Obama To Drop Below 50% In Gallup Tracking Today, Official Confirms
For the first time, President Obama will drop below 50% in today’s Gallup tracking poll, a Gallup official confirms.
“He will be just below 50% when we update today,” Gallup spokesman Eric Nielsen says. Gallup updates at 1 PM daily.
Obama had repeatedly skirted 50%, only to bounce back up again. When Gallup updates today, it will mark at least the third poll finding Obama dropping below 50% — Quinnipiac and Fox both had similar findings this week.
But the Gallup tracking poll’s finding is likely to generate considerably more discussion, because of Gallup’s reputation and because they’ve been doing daily tracking for some time, enabling them to put the numbers in a larger context. Indeed, I’m told Gallup will be posting an analysis of Obama’s drop below the 50% threshhold today. Should be interesting.
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Keep you head down, Greg! You’re about to receive incoming fire…
Unlikely there SBJ. Gallup has a legitmately earned god reputation. Its a shame, but I can’t imagine that anyone here that isn’t brain damaged is going to have anything to stand on for a freakout.
What took them so long?
Apologies, all, the site crashed. We’re working on it.
I’m about to totally freak out! My entire life is based on that Gallup poll! Ohhh noeeezzz!!1!11!!!111
When opening http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com earlier
I got the message:
“You have chose to open
which is a: application/x-gzip”
If that helps any…
I suspect that even less people would vote for this fraud. He won 52% of the vote when his approval rating was near 70%.
I suspect that less than 40% would vote for him after the unmitigated disaster of his first year.
gzip rocks. supercache rocks. wordpress rocks.
Greg,
I got the same download message as New Reference.
You should have your tech support scan the server system, to make sure that you have not been hacked. Automatic file download connections, seems very suspicious.
All, can you let me know your experiences? It should be working now.
Hey, SBJ, looks like the incoming is here, just not quite what you expected, I expect.
Greg, first I got nothing, blank screen. Then I tried http://www.whorunsgov.com, and it said something like the server you are trying to reach is not responding. I didn’t get any lingo.
No one Polled me?!? I would say that if you polled everyone and told them what Obama was really like and how corrupt everything is then it would drop to about 90% disapproval rate!
Some of these institutions are more concerned about Obama’s poll numbers than the many numbers of people who lack healthcare or decent food to eat! That they do not want us to reflect on!
It makes no good sense for anyone to oppose healthcare reform. It seems some are more worried about Insurance companies being crowded out due to competition and lower costs than the Health of the people, some who will surely die. Some are more concerned for the bottomline of the Insurance Companies than the small businesses (who they Pretend to care about) who have to pay high premiums for their employees, forcing some out of business, some to offer no health insurance, or some to set up shop elsewhere other than the United States! Small businesses will not be forced to offer health insurance for their employees but employees will have the option to buy their own affordable healthcare from a public option! And why do we have so many kinds of crises in this country????
It is too bad that we have a certain group — the Party of No and Fear — who are Advocates of Can’t, Won’t, Shouldn’t, Distortion, Fear, Hatred and Divisiveness. They are a dark group, a bitter group. For too long we have been spoon-fed a bunch of lies and fears by these powers who want to immobilize us, paralyze us and confuse us and to keep us circling the Yellow Brick Road! Again, why do we have so many crises in this country???
And, It is a sad fact that the Afghanistan War is also a false war and a false choice. These terrorists do not stay in one place or in one country, they are all over. We are not at war with any one country, this is a fallacy. WE are in a “struggle” with an ideology, yes or evil, yes, but we are not at war with any country. Since, we have terrorists in our own country who are not Muslims, does this make us at war with the United States?
OH, if we only had a Brain….., Courage….., Heart/LOVE!
I got the same as Kathleen, hope you weren’t hacked.
I’m with a lot of others here, daily/weekly polls are interesting and I agree it’s a sign of discontent, but it usually turns around when accomplishments are achieved. We’ll see. I just wish the Senate bill was waaaayyyyy better.
