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Glenn Beck’s “Mao” Attack Makes It On To Air Force One

Did a reporter really ask a White House spokesman to respond to Glenn Beck’s attack on White House communications director Anita Dunn for supposedly worshiping Mao Zedong?

Yes. Here’s the exchange with spokesman Bill Burton during the press gaggle today on Air Force One, per the White House transcript:

QUESTION: One more question — have you — do you any comment on Anita Dunn’s belief that Mao is one of her favorite political philosophers?

MR. BURTON: I caught some of that from the Glenn Beck show yesterday, but I don’t think anybody takes it — takes his attacks very seriously. We’re just — you know, we go day to day in this White House trying to ensure that people know the truth about the policies and programs and positions that the President holds, and we’re going to continue to do that.

Burton makes $113,000 per year. Presuming it took him about 30 seconds to answer that question, it cost taxpayers around 10 cents. Not much, but not nothing, either.

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Posted by Greg Sargent | 10/16/2009, 04:27 PM EST | Categories: White House, political media

74 Responses

  1. Ethan | October 16th, 2009 at 04:34 pm

    Any idea who the reporter was?

  2. lmsinca | October 16th, 2009 at 04:37 pm

    I wonder if anyone’s ever asked McCain why he constantly quotes the Chairman? The following quote several times and then the quote about a thousand flowers bloom in reference to Palin or something. Much ado about nothing and a waste of Burton’s time and that reporter’s chance to ask a question.

    “I think we had some difficulties and righted the ship,” McCain told Letterman. “For a while there, I was reminded of the words of Chairman Mao, who said it’s always darkest before it’s totally black.”

  3. Neil | October 16th, 2009 at 04:37 pm

    I believe that all media is not as “balanced” as Time Magazine and some media will evaluate and tell it like it is. If a bona fide journalist writes about Beck’s MCarthy-ite campaign and seizes the narrative regarding Beck’s schtick, it will come under real scrutin, and Fox’s political campaign will be damaged and discredited.

  4. Neil | October 16th, 2009 at 04:39 pm

    It’ll be discussed on Hardball too http://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/4925345665

  5. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 04:43 pm

    Aw come on – who was that little dude in the bow tie in the press corps who wrote for some religious publication who gave Scotty such fits every presser by asking him some off the wall right wing question?

    Every press corps has em.

  6. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 04:43 pm

    Les somebody?

  7. williamc | October 16th, 2009 at 04:49 pm

    “One more question – Glenn Beck last night accused Santa of being a Commie Nazi with his giving of the free toys and dressing in communist red, and the almost 0 emissions car that he drives, do you have any comment on that?”

  8. rukidding | October 16th, 2009 at 04:53 pm

    @Greg…I’m with Ethan. I’d love to know who the reporter was who asked the question? Actually I don’t care so much about the reporter as the organization he represents.

  9. sbj | October 16th, 2009 at 04:58 pm

    One can’t help but wonder if this doesn’t make the score 1-0 FNC over the White House in the newly-announced war?

    “I caught some of that from the Glenn Beck show yesterday”

    We’re paying this guy $113,000 to watch Beck?

  10. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:01 pm

    “We’re paying this guy $113,000 to watch Beck?”

    Of course. Betcha they pay someone twice that just to watch Rush.

    [rollseyes]

  11. Greg Sargent | October 16th, 2009 at 05:04 pm

    I don’t know who the reporter or the news org was…have asked…

  12. sbj | October 16th, 2009 at 05:05 pm

    I read that Soros pays a staff of transcribers to note every little thing that Rush says…

    Re rolling eyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_nkqY6rSk

  13. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:06 pm

    “I read that Soros pays a staff of transcribers to note every little thing that Rush says…

    Re rolling eyes:”

    And last time I checked, George Soros had his own fortune and we don’t pay his employees.

  14. sbj | October 16th, 2009 at 05:08 pm

    “we don’t pay his employees.”

    Hey – that was MY point!

  15. lmsinca | October 16th, 2009 at 05:10 pm

    A little early for Happy Hour, but I sort of enjoyed this story.

    “NEW YORK — One of America’s wealthiest men was among six hedge fund managers and corporate executives arrested Friday in a hedge fund insider trading case that prosecutors say generated more than $25 million in illegal profits and should be a wake-up call for Wall Street.”

