Comments on: Obtained: Federal Agency’s Memo Warning Of “Left Wing Extremists”

By: TH

TH — Mon, 11 May 2009 17:23:01 +0000

“These left wing asswipes are still bitching and moaning about the right. Every left wing communist pig from Obama to Pelosi has the same anti American, _pro globalist_, pro illegal mexican agenda. In the meantime, they’re doing their damndest to silence every taxpaying, law abiding American.”

LOL. I think it is hilarious that you mention globalization when some of the most fervent ANTI-globalist people are labeled as “left-wing…” maybe I’m missing something.

By: Robert Wayne

Robert Wayne — Thu, 07 May 2009 18:44:03 +0000

These left wing asswipes are still bitching and moaning about the right. Every left wing communist pig from Obama to Pelosi has the same anti American, pro globalist, pro illegal mexican agenda. In the meantime, they’re doing their damndest to silence every taxpaying, law abiding American.

By: r

Thu, 07 May 2009 00:22:01 +0000

1. this report is no where near as negligent or offensive as the right wing extremist report. this report refers to animal rights activists throughout, with a couple references to environmentalists and anarchists opposed to globalism (ps the entire democratic party is comprise of globalists, and Ill bet most are meat eaters. i think they’re are ok even if they do offend PETA and the G20 protesters.). it talks about possible cyber attacks. Huh! uh-oh!

the right wing extremist report refers to returning veterans, pro lifers, and falsely describes people concerned with illegal immigration “anti immigration.” It associates them with radical, conspiracy driven militias overthrowing the government. it mentions the threat of people who talk about the US constitution and states rights

(are we out of our goddamn minds? a federal agency is targeting people who prefer state governments and the US constitution? and normal people are ok with this?)

re-read and compare both reports, without bias. I did – they’re both offensive. one, considerably more so.

2.even if these reports were totally equivalent, is compiling reports that target phantom groups, ideas and associations a healthy practice for the federal government? or is maybe (you know, just a little bit) completely and utterly fascist and un American?

what a joke. is this really an argument to counter the concern that the DHS is targetting ideas?

if you’re on the left, you should be outraged as well.

By: Drew

Drew — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:00:48 +0000

Leftwing Extremists
Likely to Increase Use of Cyber
Attacks over the Coming Decade

Because thats the same type of report as

Rightwing Extremism: Current
Economic and Political Climate Fueling
Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment

What the problem is is the wording in both reports… Jenny is right… the right wing one is a very vague piece over the left wing one

By: jenny

jenny — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:16:58 +0000

I’ve read the left wing extremist report, and no, it did not contain the same vague, generalizations the “right wing extremist” report did. It didn’t lump in people who might belong to PETA, or have bumper stickers about “Earth Day”, who might protest against a company for polluting water, etc.. it didn’t even reference anti-semetic and other such extremists. Sorry, but you’re completely ignoring the pertinent concerns about a report that violates our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms. I’m a democrat, and I am incensed by the DHS report, that seeks to intimidate a majority of American citizens, who express legitimate concerns, which they have every right to do. I believe Napolitano needs to be fired from the position of DHS secretary, she is corrupt.

By: hermesten

hermesten — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:56:03 +0000

These are not “internal” assessments. I work in the electric utility industry and see these kinds of security bulletins all the time. In fact, I came across the very same “leftwing extremist” document, linked to above, in our company’s print queue some time ago, and like GM, found myself marveling at the plainly propagandistic tone and lack of subtlety.

By: 1AntiSocialist

1AntiSocialist — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:58:44 +0000

For anyone who gives a rat’s a** about this country, READ THE CONSTITUTION! It would be nice if congress and the almighty POTUS would. But on the bright side, this nation did manage to survive Woodrow Wilson’s “rule”, his Committee on Public Information, his American Protection League and his resulting political prisoners. That’s what happens when there’s no respect for the Constitution (Wilson openly disregarded it). Liberals need to stop revising history and start re-reading history; might actually learn a few valuable lessons and avoid some costly mistakes.

By: GM

GM — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:33:20 +0000

THe RW assesment is 7 pages, the RW assesment is 10. Both are short on substance and meaning and useless for any law enforcement employee. the contents are a disgrace and a seventh grader could have “assesed” the topics better. If this is typical product of DHS Threat analysis division with cooperation of the FBI! then we are in alot of trouble.
Reminds me of a essay paper due in three hours and hmmmm.. I need a catchy title.

By: wizacre

wizacre — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:19:09 +0000

To keep the discussion simple; one only has to read both reports and see that the leftwing report is general and limited, whereas the rightwing report is more specific and broad. It would not be hard to report on both extremist “groups” in a fair assessment. But that was not done, I believe on purpose rather than by accident or incompetence. If you’re leftwing, and can’t see that, or have to support your dogma by bringing up the Bush presidency, etc., then you should really examine how you rationalize your pre-confirmed beliefs. I think the concern is that the Govt is subtly identifying “problem” groups in a political/ideology context. I see a related action when the Govt “fires” the head of a private company (GM), justifying this action on bailout funds. We will soon see where the Govt will control the banks in a similar manner, to the extent the Govt won’t accept repayment of bailout funds (or will restrict repayment on the grounds of keeping “stability”). Bank execs that toe-the-line will keep their jobs, other’s won’t. As the saying goes; Beware when the Camel’s nose is in the tent.