“unmitigated disaster”:
Right winger’s fraudulent economic policies pushed this country to the edge of a Second Republican Great Depression.
Right winger’s military failures included the 9/11 attack, the Afghanistan failure, and the Iraq War Lie.
Right wingers are actively trying to make America fail.
And right wingers are actively obstructing constructive policies to address the problems our country are facing.
Also, I’m sure the WH is watching the polls as well and maybe they will be able to figure out a way to trickle some money down to Main Street.
I’m sure Rush will be thrilled. That is until he sees the other polling data from Public Policy Polling that has Obama still beating Palin and anyone else in the GOP!
If I were this admin I would focus on long term and figure out a way for our workforce to compete globally.
I mean, if company A can get a widget for $3 built in the U.S. and company B can get the same widget for $1 built in China, company A will be forced to import it’s goods from China or go out of business alla everyone who tries to compete with Walmart.
Some sort of incentive needs to be created to purchase in country. It could take a couple decades to shift the momentum back to purchasing made American products but it’s something we need to focus on to keep a vibrant middle class.
Republicans: “the Party of No and Fear — who are Advocates of Can’t, Won’t, Shouldn’t, Distortion, Fear, Hatred and Divisiveness.”
Yup.
G-O-Politico:
“Ronald Reagan’s approval numbers dropped well below 40% during the depths of his first term recession.”
Saint Ronald Reagan. Below 40%. Still won re-election easily. Ho hum.
Btw, remember the Republican “Culture of Corruption”? Still there. This is also from politico:
When asked by [Nightline correspondent Cynthia] McFadden if it was clear that $96,000 was, in fact, severance and not a gift, Hampton said it was “crystal clear.”
“Crystal clear,” Hampton said. “I took notes. I’ve shared those notes. They’re well documented. They were clearly what he deemed as severance.”
The Ensign family has said that the $96,000 was a gift and not severance, and that they complied with all the applicable laws. A family spokesman — denying a payoff — called it part of a “pattern of generosity” made “out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time.”
“Pattern of generosity?” Hampton told McFadden. “Oh, hey, listen, ‘We realize our son’s having an affair with your wife, maybe some money will help.’ It’s ridiculous!”
In the interview, Hampton also renews damning allegations, including claims that Ensign knowingly arranged for Hampton to lobby his Senate office within a year of leaving his post, which could violate federal ethics laws.
If DOJ doesn’t go after this guy……….
mike from Arlington… you raise a great point and let me add one twist. Companies that make products here, sell them here and abroad.
I have two customers who are manufacturers in the midwest. Both make products in the U.S. using union labor and pay good wages. Ironically growth for both companies over the past five years as mostly been through global markets.
Re: Ensign and Republican standards:
Have affairs with prostitutes, get a standing ovation (Republican Vitter).
Have affairs with a staffer, get your parents to pay off the family and get help with the cover-up by the theocratic “Family” on C Street (Republican Ensign and Vitter).
And isn’t it amazing that Republican Reagan can betray his first wife and abandon his children and the right wing declare him the paragon of ‘family values’ and ’social conservatism’?
Right Wing’s First Rule: Rules are For Other People.
Obama ties Reagan for hitting below 50% at 10 months of his presidency.
It’s a combination of Obama out of the country for a week and double digit unemployment.
Wow, News Reference, you don’t really believe those conspiracy theories that you spewed, do you? Obama IS an unmitigated disaster!
No matter how many jobs that he gleefully yet deceptively claims that he “saved or created,” the truth of the matter that the liberal left-wing nuts in Congress were responsible for the current economic crisis. Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and Chris Dodd are the ones that the media fears pointing out for their role in this mess.
The Democrats point to 2008 as a “banner year” for the Bush Administration. They fail to remember that unemployment reached an all-time low during the Bush Administration BEFORE the finger-pointing liberals took over Congress. They also fail to accept responsibility for their leading role in this mess.