    “Raj Rajaratnam, a partner in Galleon Management and a portfolio manager for Galleon Group, a hedge fund with up to $7 billion in assets under management, was accused of conspiring with others to trade based on insider information about several publicly traded companies, including Google Inc.”

    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/raj-rajaratnam-charged-wi_n_323879.html

  16. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:12 pm

    ““NEW YORK — One of America’s wealthiest men was among six hedge fund managers and corporate executives arrested Friday in a hedge fund insider trading case that prosecutors say generated more than $25 million in illegal profits and should be a wake-up call for Wall Street.””

    I saw that. He’s a real looker, too.

  17. Ethan | October 16th, 2009 at 05:14 pm

    “Aw come on – who was that little dude in the bow tie”

    Les Kinsolving, WorldNetDaily
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Kinsolving

  18. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:15 pm

    Ethan – Yes! Les Kensolving – a name right out of a novel or a TV series.

    Thanks.

  19. Ethan | October 16th, 2009 at 05:24 pm

    Most welcome! I used to watch those press briefings with Scott McClellan out of pure entertainment. Yeah, yeah, I’m a bit of a nerd. Valerie Plame, Iraq War, Katrina, Those were the days (not). But I did like to watch b/c Scotty was the kinda guy you love to hate. I also felt bad for him and thought that deep down he didn’t believe half of what he was saying and that he handled himself well against the odds of having to defend Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld…

  20. Liam | October 16th, 2009 at 05:24 pm

    Has SBJ done his daily duty to Protect all White Americans from Black Racism? He can not let down his guard now, or we are all doomed. Getting off his lazy arse, and going out to vote against Obama, to save us all from Black Racism, was a great first step by SBJ, but I am afraid that his old lazy habits of not even voting, might overtake him, and then all White Americans will be enslaved for ever.

    Keep reminding SBJ to stay vigilant.

  21. Gasman | October 16th, 2009 at 05:27 pm

    Burton’s simpler answer:
    “Who is the one with a copy of Mao’s Little Red Book?”

  22. Ethan | October 16th, 2009 at 05:29 pm

    Ha!

    More idiocy — and a home run response from Burton — from today’s press gaggle:

    Q What does the President think about the Justice of the Peace in Louisiana who won’t marry interracial couples?

    DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY BILL BURTON: I’ve seen the story and I’ve looked into this a little bit. And I found that actually the children of biracial couples can do pretty good. So in terms of anything else I just think it’s something that they’re dealing with locally.

    Connecting the dots, it’s pretty clear who the child of a biracial couple is that he’s referring to…..

  23. Ethan | October 16th, 2009 at 05:30 pm

    Great weekend everyone. ;)

  24. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:35 pm

    “Most welcome! I used to watch those press briefings with Scott McClellan out of pure entertainment”

    I was part of the original FirstDraft group and Holden blogged every single presser every single day. He was the expert of existence on those pressers. So you weren’t the only one, by miles.

  25. Baby Hugo | October 16th, 2009 at 05:43 pm

    If you are upset that people ask questions about the politics of the Obama Administration, maybe you should go the Hugo Chavez route and start silencing your media critic (note the singular). Of course I think the Obama Admin is already talking about that.

    And whatever they are paying Burton, it is too much. That guy makes Robert Gibbs look like he has half a brain. By the way, wasn’t Obama’s dad a communist? And didn’t his parents meet in Russian class? I guess this is why he is so sensitive about the topic.

  26. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 05:43 pm

    Tena:
    “And last time I checked, George Soros had his own fortune and we don’t pay his employees.”

    You REALLY think not? If that is actually the case, it’s probably because Soros hasn’t come up with a way to stick his minions on the Fed payroll yet.

    Without Government subsidies, Liberalism would be akin to the Whig party.

  27. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:46 pm

    So true = all those liberal insurance companies that are exempt from the anti-trust laws, and all those liberal corporations that get loads of government tax subsidies, and all those liberal billionaires who get massive tax write offs, and all those liberal red states that get more of our tax dollars from DC than they send to DC in tax dollars.

