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Sarah Palin Tanking Among Moderates, Independents

This isn’t terribly surprising but it’s noteworthy: Whatever successes Sarah Palin is having among Republicans, she’s absolutely tanking among independents and moderates.

The internals of the new ABC News/Washington Post poll find:

* Only 37% of independents think she’s qualified for the presidency, barely more than a third.

* Only 30% of self-described moderates think she’s qualified, less than a third.

* Only 38% of moderates view her favorably, versus 58% who view her unfavorably.

Meanwhile, the new CNN poll finds that only 29% of independents think she’s qualified.

This points to the deepening isolation of Palin Nation — it’s kind of the polling equivalent of her decision to conduct her book tour almost entirely in the Real America.

It also highlights an interesting conundrum she faces as she seeks to maintain a national profile. Palin and her ghostwriters have successfully resorted to the most harsh and lurid attacks on Obama to break through into the national conversation (the death panels being only the most prominent example). But those same tactics are severly complicating her ability to broaden her appeal, to the degree that she even wants to do this in the first place.

One other suggestive finding: Palin has significantly higher favorability ratings among men (48%) than among women (39%), and only a third of women think she’s qualified to be the first female president.

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Posted by Greg Sargent | 11/16/2009, 03:04 PM EST | Categories: independents, polling

44 Responses

  1. mike from Arlington | November 16th, 2009 at 03:07 pm

    Palin/Cheney 2012!

  2. mike from Arlington | November 16th, 2009 at 03:08 pm

    Palin/Bachmann or even Palin/Allan Keyes would be neat.

  3. Greg Sargent | November 16th, 2009 at 03:09 pm

    Liz or Dick?

  4. Liam | November 16th, 2009 at 03:11 pm

    Polls Schmolls!

    O Ye Of Little Faith.

    Quitter Palin’s Witch Doctor will cure all those doubters . You Betcha!

  5. mike from Arlington | November 16th, 2009 at 03:12 pm

    Laugh, I was just reading up on Keyes on Wikipedia. He was roommates with Bill Kristol in College. Just one questions.

    WTF were those two drinking in college that turned them both into raging lunatics?

  6. sbj | November 16th, 2009 at 03:15 pm

    “This points to the deepening isolation of Palin Nation — it’s kind of the polling equivalent of her decision to conduct her book tour almost entirely in the Real America.”

    The link below tries to make the point that Palin is adopting a Walmart strategy – she is consolidating her base by concentrating on flyover America. The next step would be to reach out to suburban America. “Conquer from the heartland out.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/sarah_palins_walmart_strategy.html

    (Aside to Greg: Note, too that Palin will be heading to Noblesville, Indiana – Bayh country.)

  7. mike from Arlington | November 16th, 2009 at 03:16 pm

    Heh. Well. I wouldn’t be surprised if Liz ran.

    But, Palin running with Dick would be about the same as when Dubya ran with Cheney to fill up the utter lack of national security and foreign policy cred Dubya was without.

    Palin is the female Bush imho.

    Only difference is Bush waiting until he was President to completely make an *** of himself. Palin did that during the 2008 campaign.

  8. rukidding | November 16th, 2009 at 03:21 pm

    Greg…are you trying to ruin SBJ’s Monday. He has already posted that we are all paying far too much attention to a “PRIVATE” citizen.

    In the interest of fair play Greg I hope you’ll consider posting about Huckabee, Pawlenty,Gingrich, or Romney if they should write a book..and then kick it off with a nationwide (well at least “real” America” tour replete with an appearance on Oprah.
    LMAO

  9. mike from Arlington | November 16th, 2009 at 03:32 pm

    The Walmart strategy indeed.

    A company that destroys small business, which by the way created 60% – 80% of the new jobs in America, and destroys our middle to lower class job market by taking advantage of the lax WTO laws and allows countries like China to pay employees 30 cents and hour leaving our businesses no room to compete at all.

    Yeah, great comparison. What a bunch of bozo’s.

    Walmart is on a conquest to cheapen the entire country and make us all dependent on cheap **** by driving out all competition and destroying the American work force.

  10. sbj | November 16th, 2009 at 03:33 pm

    I just don’t like Mondays…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yteMugRAc0&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-HM

  11. Gasman | November 16th, 2009 at 03:35 pm

    sbj,
    Palin is also heading to my hometown, Ft. Wayne, IN, the conservative armpit of the nation.

    She is marketing herself only to the fringe. The notion that she can pick off demographic groups one at a time is laughable. The positions she takes to appeal to the teabaggers alienates anyone with a brain. If she then tries to win over people with functioning frontal lobes, she will alienate the sheeple.

    Hers is a recipe for political failure.

  12. Liam | November 16th, 2009 at 03:39 pm

    Those Poll results are skewed, because Independents and Moderates were not asked if they could tolerate having Quitter Palin in office for just two years; tops!.

  13. sbj | November 16th, 2009 at 03:40 pm

    “Hers is a recipe for political failure.”