My liberal friend, you might want to stop reading left-wing conspiracy websites. You might even start sifting through the media to determine what is fact and what is opinion.
One of America’s traditional strengths was it’s manufacturing base. Our American manufacturing base was protected by government from foreign competitors.
Right wingers, like Republicon Reagan, came in and decided to stop protecting America’s manufacturing base.
The right wing’s fraudulent economic system empowered Communist China while selling out both our American manufacturing strengths AND American jobs.
Why do right wingers hate America?
[b]NEW REFERENCES’ FIRST RULE: LIE CREATIVELY & LIE OFTEN. HOPEFULLY, ENOUGH MORONS WILL BELIEVE IT IF IT IS REPEATED OFTEN ENOUGH.[/b]
NEW REFERENCES’ FIRST RULE: LIE CREATIVELY & LIE OFTEN. HOPEFULLY, ENOUGH MORONS WILL BELIEVE IT IF IT IS REPEATED OFTEN ENOUGH.
Why do left wingers hate America?
“You might even start sifting through the media to determine what is fact and what is opinion.”
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Hey News Reference: Get a job, you conspiracy-theory embracing, dishonest hippie! Or is your beloved liberal Congress and their articulate fall guy Obama sending all of our your to China and India? Still…
GET A JOB…and STOP repeating your silly ultra-liberal conspiracy theory laden talking points from Ariana Huffington and her creepy gal pal Nancy Pelosi.
That is all.
=)
Here’s something to contemplate.
Unemployment was still at 7.2% when Reagan had his landslide election.
So, if unemployment gets anywhere near 7.2% in 3 years, you think Obama and his team will get any credit and get Republicans in states like Idaho, Wyoming and Utah to vote for him?
Go back to where you came from teabagger scum.
From Hoover to George W. Bush;
Republicans have created all the Great Economic Depressions, and then start complaining immediately, that Democrats are not fixing those Republican created disasters, fast enough.
Blue Collar Morons only vote for Democrats, after the Republicans have ruined their job prospects. As soon as the Democrats restore the economy, then those Blue Collar Morons, return to their obsessions with GOD, GUNS, And ****.
‘Twas ever thus, and as soon as Democrats put a jingle back in the pockets of the working class, those Morons will find another Reagan, or George W. Bush to fall in love with, because “he is just like them, and they feel that they could have a Beer with them”. It is the Moron’s stamp of approval. They want a President who comes across as being just as big a simpleton as they are.
Hrmm..that link didn’t work. This would get you to where you can play with the dates and get unemployment numbers.
I know it’s /bin/sed before, but bzip2 beats gzip any day.
Hi Ethan…
Is that how you treat everyone who disagrees with your flop of a president and Congress? We are “scum” since we disagree with him?
In the alternate reality the right wing lives in, the 2007 Republican Great Recession is the fault of the guy who wasn’t in charge until 2009.
In right wingers world, the seven plus years of Republican failures in Afghanistan are the fault of the guy who hasn’t been in charge for even a year.
In right wingers world, the fact that fraudulent right wing economic policies pushed US into the 2007 Great Recession is somehow the fault of someone else.
Look at the driving forces on the right: Right wingers overwhelmingly believe the earth is less than 7,000 years old, right wingers outright deny the scientific evidence supporting evolution, and right wingers outright deny the overwhelming scientific evidence supporting global climate change.
Right wingers overwhelmingly live in a fictional world.
And the rare “rational” right winger is attacked by the increasingly extreme right wing as not being crazy enough to represent the right.
I’m trying to prepare myself for the oncoming media freak-out about this. But, approval ratings typically take a hit when unemployment is high. I’ll try to keep count of all the “analyses” that conveniently neglect to note that salient fact.
Mireya, go jump off a bridge.
Somehow I expect Mireya Ayala was completly convinced Obama was a flop of a president before he was even elected.