    Itza crime I tellz ya!

  28. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 05:48 pm

    Ethan:(quoting Burton)
    “And I found that actually the children of biracial couples can do pretty good. So in terms of anything else I just think it’s something that they’re dealing with locally.”

    Connecting the dots, it’s pretty clear who the child of a biracial couple is that he’s referring to…..”

    Both Burton and yourself are being mighty generous here.
    Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama,Senior weren’t a “couple” for very long at all.

    Whatever Obama might have obtained from the biracialism of his parentage is mostly due to good Mr.Soetero.

  29. Liam | October 16th, 2009 at 05:52 pm

    Bilgeman, you treasonous fraud. You said you want the South to leave the Union now, so begone you Non-American.

  30. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:52 pm

    “Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama,Senior weren’t a “couple” for very long at all.”

    ***GASP*** – maybe they never were! Maybe he’s not really half black at all.

    OMG!

  31. Liam | October 16th, 2009 at 05:54 pm

    Baby Parents met as a Donkey Act, in Tijuana. He got his Half *** ways from his Jack *** father.

  32. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 05:54 pm

    Tena:
    “and all those liberal red states that get more of our tax dollars from DC than they send to DC in tax dollars”

    I think that you happen to live in one of those net tax-gain red states: Texas, so what’s with this “our tax dollars” bit?

    And as you might know, there’s more than a few Texans who would happily secede from the Union.

    Occupation after an illegal war of conquest is an expensive proposition, don’t'cha know?

    You moonbats howl about the costs of it in Iraq and in “Palestine” all the time, but somehow have a great big deaf and blind spot when it comes to the Confederacy.

  33. Liam | October 16th, 2009 at 05:56 pm

    Greg, Fix the damn filter on this site.

    Baby Parents met as a Donkey Act, in Tijuana. He got his Half @SS ways from his Jack @SS father.

  34. Liam | October 16th, 2009 at 05:58 pm

    Bilgeman wants out of the United States. Wave by by to him.

    Who the hell does he think is stopping from leaving. None of us have put an anchor on his worthless Arse.

    Off you go, you racist state loving hate monger.

  35. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:58 pm

    “And as you might know, there’s more than a few Texans who would happily secede from the Union.”

    What’s Texas got to do with it? It gets back $.90 on every dollar it sends to DC. It’s a purple state that does not get federal welfare.

  36. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 05:59 pm

    Tena:
    “***GASP*** – maybe they never were! Maybe he’s not really half black at all”

    Settle down, snookums. I’m pretty sure that he is half Black.

    But that’s really not what’s important. What IS important is if he’s REALLY Hawaiian.

    He could help out ever so much by releasing his vault-copy certification of live birth instead of spending millions to keep it secret.

  37. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 05:59 pm

    And Texas has no legal right to secede. No state does.

    That was settled 150 years ago, approx.

  38. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 06:01 pm

    Liam:
    “Bilgeman wants out of the United States. Wave by by to him”

    Ah, good! When will you be emigrating from Confederat land?

    Y’all DON’T come back now, heah?

  39. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 06:01 pm

    You mean the same certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii that I have?

    He’s showed it. His looks a lot better than mine. Mine’s about 3 inches square, white printing on black.

    But it got me a passport, no problemo.

  40. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 06:02 pm

    “Ah, good! When will you be emigrating from Confederat land?”

    Your turn to settle down, snookums. There is no Confederate land, except in your head and you need to stop listening to those voices – they really don’t mean you well.

  41. ChuckinDenton | October 16th, 2009 at 06:08 pm

    Hmmm, my Uncle learned Russian in the Air Force and worked for the CIA-he musta been a spy!

  42. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 06:10 pm

    Tena:
    “You mean the same certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii that I have?

    He’s showed it. His looks a lot better than mine. Mine’s about 3 inches square, white printing on black”.

    That would be the one that looks like THIS:

    http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

    …as opposed to the computer-generated “certificate” that he released, which was this:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg

    I should correct my language, because it’s significant to the issue.

    You will note that the 1963 document above is the “Certificate of Live Birth”, whereas the computer-generated document Obama released is a “Certification of Live Birth”.

