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> <channel><title>Comments on: Obama Admin Brushes Off Right Wing&#8217;s Outcry Over Government Health Care &#8220;Propaganda&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:58:10 -0400</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Tatyana Swancutt</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-181518</link> <dc:creator>Tatyana Swancutt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:20:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-181518</guid> <description>hey the post was quite Favourable to me. looking forward to your next post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey the post was quite Favourable to me. looking forward to your next post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: News Reference</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97457</link> <dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97457</guid> <description>Right winger nickleback started with insults, then made &lt;b&gt;demands&lt;/b&gt;, then whined when his insults were turned on him, but continued making demands.Classic right wing thug: Abusive and demands to be in charge.Right wingers think it&#039;s all about them. No. It&#039;s about the more than 44 THOUSAND Americans who die because they lack health insurance. It&#039;s about the more than 14 THOUSAND who lose their health insurance every day.It&#039;s about the lying Republican minority that are obstructing what the majority of this country want.Republican Chuck Grassley spent the entire summer lying about health care. Nobody who was paying attention takes him seriously anymore.Hopefully Iowans were paying attention: &lt;b&gt;Republican Chuck Grassley is a liar&lt;/b&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right winger nickleback started with insults, then made <b>demands</b>, then whined when his insults were turned on him, but continued making demands.</p><p>Classic right wing thug: Abusive and demands to be in charge.</p><p>Right wingers think it&#8217;s all about them. No. It&#8217;s about the more than 44 THOUSAND Americans who die because they lack health insurance. It&#8217;s about the more than 14 THOUSAND who lose their health insurance every day.</p><p>It&#8217;s about the lying Republican minority that are obstructing what the majority of this country want.</p><p>Republican Chuck Grassley spent the entire summer lying about health care. Nobody who was paying attention takes him seriously anymore.</p><p>Hopefully Iowans were paying attention: <b>Republican Chuck Grassley is a liar</b>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ChuckinDenton</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97260</link> <dc:creator>ChuckinDenton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:27:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97260</guid> <description>Hell, I&#039;m tired of getting Cornyn&#039;s e-mails asking for support.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, I&#8217;m tired of getting Cornyn&#8217;s e-mails asking for support.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97250</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:18:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97250</guid> <description>&quot;We don’t have to dilute or compromise our integrity and our allegiance to truth and accuracy.&quot;Like you did on innumerable occasions like this?http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_false_medicare_claim.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We don’t have to dilute or compromise our integrity and our allegiance to truth and accuracy.&#8221;</p><p>Like you did on innumerable occasions like this?</p><p><a
href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_false_medicare_claim.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_false_medicare_claim.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bernie Latham</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97244</link> <dc:creator>Bernie Latham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97244</guid> <description>rukidding said: &quot;I find that to be a very, very interesting question for thinking progressives. Does the ends justify the means. How far do we go to fight fire with fire.&quot;There&#039;s a key differentiation to be made here.  Acknowledging how our brains actually process information and then formulating &#039;messages&#039; which take this into account doesn&#039;t mean we have to frighten or lie.  Take, for example, the video that was produced by the Obama campaign of his life and background.  I&#039;m pretty sure it drew on the earlier version done by Clinton&#039;s campaign but more importantly, it/they drew on emotional factors the encouraged identification with and empathy for very real aspects of the American story and American hopes.  Contrast that sort of presentation with an unfortunately less effective presentation of dry and abstract facts such as Dems are prone to present (Gore is a prime example).I highly recommend Westen&#039;s The Political Brain and George Lakoff&#039;s books for more on this.We don&#039;t have to dilute or compromise our integrity and our allegiance to truth and accuracy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rukidding said: &#8220;I find that to be a very, very interesting question for thinking progressives. Does the ends justify the means. How far do we go to fight fire with fire.&#8221;</p><p>There&#8217;s a key differentiation to be made here.  Acknowledging how our brains actually process information and then formulating &#8216;messages&#8217; which take this into account doesn&#8217;t mean we have to frighten or lie.  Take, for example, the video that was produced by the Obama campaign of his life and background.  