Get a job, you conspiracy-theory embracing, dishonest hippie!
Not the words of someone who simply disagrees.
One of America’s traditional strengths was it’s manufacturing base. Our American manufacturing base was protected by government from foreign competitors.
Right wingers, like Republicon Reagan, came in and decided to stop protecting America’s manufacturing base.
At its time this was true, but Big Steel collapsed when Carter was president, so arguing this is tricky and not necessarily effective. Don’t forget that Lyndon LaRouche passionately argues this, too.
the liberal left-wing nuts in Congress were responsible for the current economic crisis
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the Republicans who BORROW and spend like there’s no tomorrow!
You know who else does that? Robert Mugabe! Go look up what borrowing & spending has done in Zimbabwe.
When you borrow and spend in the quantities that the Republicans have during the previous eight years it wildly throws the economy out of kilter. When you combine that with heavy deregulation and the opening of financial speculation that leads to economic disasters.
The REBPULICANS did that.
Nice spin “Angellight” – Right out of the leftwing playbook of accusing your opponents of the very dirty deeds that yourself and those you support engage in. “Gee, Wally. I have never seen this tactic before.”
In respect to healthcare, I find it interesting how you follow the Democratic Party’s playbook of attacking the “evil profiteering” insurance companies who only make about 2% profit, yet you and those you support completely ignore the largest cost to healthcare – litigation. And by the way, here is a question for you.. What is going to happen to healthcare when 40 million (many of them illegal aliens by the way) are added to the current healthcare system? Is that going to make the system better or worse for everyone?
It is laughable that you bring up small business in the discussion. Do you now realize that they will be forced to provide health insurance under your regime’s plan whether they can afford to or not? And let’s not forget the tax policy of this administration which believes that anyone (including small business owners) who make over $200,000 is “rich” and should be taxed additional.
“why do we have so many crises in this country?” Let’s see now… all of the “crises” that you referred to are related to…too much government! Yet, you advocate more government as the solution!
Bravo! Your a genius!
Your comments are laughable. Come back when you have some balanced, objective, and substantiated views instead of just regurgitating the same old liberal spin.
“News Reference”: “In the alternate reality the right wing lives in, the 2007 Republican Great Recession is the fault of the guy who wasn’t in charge until 2009.”
What exactly did the “guy who wasn’t in charge until 2009″ do when he was put in charge? He added 2 trillion in debt in a matter of 8 weeks! Where has that gotten us? Where is the “stimulus”? What happened to all of that toxic dept at B of A? And now he wants to add what will amount to another 2 trillion in healhcare. And what about Afghanistan? When is this guy going to make a decesion while our troops are there dying? In each case, he is taking bad situations and making them extremely worse in a very short period of time. Are you such a blind partican lemming that you cannot admit or see that? In respect to fraudulent economic policies, who was is the party that encouraged mortgage loans to those who cannat afford it? Who’s campaign chairman profited from Fannie Mae?
“Right wingers overwhelmingly live in a fictional world.” Perhaps there are those on the far right who do not understand reality, but you surely are not implying that liberals view life through the lense of reality are you?
And in respect to selling out “American manufacturing jobs”, sending manufacturing oversees has resulted in lower cost goods for all of us – including that keyboard you type on. Sending low pay manufacturing jobs oversees has resulted in more company profit, and an increase in better jobs in the U.S. which both benefit all of us. The recession would actually be worse if it were not for the improved economic conditions of U.S. companies which have sent low skill jobs oversees. In case you have not woken up, we are in the 21st century and must compete economically from a global perspective. Protectionism of low skilled, low paying jobs is not going to get us there. That is basic economics. Consider yourself schooled now.
I HOPE THIS WEEK PRESIDENT FAILS AT ANYTHING HE TRIES TO DO. BOTH HE AND SND HIS WIFE HATE ANERICA AND THE LAWS THAT MADE IT WHAT IT IS TODAY. WANT PROOF JUST LISTEN TO HIS ****!!!