    Could very well be. I think she’s a non-factor and, at this point, she’s just out to make some money. I wish we’d spend less time analyzing her political viability.

  14. TheraP | November 16th, 2009 at 03:42 pm

    Palin will believe only the adoring crowds that gather to pay her homage. She will deny polls as they will not accord with the adoration of her acolytes. She’s a religion! And only the faithful will come. Who else will bother? She’s not even worth picketing.

    Nice to get these numbers – for those of us in the reality-based community. Which does seem to be expanding!

  15. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 03:47 pm

    “One other suggestive finding: Palin has significantly higher favorability ratings among men (48%) than among women (39%), and only a third of women think she’s qualified to be the first female president.”

    That’s cause we don’t swoon whenever she wiggles.

  16. Liam | November 16th, 2009 at 03:48 pm

    Palin 2012.

    I am down with that. Iowa Democrats should attend the Republican caucuses in Iowa, and help to get Sarah off to a great start.

  17. oddjob | November 16th, 2009 at 03:49 pm

    But those same tactics are severly complicating her ability to broaden her appeal, to the degree that she even wants to do this in the first place.

    As I’ve stated before, her behavior makes zero sense if she’s trying to lead a political movement to a White House victory, but her behavior makes complete sense if she’s trying to be a political celebrity milking her celebrity status for every last penny she can get from it.

  18. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 03:51 pm

    oddjob – totally true.

    And I think she loves the money that’s coming in now.

  19. oddjob | November 16th, 2009 at 03:51 pm

    As weird as it is, Bachmann’s behavior makes more sense for the leader of a political movement.

  20. Gasman | November 16th, 2009 at 03:53 pm

    sbj,
    “I wish we’d spend less time analyzing her political viability.”

    It would be easier to do if her “book tour” wasn’t tracing a path through what were the last election’s battle ground states.

    She is the one that is keeping her hand in politics, from injecting herself into the NY 23rd race and taking lots of lying cheap shots at President Obama – and many others.

    All she has to do is withdraw from politics and stay out of the limelight. Nobody is forcing her onto the national stage.

  21. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 03:56 pm

    ‘All she has to do is withdraw from politics and stay out of the limelight. Nobody is forcing her onto the national stage.”

    Yep and nope.

  22. cdub | November 16th, 2009 at 03:57 pm

    Men like her more because they want to bang her.

  23. Liam | November 16th, 2009 at 04:00 pm

    People tend to overlook how she came to national prominence.

    She was a beauty pagent runner up in Alaska, where Men outnumber women, by at least two to one. Look at how Rich Lowery reacted to her, with his review of her debate performance. It was all about her wink and twinkle,(as in Twinky) and sparkles flying all around the room, and men sitting up straighter on their couches around the nation.(Think about that for a moment; Rich Lowery was saying that he thought she was winking at him, and he straight away became fully erect, without the assistance of a Viagra booster shot).

    Palin was voted for Governor by a bunch of horny men in Alaska. Being picked by McCain to be his running mate, was not something Sarah accomplished. It was just a Hail Mary play by McCain to see if he could lure over some women voters, who were disappointed that Hillary was not on the Democratic ticket.

  24. rukidding | November 16th, 2009 at 04:03 pm

    @Tena & Cdub…as a man I have to say you are hitting below the belt…literally!:-)

    Although I don’t find her a bit attractive and the tacky wink was so over the top…who am I too judge because I confessed to thinking Dana Perino was hot. Yes I know…all my taste is in my mouth…lol

  25. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 04:04 pm

    “Men like her more because they want to bang her.”

    Women can see through her – we’re used to her type. Seriously – my mom warned me about women like her. She’ll stab you in the back while she’s smiling to your face.

  26. Chris A. | November 16th, 2009 at 04:04 pm

    The key thing to note is despite that, 60% of Conservatives have a favorable view of her. That’s enough to get her elected the republican nominee.

  27. Gasman | November 16th, 2009 at 04:06 pm

    What is telling from the ABC poll numbers is that among Republicans, 24% said that they “Definitely {do} Not Support” her and 36% think that she is NOT qualified to be president.

    If she can’t win over her own people, just exactly how is she going to engineer this victory?

  28. Liam | November 16th, 2009 at 04:15 pm

    @Rukidding

    Dana Perino is Tracy Flick.

  29. Joe Lieberman | November 16th, 2009 at 04:16 pm

    “This isn’t terribly surprising but it’s noteworthy: Whatever successes Sarah Palin is having among Republicans, she’s absolutely tanking among independents and moderates.”

    Just like the Democrats.

    The Obama Record: Record unemployment, record deficits, no legislative accomplishments.

  30. Liam | November 16th, 2009 at 04:18 pm

    Joe Lamebrainman is back.

  31. Gasman | November 16th, 2009 at 04:24 pm

    Liam,
    Cut “Joe Lieberman” some slack. He is obviously a teabagger so we know that he is a little slow on the uptake. His only talking points are the ones he gets at the rallies.

