbox.  But I fail to see how the sum of 1) What some Fox correspondent says; 2) What Boehner&#8217;s flack says and 3) What Steele&#8217;s flack says amounts to one-tenth the hard-news value of Hoekstra&#8217;s backtracking, based on the actual CIA memos describing the briefing, which Hoekstra alone purports to be reporting on.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Sargent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Sargent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, did see SG, thx -- will prob work into roundup...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, did see SG, thx &#8212; will prob work into roundup&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sgwhiteinfla</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgwhiteinfla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg
.
Did you see that Hoekstra/FoxNews video that JaO posted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg<br />
.<br />
Did you see that Hoekstra/FoxNews video that JaO posted?</p>
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		<title>By: Tena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - what gets into Fox?  Every once in awhile they do this.  

Congress can settle this - Congress can launch an investigation of all this, if it wants to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; what gets into Fox?  Every once in awhile they do this.  </p>
<p>Congress can settle this &#8211; Congress can launch an investigation of all this, if it wants to.</p>
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