Um, let’s not go overboard here. Look at Gallup’s polling. It’s been so up/down (58%, then 50% a few days later, then back up to 55%, then down to 50%, then back up to 56%, then down again to 50%) that it’s hard to take them seriously any more.
Blah.
Oh jeez. Trollfest 2009. Get lost scumbaggers!
omg, obama should resign tomorrow.
Ethan,
Your mommy just called and she said you need to lie down a take your nap right away or you’ll miss Barney!
okay, amk — here’s the deal. there’s a post above on a great new ad that Obama’s political operation has created. You aren’t talking about that.
But you are talking about the post on Gallup.
Rest my case.
Right winger “Just the Fax” defends the Republicon’s selling out of America’s manufacturing base and Republicon’s selling out of American jobs.
To correct the right winger’s misstatements:
“Sending” high paying American “manufacturing jobs oversees has resulted in more” international corporations “company profit, and an increase[s]“ lower paying “jobs in the U.S. which both benefit” foreign competitors like Communist China and international corporations with no loyalty to America (like WalMart).
Results: While the fraudulent right wing economic con has empowered Communist China, a tiny handful of the Walton-welfare-aristocrats have vastly enriched themselves.
Good American manufacturing jobs were replaced by the low-wages of WalMart jobs.
That’s not good for Americans and NOT good for America.
Apparently this too hard for right wingers to understand because their Communist Chinese owners pay them too much that they can’t think straight.
They must have linked this to this blog from http://www.icantdealwithdefeat.com.
Greg, My reply in the relevant post
“Your mommy just called and she said you need to lie down a take your nap right away or you’ll miss Barney!”
Why are you even on a political blog if you’re going to post that sh*t?
Oh, right, it’s to show everyone that even though you’re an immature scumbagger who is brainwashed by a mentally-unstable coke addict, you oppose the Democrats saving the country from the Right Wing Neo-fascists.
Thanks for the reminder. Duly noted.
Apparently this is too hard for right wingers to understand because their Communist Chinese owners pay them so much that they can’t think straight.
Why do right wingers hate America so much that they would empower Communist China and hurt America?
Yes, the overall private health insurance industry profit is between 2 and 3%. And yes Aetna ONLY netted 326-million in profit for the third quarter this year so we should cut them a break and the other insurers who are just getting by.
“The health-care industry’s total annual profit has grown to an estimated $200 billion”
“With median annual compensation of more than $12.4 million, C.E.O.’s at the big health-care companies make two-thirds more than their counterparts in finance and are the highest paid of any industry. The health-care industry’s total annual profit has grown to an estimated $200 billion, and it doled out nearly $170 million in campaign contributions in 2007 and 2008. It now spends more than any other industry lobbying the federal government—$3.5 billion over the past decade and a record $263 million in the first six months of this year. That’s six lobbyists and nearly half a million dollars for each member of Congress. It’s been a good year on K Street, too.”
That is 200$ BILLION that didn’t go to paying someone’s healthcare.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/09/health-care200909
Right wingers chose corporate-profit over American lives.
“Right wingers chose corporate-profit over American lives.”
The absolute bar-none best example of this imho is Palin hawking her sad-a$$ book at Ft. Hood.
Go there to support the troops, okay, but on your BOOK TOUR?
Just shameless.
Sending low pay manufacturing jobs oversees has resulted in more company profit, and an increase in better jobs in the U.S. which both benefit all of us.
And also a much larger increase in low wage jobs that don’t benefit us. As long as you strive to maintain what the Republicans began you will live in a society with a diminishing middle class, an increase in the upper class, and a far, far larger increase in the lower class.
The Republicans have spent the last century fighting as hard as they can to recreate the late 19th Century’s Guilded Age.
As a general strategy that’s stupid.
At last some reinforcements for me and sbj in this God-foresaken wasteland of liberalidiocy and hatred.