I&#8217;m pretty sure it drew on the earlier version done by Clinton&#8217;s campaign but more importantly, it/they drew on emotional factors the encouraged identification with and empathy for very real aspects of the American story and American hopes.  Contrast that sort of presentation with an unfortunately less effective presentation of dry and abstract facts such as Dems are prone to present (Gore is a prime example).</p><p>I highly recommend Westen&#8217;s The Political Brain and George Lakoff&#8217;s books for more on this.</p><p>We don&#8217;t have to dilute or compromise our integrity and our allegiance to truth and accuracy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97240</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:33:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97240</guid> <description>That was a nice rant, Old News.  But it is nonresponsive.Now can you address the point?  What falsehoods did I state?  Do you deny that Sibeliu&#039;s letter is inaccurate and misleading?  Isn&#039;t the statement I quoted false?You should know something about me, btw.  I couldn&#039;t care less how much you insult me or call me names.  They don&#039;t bother me at all.  Your curses are like blessings to me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a nice rant, Old News.  But it is nonresponsive.</p><p>Now can you address the point?  What falsehoods did I state?  Do you deny that Sibeliu&#8217;s letter is inaccurate and misleading?  Isn&#8217;t the statement I quoted false?</p><p>You should know something about me, btw.  I couldn&#8217;t care less how much you insult me or call me names.  They don&#8217;t bother me at all.  Your curses are like blessings to me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: News Reference</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97233</link> <dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:18:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97233</guid> <description>So nickleback can dish it out but can&#039;t take it?Typical right winger: Insult people and then cry when someone throws your same insult back in your face.Fox Republicans can be so tedious.It&#039;s not just Fox Republicans outright dishonesty, it&#039;s also that&#039;s it&#039;s mixed in with a lot of falsehoods that they fanatically believe, combined with a mindless belligerence.nickleback combines all three: Dishonesty, mixed with a lot of falsehoods he&#039;s actually ignorant enough to believe, combined with toxic anger management issues.After nickleback has repeatedly insulted everyone that doesn&#039;t agree with him, he demands that his falsehoods be accepted as facts, and insists that facts are actually falsehoods.It&#039;s the Murdoch/Beck/Limbaugh right wing world view that is almost indistinguishable from the Taliban&#039;s fanatic belligerence.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So nickleback can dish it out but can&#8217;t take it?</p><p>Typical right winger: Insult people and then cry when someone throws your same insult back in your face.</p><p>Fox Republicans can be so tedious.</p><p>It&#8217;s not just Fox Republicans outright dishonesty, it&#8217;s also that&#8217;s it&#8217;s mixed in with a lot of falsehoods that they fanatically believe, combined with a mindless belligerence.</p><p>nickleback combines all three: Dishonesty, mixed with a lot of falsehoods he&#8217;s actually ignorant enough to believe, combined with toxic anger management issues.</p><p>After nickleback has repeatedly insulted everyone that doesn&#8217;t agree with him, he demands that his falsehoods be accepted as facts, and insists that facts are actually falsehoods.</p><p>It&#8217;s the Murdoch/Beck/Limbaugh right wing world view that is almost indistinguishable from the Taliban&#8217;s fanatic belligerence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97231</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97231</guid> <description>How about this one?  Were Obama&#039;s dishonest attacks on McCain&#039;s health insurance plan an example of this vulgar marketing-driven politics?http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/02/AR2009060201491.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this one?  Were Obama&#8217;s dishonest attacks on McCain&#8217;s health insurance plan an example of this vulgar marketing-driven politics?</p><p><a
href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/02/AR2009060201491.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/02/AR2009060201491.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97227</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:03:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97227</guid> <description>Is this an example of the kind of vulgar, emotion-based messaging you are talking about -- lies that appeal to the worst instincts, marketing messages based on falsehoods?http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_false_medicare_claim.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this an example of the kind of vulgar, emotion-based messaging you are talking about &#8212; lies that appeal to the worst instincts, marketing messages based on falsehoods?</p><p><a