    Acoording to more engaged “Birthers” than myself, the “Certification” is merely an abstract that attests that there is SOME document on file at the Hawaii Birth Records office, but not exactly WHAT is there or what data the document contains.

    And THAT is what this is all about.

  43. lamh31 | October 16th, 2009 at 06:12 pm

    OT,

    ButBWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH!!!!

    Good lord,

    David Gergen just shut this GOP strategist down with a sharp knife ya’ll.

    The repub was going on and on about how it’s a shame that the feds are “paying” people throught organization like Americorps and such to “volunteer” thereby drawing away “volunteers” from local and state orgs. David Gergen asked to respond to that and asked the strategist
    “Terry, how do you feel about the all VOLUNTEER ARMED FORCES, where the gov’t pays people who VOLUNTEER to defend the country?”

    The rethug just stuttered!!!

  44. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 06:19 pm

    Whoa! Nice one LOL!

  45. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 06:22 pm

    You know, it’s a damn good thing my mom never ran for president. Of course, she had blonde hair and blue eyes. But her birth certificate was burned up when the county courthouse in Smith Center, Kansas burned down.

    Kind of like Lucy Ricardo! She had trouble getting her birth certificate and had to get letters to go to Europe with Ricky and the band and the Mertzes, I recall.

    Let’s all tell birth certificate stories. They’re so much fun. Let’s talk about certified fraking copies of things and what that “certified” means, legally. That’s a lot of fun, too.

  46. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 06:23 pm

    Tena:
    “And Texas has no legal right to secede. No state does.”

    Really?

    Then please explain West Virginia.

    48 counties seceded from Virginia during the War for Southern Independence, and were granted statehood by the Feds.

    So counties can legally secede from States, but States cannot legally secede from the nation?

    No, Tena, what was settled was that the Feds conquered us militarily, and have had to occupy us ever since.

    Anytime that that cost becomes greater than you’d like to bear, you’re perfectly free to liberate yourselves from it, and you can thereby emancipate yourselves from the burdensome onus of having to share a nation with us
    “racist state-loving hate-mongers”, (to use Liam’s bigoted perjorative).

    Think about it…what do you have to lose?

  47. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 06:26 pm

    Tena:
    “Let’s all tell birth certificate stories. They’re so much fun. Let’s talk about certified fraking copies of things and what that “certified” means, legally. That’s a lot of fun, too.”

    Better yet, let’s argue beside the point and then ridicule it and shout at it and finally ignore it when it becomes too uncomfortable to grasp what it means…that’s The Plum Line Way, ain’t it?

  48. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 06:30 pm

    ” No, Tena, what was settled was that the Feds conquered us militarily, and have had to occupy us ever since.

    Anytime that that cost becomes greater than you’d like to bear, you’re perfectly free to liberate yourselves from it, and you can thereby emancipate yourselves from the burdensome onus of having to share a nation with us
    “racist state-loving hate-mongers”,”

    Go ahead and try it.

    :)

  49. Tena | October 16th, 2009 at 06:31 pm

    “Better yet, let’s argue beside the point and then ridicule it and shout at it and finally ignore it when it becomes too uncomfortable to grasp what it means”

    You’ve certainly got yourself and the rest of the trolls nailed down.

  50. ChuckinDenton | October 16th, 2009 at 06:38 pm

    Wow, a Birther and Secessionist! I hereby nominate Bilgeman as a GOP candidate for *any* office in the land-the higher up, the better. After all, what do they have to lose?

  51. amk | October 16th, 2009 at 07:03 pm

    Perfect respsonse to a stoopid question from a even stoopider ‘reporter’. Fvcking pathetic two bit hacks.

  52. Liam | October 16th, 2009 at 07:18 pm

    @ChuckinDenton

    Ponder this paradox, for a moment.

    Bilgey, Admits that he does not want to be a citizen of the United States, while at the same time he claims to be upset that President Obama is being accepted as a US Citizen.

    Since Bilgey, does not consider himself to be a Citzen of the USA, then he has no standing to question any one else’s citizenship.

    The astonishing thing about these birther nuts is: there was a candidate in the last presidential election who was born in a foreign land, and was not a US citizen at birth.