Oh noes! This is clearly the beginning of the end. Just like it was for Reagan and Clinton when they first fell below 50% during recessions early in their first terms.
Unlike Comrade Obama, Reagan wasn’t doing everything in his power to make unemployment go up. It probably isn’t Obama’s fault – he isn’t smart enough to understand it and never read a non-commie economics book in his life – but making having employees more expensive is not going to make unemployment go down. Next year is looking very ugly for the cause of scientific socialism, sorry statists and public employee afficianados of whorunsgov.
Protectionism and awful monetary policy started the Great Depression. Then the amiable dunce FDR threw gas on the fire with centralized planning, wage and price controls, confiscatory and punitive taxes, constant Soviet-style denunciations of business and profits, and massive spending and growth of government. He prolonged and deepened the disaster for a decade until WWII came along. His own Sec of Treasury said their policies were a failure.
And yet Democrats have been following that playbook ever since and currently threaten to send us into another depression. We must resist their socialist and collectivist attack on the country throw them out of power before it is too late.
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A CONSERVATIVE:
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensur More..e their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance — now Joe gets it, too.
He prepares his morning breakfast: bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment checks because some stupid liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the taxpayer funded roads.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans.
The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that the beloved conservatives have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”
QB…You have sunk to a new intellectual low…and reveal a total LACK of knowledge about history!!!
“. He prolonged and deepened the disaster for a decade until WWII came along.”
FDR’s policies helped SHRINK unemployment from 25% to 15%…AFTER the disastrous economic policy of 3 consecutive idiot repubs…Warren “the crook” Harding…”Silent” Cal Coolidge and the bumbling Hoover.
In the late 30’s AFTER Roosevelts policies had helped decrease unemployment..15% was still not acceptable but then the Repubs became obsessed once again with balancing the budget which STOPPED the growth in employment until WWII came along.
WWII WAS THE LARGEST GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROGRAM IN THE HISTORY OF OUR NATION AND YES IT CREATED FULL EMPLOYMENT.
The record is clear QB…how about educating yourself on something besides the “I got mine screw you” policies of the right. Perhaps..although I doubt it..you could wrap your mind around Norton Garfinkle’s..A Harvard Economist..excellent book..”The Gospel of Wealth Versus the American Dream.”
Then you’ll see from the ACTUAL government data what a disaster the Repub “supply side” economic principles have been compared to the Dem “Keynsian” policies.
Two fing DISASTERS under Repub leadership…you people are literally insane if you think doing the same thing over and over again is somehow going to produce a different result!!!
ruk,
Get out of the sweat lodge once in a while as bilgey would say. You are displaying your ignorance and ideological blindness. Read some honest accounts like Burt Folsom and Amity Schlaes. FDR and his brainless trust based their whacko schemes on complete misunderstanding of their situation – like the myth of underconsumption – and pursued ad hoc policies that were not only blatantly unconstituional but disastrous failures even according to his own Treasury Sec.
Compulsory industry codes and price agreements, massively fraudulent welfare and makework projects that led to deep and permanent corruption, insane tax rates. A crazy system of agricultural manipulation that led to artificial surpluses and shortages. Jailing small businessmen and putting them out of business and their employees outbof work for not raising prices. Killing air force pilots because he ignored warnings against making them responsible for mail delivery. Building white elephant model towns intended to relocate all the farmers his policies dislocated.
It goes on and on. You can’t seriously defend that mess. FDR prolonged and worsened the depression for years with his nutty schemes.
Comments disappearing. Oh well. Ruk you are an ignorant fool.
Oddball, I won’t waste the time to tell a whole parallel tale more reflective of reality than your fairytale. But here are some hints of the truth.
One typical liberal hates and resents his boss and takes every chance to put down his employer – and all risk taking hardworking people who start and run businesses – never appreciating the fact thAt they providebpeople like him with good paying jobs, without which he would be living in a hut catering acorns.