By: Nathan Hale

Nathan Hale — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:59:15 +0000

there is a new PSA out there on ABC NEWS, more or less warning bloggers about what we write. It’s another case of ; “be careful what you say, kamerade” bullshit from Janet Napoletano.

are you guys certain that Chertoff isn’t still running the goddamned gestapo agency still??

this Obombanation really is more of the same. more of the ******* same.

By: E V

E V — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:31:59 +0000

Mr. Josey Wales (great movie by the way), were you just as upset and willing to take the government back during the 8 years under Bush? Remember, the attack on civil liberties (wiretappings, infiltration of anti-war groups by the government, etc) in the name of security and the expansion of the federal government began under Bush (Medicare drug plan, increase in discretionary spending, increase in federal subsidies, initial $700 billion bailout plan, etc). While I do not support Obama, I fail to see that there is really a difference between what Bush did and what Obama is doing. I don’t recall the Right (except for Ron Paul and libertarians) being so upset during Bush’s presidency and as a result the protests of the tea baggers sound like sour grapes.

By: Josey Wales

Josey Wales — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:24:58 +0000

I guess us right wingers feel that we are “the militia” and it is our civic duty to physically control government. Vandalism and stuff against innocent civilians doesn’t make sense to me. Violence against innocent civilians doesn’t make sense to me. I would never kill someone at an abortion clinic. I am just saying that the average gun owner, the average Texan, believes their is a civic duty to take power away from the government when it is deemed tyrranical. You’re right, my entry is not carefully worded and thought out. This doesn’t come from quotes from newspapers, O’Reilly Factor (O’Reilly is a liberal like Bush), or any other media source. This comes from common sense from the ideas that we inherited from the founders of this country- they were rebels you know. And I don’t want it to change- I don’t want a socialist economy, universal health care, and a “nanny” government to take care of me. I want security of my constitutional rights. Over-taxation impedes my pursuit of happiness. What is happiness? The forefathers meant personal wealth!

By: jbb

jbb — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:00:08 +0000

i’m a little worried about leaving my opinion because it seems that if anyone disagrees with it i’ll just be categorized, stereotyped, attacked, and dismissed. I don’t blog, and have no “hidden” agenda.

After looking at the reports, there does seem to be a difference between the two. The one addressing the “left-wing” extremists does seem to be a bit more carefully worded and thought out. And it doesn’t seem to group in people who obviosily believe in maintstreme ideas who just happen to disagree with current administration. The threats from the rigt wing seem to be more “fear based” (in that they will physically hurt you) compared to a physcologically less fearful “they may conduct cyber-crime” addressed to the left-wings extremists. That’s all. I think that a lot of confusion would have been avoided if the people who wrote the right-wing memo wrote it with the same care as the left-wing memo.

By: Josey Wales

Josey Wales — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:27:46 +0000

I consider myself a right wing guy from Texas and live in the country, but I don’t consider myself violent. I believe that the Bush family are a bunch of rich yankess from New England. I don’t consider him a conservative or identify with them. They’re from Maine, right? Bush went to Yale, right? I am in my late 20s, earn a middle class living (55k/year), and have a master’s degree in science. I am annoyed that people (talk show hosts and supposedly conservative politicians) deny the truth. The Obama admistration has said that we (as in me and my type) cling to our bible and guns (he says that as if he was being offensive). That is true, but it’s not offensive. They said that right wing extremists are getting angry and dangerous. That is true. The conservative media denied these things, so the DHS has to come out and say something about left wing extremists to make it fair. It’s all amusing. Speaking for myself, I own a lot of various legal firearms and ammunition, but I’m not buying right now because the prices are inflated by the nervous people. I am ready, however, to take the power back- so to speak. Many people that I have spoken to could not attend the tea parties because they had to work. And most of us are not rich, but earn a modest income. It’s not a class thing, it’s a a freedom thing and a power thing and we don’t want to live in Sodom and Gemorah. These politicians KNOW that real power comes from the muzzel of a rifle, not some lawyer twisting language and spouting out garbage. A civil war is the worst thing that could ever happen, but the people are not going to tolerate the federal government forcing us to give up our liberties so that we can be safe or that the government can be safe from gun owners and money for the benefit of LOSERS. The Obama administration is buying power by not making anyone pay taxes in my tax bracket (which is most of America). He thinks he can buy my vote, but how is my boss going to pay me my salary? How will I get a job making what I make? Why would anyone want to go into business and take the risks of financial ruin if they won’t ever make much money? Foget all that, those are rhetorical and I’m going off on a tangent. The point is that the true right are not wealthy- they are mostly Christian, mostly fairly successful like myself, and well armed. I have 5 boys- ages 9,8,7,6,and 4. 4 out of 5 can shoot well enough to kill a man and in a few more years they will be as good as me or better. Socialists and communists…be very afraid because it is true…what they say…

By: davepen

davepen — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:22:11 +0000

All this talk of buying guns and ammo…

When last I checked, the purchase of firearms and ammunition was completely legal.

It does appear, however, that the DHS report is having it’s intended effect: the demonization of law-abiding citizens the current administration has deemed troublesome.