    That person was not President Obama. It was John McCain, who was born in Panama, and at the time he was born there, US law did not recognize him as being a US Citizen.

    This proves that the Birthers are frauds. They are just using their birther claims as a cover for their racism.

    They had no problem with John McCain being foreign born, so that exposes what really bothers them is the color of President Obama’s skin.

  53. MoeHoward | October 16th, 2009 at 07:39 pm

    I’ll make it even simpler. Bilgeman was raised by wolves. Unfortunately, they also taught him how to use the Internet and type on anonymous web pages, trying to manage the pain in his heart. I feel for him, sort of…let him enjoy his spittle-flecked monitor in peace.

  54. Sly | October 16th, 2009 at 08:08 pm

    “Think about it…what do you have to lose?”

    Any and all lingering hesitation about building a wall along our (revised) southern border as well as several drags on statistical measurements that can tell a person whether or not their living in a civilized country. Health outcomes, literacy, crime, poverty, etc. The United States would probably rise in quite a few OECD indexes if several states which occupy a certain general region of the country decided to unshackle themselves from the brutal tyranny of socialistamasism.

    But we Yankee elitist ******** wish you and the rest of the Neo-Confederates the best of luck on becoming the new largest third world country on the planet, should you (finally) decide its time to rise again. Remember: Treason in defense of wage slavery is indeed a step up from treason in defense of chattel slavery. Wolverines!

  55. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 08:31 pm

    Sly:
    “But we Yankee elitist ******** wish you and the rest of the Neo-Confederates the best of luck on becoming the new largest third world country on the planet, should you (finally) decide its time to rise again. Remember: Treason in defense of wage slavery is indeed a step up from treason in defense of chattel slavery.”

    Thankee for your kind wishes, neighbor!

    I would note, however, that “wage slavery”, for all the tone of dismissal you manage to imbue it with, seems to be one of the prime reasons that you folks emigrate TO the occupied Confederacy.

    When you come right down to it,I think a border wall along the Mason-Dixon line extending westward as far as necessary would be a wonderful idea as well.

    People move FROM Flint or Gary TO Birmingham and Charlotte for the “wage-slave” jobs.

    NO-ONE moves TO Flint or Gary, (unless shoveling snow for half the year in a crumbling and depopulating high-tax polis is their personal “freak”).

  56. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 08:42 pm

    Liam:
    “It was John McCain, who was born in Panama, and at the time he was born there, US law did not recognize him as being a US Citizen.”

    You keep making the mistake of assuming that I voted for McCain or even supported his candidacy.

    I did not do either.

    And where McCain was born has little to no bearing on Mr. Obama’s birthplace.

    Where it DOES bear on it is the absolute honesty and openness that McCain displayed about the fact of his being born in a US Naval Hospital on a US Naval Base in Pananma.

    Since these facts were readily apparent from HIS “vault copy” birth certificate, the Senate was able to pass a “Sense of the Senate” resolution that stated essentially that it accepted these circumstances as satisfying the “natural-born citizen” requirement in the Constitution, since US Naval and Military installations are indeed US territories, (as are US-Flag ships at sea, BTW).

    I find it revealing that you neglect to mention, while bringing up this irrelevant sideshow however, that Mr. McCain was born in a US Naval Hospital aboard a US Naval Base in the Republic of Pananma because his father was a career officer of the US Navy, and was therefore ordered to present himself,(and allowed to bring his family), to his Panama duty station.

  57. rukidding | October 16th, 2009 at 08:57 pm

    I don’t know which is more entertaining on this blog…reading bilgeman’s delusional posts…I feel kind of guilty laughing at those since it’s not nice to enjoy humor at the expense of the mentally challenged…

    OR…Our daily dose of Liam witicisms…My Irish friend you got me again with this one…

    “Baby Parents met as a Donkey Act, in Tijuana. He got his Half @SS ways from his Jack @SS father.”

    That could describe baby hugo or bilgeman…do these trolls just hang out for out entertainment. I’m grateful!!!LMAO

  58. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 09:39 pm

    rukidding:
    “I don’t know which is more entertaining on this blog…reading bilgeman’s delusional posts…I feel kind of guilty laughing at those since it’s not nice to enjoy humor at the expense of the mentally challenged”

    You resort to ridicule when you have nothing left to argue the point with.