Instead of appreciating the opportuinties he is provided by others’ hard work and savings, he nurses resentment and votes for demogogues who promise to punish the greedy bosses, raise their taxes and give the money to the resentful and envious employee. He also demands minimum pay, onerous work rules compelled by government imposed unions, and a thousand other measures to make things more “fair.”
Then one day when the burdens of taxes and unnecessary regulations and mandates finally overwhelm his employer, he goes to work and is called into a meeting where it is announced that the company can noblonfer survive and is going out of business.
The ungrateful liberal blames his greedy boss and imagines he is retired to a tropic island with all the money he somehow made by “putting his employees out of work.” He joins a group to protest jobs “being shipped overseas” and agitating for still higher taxes on “the rich” as well as import restrictions. Liberal politicians also promise prosperity for all through massive newneslfare state expansions and resentful liberal sings Happy Days Are Here Again when they sweep into full power.
But all that does is deepen the recession into a depression. Resentful liberal spends therest of his days taking welfare and complaining about the rich over beer and cigarettes at a grimy tavern down the street.
Republican Presidents create Economic depressions, and lying Morons, like Quarterbrain, who has pretended to be a Lawyer, always defend the creators of the Economic Depressions, and attack the Democratic Presidents who bring us out of the Republican Depressions.
Right wing fools get their “information” from fiction writers like Amity Schlaes.
Amity Shlaes failed to use historically valid statistics, cherry picked statistics that confirmed her bias, and ignored statistics that clearly and undeniably refuted her predetermined falsehoods.
Amity Shlaes is a FICTION writer who doesn’t know anything about history and knows even LESS about economics.
Even most right wingers have spent their lives claiming that World War II was what got US completely out of the Republican Great Depression. But curiously those same right wingers fail to recognize, as “rukidding” carefully explains:
“WWII WAS THE LARGEST GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROGRAM IN THE HISTORY OF OUR NATION AND YES IT CREATED FULL EMPLOYMENT.”
Oh so WWII solved the depression. Guess it wasntbthe Raw Deal after all. FDR was brilliant. He waged a War on Business as his economic plan. What an idea. Keep putting new and higher taxes on them in the belief that it will force them to invest and expand. Put small dr cleaners in jail for not charged the higher prices fixed by bigger competitors. He was a true genius.
Did you know he sometimes set prices based his lucky numbers. He used his whole welfare and makework program structure corruptly to buy votes and enforce loyalty. He used the IRS to attack political opposition. He gave us a giant ponzi scheme and was too stupid to realize it could never work long term. He was thevworst president in our history when you look at the facts objectively. His own advisors started to conclude he was dangerously irrational in his second term. He completely blew things up with his crazy gold and silver schemes.
Harding and Coolidge by contrast kept taxes low and, along with better monetary policy, the economy growing and prospering. The only good thing FDR did was began to lower tariffs. Btw Harding was in no way a crook. You display complete ignorance by repeating that liberal old wives’ tale.
Oddball, I won’t waste the time to tell a whole parallel tale more reflective of reality than your fairytale. But here are some hints of the truth.
War Criminal Wannabe, I won’t waste my time reading the fantasies of someone who thinks Sarah Palin is the real deal.
Truly, you aren’t worth my time.
Democratic President FDR’s “New Deal” reduced unemployment by 40% and put America back on a path to recovering from the Republican created Great Depression.
Democratic President FDR’s government stimulus was the key to recovery, the only thing WWII did was create a need for an even more massive government stimulus.
That massive government stimulus accelerated our climbing out of the Republican Great Depression.
But the government stimulus that got US out of the Depression could have just as effectively been hiring Americans to build roads and bridges and farm equipment and been just as successful as the government stimulus that hired soldiers to fight and Americans to build war machines.
In fact, a massive domestic government stimulus would have been more effective in creating a ‘return on investment’ (R.O.I.) because a new road and new bridge can provide economic benefits for decades, but a bomb can only be used once.