    It must be so embarrassing to be so unprepared when discussing current events.

  32. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 04:48 pm

    Rukidding – I have to admit that I’ve always thought Dana Perino is pretty.

    Her pretty little head is empty, but I think she’s pretty.

  33. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 04:53 pm

    “His only talking points are the ones he gets at the rallies. ”

    Obviously, since he’s so deluded he thinks the deficit is Obama’s fault.

    How do they segment their little brains so that they ignore the fact that when George Bush and the Repug Congress took over in 2000, they were handed the biggest surplus in history – thanks to Bill Clinton. They went through that in about 2 years and then started borrowing money.

    I never heard any complaints out of the Repugs or the trolls for the money that the Repugs went through like it was old newspapers. They just pounded it down sandholes in the desert in Iraq, shoveled cash to war lords to get them to stop shooting at us, let Ahmad Chalabi walk off with god knows how much until they were responsible for the biggest deficit in history.

    And Obama just inherited that record deficit the Repugs amassed. The Repugs did that. Get it, Joe? The Repugs.

  34. Tena | November 16th, 2009 at 04:58 pm

    I honestly do not find Sarah Palin at all attractive and never have. She looks like a younger Leona Helmsley to me. The mean just sort of rises to the surface, no matter how hard you try to hide it.

  35. quarterback | November 16th, 2009 at 05:40 pm

    “The mean just sort of rises to the surface, no matter how hard you try to hide it.”

    Only the mean in yourself. Seriously, if you see Palin as mean you are not living in reality. Call her the unqualified mayor of a small town or whatever, but calling her mean is just ridiculous. Look in the mirror to see the kind your mother warned you about.

  36. Gasman | November 16th, 2009 at 05:46 pm

    quarterback,
    Yet another of your classic variations on “I know you are, but what am I?”

    How do you keep your rapier like wit so sharp?

  37. quarterback | November 16th, 2009 at 05:57 pm

    And, like clockwork, Gassy appears with his school-yard taunt. Truly, I don’t know how I can hope to keep up with such an advanced intellect as you.

    But it’s “rapier-like.” I know what a stickler you are about language and all.

  38. Gasman | November 16th, 2009 at 06:03 pm

    QB the TB,
    And I believe I have demonstrated how sloppy you are with language.

  39. quarterback | November 16th, 2009 at 06:17 pm

    Oh, right, it’s “blatantly obvious”! LOL

    You have never demonstrated anything but your idiocy. And the poisonous hatred and dishonesty you nurture.

  40. Gasman | November 17th, 2009 at 01:05 am

    QB the TB,
    Still can’t cop to the intellectually lazy use of your preferred insults, can you? You get caught and you run away. You hypocritically slam others for misusing language, why are you exempt from scrutiny?

  41. News Reference | November 17th, 2009 at 03:05 am

    Republican Palin is taking a page from the WalMart strategy?

    You mean the WalMart strategy that handed Communist China our manufacturing base?

    The WalMart strategy of low-wages that are so low that WalMart employees qualify for food stamps?

    The WalMart strategy that, as “mike from Arlington” points out, “destroys small [American] business[es], which by the way created 60% – 80% of the new jobs in America”?

    Why does Republican Sarah Palin hate America?

    Is it because Republican Palin is a secessionist lover that wants to cut America up into pieces just like the terrorists?

  42. quarterback | November 17th, 2009 at 09:38 am

    “You get caught and you run away. You hypocritically slam others for misusing language, why are you exempt from scrutiny?”

    Just can’t stop yourself, can you?

    When you show that I misused language, I’ll be happy to discuss it. You haven’t shown anything. Vague assertions about terms I don’t even use are just more evidence of your own dishonesty and ineptitude.

  43. News Reference | November 18th, 2009 at 09:39 pm

    “Palin’s Blame Game

    Palin will sexualize herself but we are bad if we notice. She puts her children in front of the camera, but we are bad if we talk about them. She’s a good Christian, so we should believe all the mean things she says about people. She wants to sell lots of books but doesn’t want to go to big cities. She wanted to help Alaska so she resigned as its governor. She wants to be in the media spotlight, but she criticizes the media. It’s an endless and self-sustaining loop of blame and victimhood.”

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/18/palins_blame_game/

  44. Joseph Kusnell | December 1st, 2009 at 05:14 pm

    Nice try kids. But 38% disapproval leaves 62% unaccounted for. So if Sarah’s favorability rating is 23% after being lied about, bashed about, ridiculed about by liberal losers and she still have 23% approval PLUS 20% UNDECDIED and another what, 17% that wants to hear MORE before they decide – and she’s just getting started – BEWARE!

    Oh yes, you can rip her and you better do it often because she is coming on strong. She is an American. She is a Patriot. She is a good person. She is an executive, you remember, unlike Obama she actually ran a few things like being a mayor and a Governor!!!

    Send a few bucks to Sarah folks. She is good for what ails this country and that’s LIBERAL LIARS.

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