    Got it.

    If I’m a “Birther”, it is mainly because Obama has not been nearly as forthcoming with the documentary evidence about his past as other candidates have been about theirs.

    College transcripts? Theses? Harvard Law Review Articles?
    Anything? Anyone?
    Bueller?
    …Bueller?…Bueller?

    There’s a whole bunch of things about this guy that folks took on faith, and I suspect he will one day make even bigger fools of those of you who elected him POTUS than he made of those unutterably ridiculous Norwegians who awarded him the Nobel Peace Prize for his 12 day’s worth of “work for World Peace”.

    Boy…THAT’S gonna just HURT like the dickens, and I can’t wait for the tsunami of gob-smacked ridicule that flows when that happens.

  59. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 09:45 pm

    rukidding:

    A post-script.

    Have you entertained, even for a minute, what happens if Obama was NOT born in Hawaii or the United States?

    Not only will his entire Presidency be erased as fraudulent, but his Nobel Peace Prize will have to be revoked.

    If he has been a con man about his origins, he has been more thoroughly ensnared in his own deceit than could be imagined.

    Someone in a position he may be in could easily commit suicide as the only way out of his own trap.

    I could almost pity him that circumstance, were it not one that would be of his own making.

  60. amk | October 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Hey bilge, have you ever thought of taking your birther case to the courts ?… oh, that’s right. you did and got your nuts kicked for it. How does it feel ? Idjit and teh moran.

  61. Gasman | October 16th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Bilge, you are either a willful or congenital moron, or a paid shill from the right. Your arguments have never made a damn bit of sense, but you may very well be at your insanely delusional zenith today. Do you honestly think that anyone besides yourself takes your bilge seriously?

    Keep it up; you are pretty effective arguing for the other side when you trot out your buffoonery. Idiotic bombast is remarkably unpersuasive.

  62. Sly | October 16th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    “People move FROM Flint or Gary TO Birmingham and Charlotte for the ‘wage-slave’ jobs.”

    Absolutely. Cherry picking data will always get you the kind of results that vapid ideology demands. All the cool kids do it!

    Median Household Income By State (according to the evil U.S. Census):

    Michigan: $51,001
    Indiana: $48,095
    North Carolina: $43,538
    Alabama: $42,946

    Wanna take a guess as to how many Confederate states are in the top 10? I’ll give you a big hint: It’s greater than zero, less than two, and its the same as the number of states north of the 39th parallel that are in the bottom 10.

  63. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Gasman:
    “Idiotic bombast is remarkably unpersuasive.”

    You think that I am here to persuade you?

    Your mind is so closed by your moonbattery that you dare not even entertain the question of why Obama spends at this point, over a million dollars to keep his vault-copy Certificate of Live Birth secret.

    I mean…what’s the big deal about it?

    That we learn which hospital he was born in?
    Which doctor or midwife attended his birth?
    Which Registrar accepted and filed the Certificate?

    What’s the big freakin’ deal?

    But you can’t even publicly countenance this, trapped as you are in your moonbat orthodoxy.

    You want my personal conspiracy theory? For entertainment purposes?

    I bet that this Certificate will show that Barack was indeed born in the United States, and it will list which hospital and the doctor and all that jazz.

    But it will list “Unknown” in the line where “Father” should be.

    Realize that the stigma of Bastardy was far greater back in those days, even for an intra-racial child. For an inter-racial child, we can at this point only imagine how hard a row it would have been to hoe.

    While Ms, Dunham may have been a bit of a floozy,especially for her time, I imagine that her parents looked high and low to find a willing man to make her child legitimate, and they found a Kenyan exchange student, Barack, Senior, willing to accept the child for a bit of financial help.

    Certainly Dunham and Obama, Sr.’s union didn’t least too long, I’ll wager it was long enough for him to finish his studies here and return to Kenya, never to be seen again.

    Barack Junior got to grow up with the fiction of having an exotic although absent, Kenyan father, rather than whats-his-name from down the street in one of his mother’s old neighborhoods.

    To be honest, it’s the most mundane and rationally explainable reason I can think of for the Alleged Hawaiian to continue this pointless struggle to conceal the circumstances of his origin from the American people.