href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_false_medicare_claim.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_false_medicare_claim.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97221</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97221</guid> <description>You just keep me laughing this morning, amk.  I ask whether any of you can address the facts I cited, and you respond with a lame and irrelevant rhetorical question.Sibelius&#039;s entire defense is that the HHS site isn&#039;t intended to lobby Congress.  It DOESN&#039;T MATTER whether anyone thinks public or &quot;Wall Street&quot; lobbying is good or bad.  She said that isn&#039;t their aim, and it obviously is.So you lost YET ANOTHER factual argument and are left with your pathetic name calling and chest thumping.  I put up and I shut you up.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just keep me laughing this morning, amk.  I ask whether any of you can address the facts I cited, and you respond with a lame and irrelevant rhetorical question.</p><p>Sibelius&#8217;s entire defense is that the HHS site isn&#8217;t intended to lobby Congress.  It DOESN&#8217;T MATTER whether anyone thinks public or &#8220;Wall Street&#8221; lobbying is good or bad.  She said that isn&#8217;t their aim, and it obviously is.</p><p>So you lost YET ANOTHER factual argument and are left with your pathetic name calling and chest thumping.  I put up and I shut you up.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rukidding</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97220</link> <dc:creator>rukidding</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:51:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97220</guid> <description>Bernie posted this on the prior thread...&quot;Westen argues, and I think he’s right, that we have to become as capable at playing at this stuff as the other side even if we find it rather vulgar.I find that to be a very, very interesting question for thinking progressives.  Does the ends justify the means.  How far do we go to fight fire with fire.I&#039;m certainly comfortable to this point because unlike Fox/Beck/Teabagger/Confederate bilgey&#039;s ad hominem attacks the W.H. has stuck to simply factual stuff.  Do we go as far as Fox and simply make stuff up and show out of date pics and video over a year old presented as if it was shot recently?In other words how &quot;vulgar&quot; do we wish to become?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie posted this on the prior thread&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Westen argues, and I think he’s right, that we have to become as capable at playing at this stuff as the other side even if we find it rather vulgar.</p><p>I find that to be a very, very interesting question for thinking progressives.  Does the ends justify the means.  How far do we go to fight fire with fire.</p><p>I&#8217;m certainly comfortable to this point because unlike Fox/Beck/Teabagger/Confederate bilgey&#8217;s ad hominem attacks the W.H. has stuck to simply factual stuff.  Do we go as far as Fox and simply make stuff up and show out of date pics and video over a year old presented as if it was shot recently?</p><p>In other words how &#8220;vulgar&#8221; do we wish to become?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: amk</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97215</link> <dc:creator>amk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97215</guid> <description>qb, so corporates and wallstreeters lobbying is holy grail and people lobbying their frigging congress critters for themselves is not ? Typical rethug.Know what, elections have consequences and you punk$ lost. So, put up or shut up. You sound stupider with every post proving again Einstein&#039;s point.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>qb, so corporates and wallstreeters lobbying is holy grail and people lobbying their frigging congress critters for themselves is not ? Typical rethug.</p><p>Know what, elections have consequences and you punk$ lost. So, put up or shut up. You sound stupider with every post proving again Einstein&#8217;s point.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97212</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:39:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97212</guid> <description>What are the falsehoods, Old News?  Do you have any facts or just name calling???  Put up or shut up.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the falsehoods, Old News?  Do you have any facts or just name calling???  Put up or shut up.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: quarterback</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97211</link> <dc:creator>quarterback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:38:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97211</guid> <description>So you&#039;ve all taken the time to insult me.But is any one of you able to deny the fact that the HHS webpage does NOT &quot;offer[] citizens the opportunity to tell the President whether they agree with his position,&quot; as the Sibelius letter claims?Is any one of you able to give an explanation for the webpage other than to lobby Congress?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;ve all taken the time to insult me.</p><p>But is any one of you able to deny the fact that the HHS webpage does NOT &#8220;offer[] citizens the opportunity to tell the President whether they agree with his position,&#8221; as the Sibelius letter claims?</p><p>Is any one of you able to give an explanation for the webpage other than to lobby Congress?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: amk</title><link>http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/obama-admin-brushes-off-right-wings-outcry-over-government-health-care-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-97210</link> <dc:creator>amk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:37:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/?p=15824#comment-97210</guid> <description>I keep trying qb, but you keep proving Einstein&#039;s Theory of Relativity that while there is a limit for genius, stupidity knows no limits.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep trying qb, but you keep proving Einstein&#8217;s Theory of Relativity that while there is a limit for genius, stupidity knows no limits.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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