    Not that his being born a ******* would in any way reflect on him, since it would have been a reflection of the misfeasnce of his parents, but it’s the sensitive and embarrassing and otherwise private kind of thing that heeds not any logic or reason.

    Too bad for him that his job requirements are clearly and unequivocally stated that he must be a natural-born US citizen.

    I, for one, am willing to be satisfied by a vault-copy Certificate of Live Birth where the father line is redacted, so long as it shows what, Constitutionally, it needs to show.

    So enjoy.

  64. Bilgeman | October 16th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Sly:
    “Cherry picking data will always get you the kind of results that vapid ideology demands. All the cool kids do it!”

    As do you.

    “Median Household Income By State (according to the evil U.S. Census):

    Michigan: $51,001
    Indiana: $48,095
    North Carolina: $43,538
    Alabama: $42,946″

    That’s VERY impressive, as long as you only look at half the equation, chum.

    The OTHER half of the equation is Cost of Living.

    This explains why you can make 75k a year in New York City and yet live like peon in a 5th floor, two-room walk-up in the “Come As You Are” section of Brooklyn.

    For homework, go dredge up the Cost of living rankings of the states, and then let’s see how ole Dixie stacks up.

  65. amk | October 17th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    bilge, sorry your mom didn’t keep her legs closed. What a POS.

  66. Gasman | October 17th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Bilge,
    You are a moron. Your birther hyperventilation is beyond ridiculous. Even if Obama were born in Kenya, since his mother was a U.S. citizen and had lived here, he would STILL be considered a natural born U.S. citizen.

    So, whether his citizenship comes from ius soli (”right of the soil”), under which citizenship results from being born in the US, or
    ius sanguinis (”right of the blood”), under which citizenship results from having an American parent or parents, HE IS STILL A CITIZEN!

    Unless you can legitimately call his mother’s citizenship into question, you and Orly Taitz have nothing but the rocks in your head. What am I saying? There is nothing remotely legitimate about you.

    You are predictably a ****** nozzle.

  67. Gasman | October 17th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    The filter deprived you of d*ouche nozzle.

  68. Bilgeman | October 17th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Gasman:
    “The filter deprived you of d*ouche nozzle”

    I wouldn’t worry about your recreational rubber plaything, since you obviously didn’t read my post.

  69. Bilgeman | October 17th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    amk:
    “bilge, sorry your mom didn’t keep her legs closed. What a POS”

    Stay classy, amk.

  70. Liam | October 17th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Bilgey,

    Since you are not an American Citizen, it is none of your business where the President of the USA was born.

  71. mnchurchmouse | October 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Folks, much energy on this blog is misdirected. This is the promo for the Glenn Beck show, as taken directly from the show: “The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment.”

    Now with that in mind, does the reporting of Ms. Dunn’s statement that she holds Mao Zedong as one of her favorite political philosophers mean that she is, in any way, a communist, or holds communist beliefs? Does her statement that she holds Mother Teresa in equally high regard mean that she is a Catholic, or holds Catholic views? Does her statement imply that her two favorite political philosophers share similar views, or are connected in any way? What if she would have favored Adolf Hitler or Pol Pot as a favored political philosopher? Further, what about Martin Luther King, Jr., or Nelson Mandela? Would her statements be any more, or less, controversial?

    The reporting of her statements (in full context, by the way) simply fit within the greater context of Fox News’ slogan: “We report. You decide.”

    I think that the larger point that Glenn Beck was making was this. Of all the people that one could hold up as a paradigm, is it possible that there might be someone who has not contributed to the genocide of millions (perhaps 50-70 million) of people?

    I believe that sentient, thoughtful people can parse the truth and draw their own conclusions. If they cannot, it is a dismal reflection on the lack of critical thinking skills being instilled by our educational system.

  72. Liam | October 17th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Pure drivel,

    If you said that you liked turnips, does that make you one.

  73. Liam | October 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Lots of people who hate the New York Yankees, frequently quote Yogi Berra.

    Glen Beck and his Becker Head followers break out, and dust off, their copies of the Joe McCarty Fascist playbook.

  74. Liam | October 17th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    edit: Joe McCarthy

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