Fox News Poll Finds More Support Fox News Against White House
Some pretty funny polling on the Fox News-White House standoff from, natch, Fox News:
31. Have you heard about the Obama administration’s criticism of FOX News Channel?
Yes 59%
No 40%
No mention of Fox’s criticism of the White House; only of the Obama administration’s criticism of Fox. Next question, asked of those who said Yes to the above:
32. Who do you think is right in this debate?
Fox News 56%
Obama 29%
This is not the first time Fox has polled on its own confrontation with the White House, either. Legit news outlet Fox News is happy to continue making itself the story. Would you ever see MSNBC indulge in this sort of thing?
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That’s because they are a propaganda organization and political arm of the GOP.
So Fox is asking Fox viewers these questions.
And even there they only get 59% and 56%? They must have jiggled the numbers – you can’t tell me that Fox viewers aren’t 99% with Fox on this -
Will those 29%’ers be called rinos by bilge O, stupidity et. al ?
Tena-
they are trying to be “fair and balanced”, dontchaknow…
via tpm
“Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)–chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee is rare among senior Senate Democrats. Whereas many in the party view seniority as akin to tenure, Harkin thinks it should come with responsibility. And when powerful chairmen stray, he doesn’t keep quiet.
“[Lieberman] still wants to be a part of the Democratic Party although he is a registered independent,” Harkin said. “He wants to caucus with us and, of course, he enjoys his chairmanship of the [Homeland Security] committee because of the indulgence of the Democratic Caucus. So, I’m sure all of those things will cross his mind before the final vote.”
Time to twist this thug’s thumbs.
Every “journalist” villager should watch this Daily Show clip.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/30/jon-stewart-takes-on-war_n_339788.html
Does anyone wonder why Jon Stewart is considered the most trusted newsman in the country? Hey, Campbell Brown – sit down and shut up.
amk — “via tpm,” huh? that’s linked in the brand new Morning Plum feature.
amk-
Nice choice of words by Harkin: “indulgence”. Damn straight and never let small-time Joe forget it. Who’s the Godfather who’s gonna have a litte *talk* with him?
“Time to twist this thug’s thumbs.”
O I looooooooves it! O thank you for posting this – he’s so damned smug; that’s what drives me crazy – he’s just smug all over. Reid has got to get in his space, lean on him and get all steely-eyed and tell him he’s losing his chair of the Homeland Security Committee. The caucus would vote for that if Lieberman joined the GOP filibuster – I know it would. Harry has no excuses.
It looks like they will continue to push this meme on Sunday. The guest list includes Rush Limbaugh, Carl Cameron and Major Garrett. It looks like the so-called “War with Fox” will once again be the top story of this entertainment network.
Cheers
I actually found this poll to be pretty interesting. After reading the whole Fox poll I can’t believe how well the President is doing. Considering 44 is a Nazi, Facist and Socialist who is going to take away everyone’s guns, make abortion free and totally destroy our country his poll numbers are very good!
“amk — “via tpm,” huh? that’s linked in the brand new Morning Plum feature.”
So it is. I read it, too.
“After reading the whole Fox poll I can’t believe how well the President is doi”
My point entirely. They have to have fudged the numbers. I can’t believe 40% of Fox viewers are unaware of the situation, nor can I believe 29% of them are not on Fox’s side.
“The guest list includes Rush Limbaugh, Carl Cameron and Major Garrett. It looks like the so-called “War with Fox” will once again be the top story of this entertainment network.
”
Dude – the media’s main subject for at least the last decade and a half has been The Media. The entire media is about the media, including the parody media that parodies the media being all about the media.
It’s not meta anymore – we’re passed that.
You will never see MSNBC conduct a poll where the general public could possibly show them to be wrong. At least FOX has gonads enough to test the waters of open public opinion .
“At least FOX has gonads enough to test the waters of open public opinion .”
LOL – o yeah – Fox is the shizznit – the most fair and balanced pile of garbage ever to worm its way into American’s earholes.
Sorry Greg. I was flipping thru’ TPM and this Harkin bit hit me. Cut your former boss some slack.
Faux has dicks, ergo gonads – agreed.
I never said FOX was fair and balanced. I watch both FOX and MCNBC. The straight news on FOX leans to the right, no doubt about it. The straight news on MSNBC leans slightly farther to the left than FOX is to the right. The editorial commentary is reversed with FOX further to the right than MSNBC is to the left.
Just my opinion of course, but it is a reasoned one and not just a lot of blather like most I see here.
BBQ – Thx for that DS clip. Stewart just skewred faux. Does the wingers anyone in the calibre of Stewart, Colbert and other left satirists ?
I just got an opening to say this again: Stephen Colbert is a frakking genius the likes of which Sasha Baron Cohen can only DREAM about being.
And we owe Colbert – he started the avalanche that buried Commander CooCoo Bananas and the rest of the GOP.
“Just my opinion of course, but it is a reasoned one and not just a lot of blather like most I see here.”
O do please, next, tell us your IQ, Larbo.
Is FAUX News worth all the attention we are giving them?
Aren’t they just preaching to the Right Wing Choir? If they were making inroads with moderates, then Bush and Cheney’s poll numbers would not have collapsed.
Isn’t it time that we called off the hounds, and stopped chasing after a mangy rabid Fox?
Yes, Tena. I will never forget the roast Colbear gave shrub in that fvcking (and fawning) beltway correspondents’ dinner. And it culminated in shrub getting almost hit by not one, two shoes. That denouement was perfect end to that war criminal’s presidency.
I don’t want to em bare as you TENA
OT, sorry but Morning Plum (Roundup) goes by too fast on the West Coast. Greenwald does a pretty good dissection of Brooks’ column this morning. Link has both Greenwald’s and Brooks piece. Those pesky unnamed sources.
“David Brooks today says he wanted to write a column about Obama’s pending decision over Afghanistan, and in order to write this column, this is what he tells us he did: “For the past few days I have tried to do what journalists are supposed to do.” Sounds intrepid. What, exactly, is it that “journalists are supposed to”?
“As he describes it, Brooks “called around to several of the smartest military experts [he] know[s] to get their views on these controversies.” These are people “who follow the war for a living.” He wrote down (at least some of) what they said. He then passed it on without quoting — or even identifying — a single one of these experts. That’s his whole column.”
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/10/30/brooks
larbo another 29%er Tena. Just ignore the idjit of a troll.
Pillow Talk.
Campbell Brown is married to Dan Senor. He worked in the Bush2 Admn. and now does work for FAUX NEWS, and writes for The Wall St. Journal.
Yes indeed. Campbell Brown was just being Fair & Balanced!
Greg, I hate to say anything for fear I’ll jinx it, but this blog is working like a finely honed razor’s edge these days.
Comments not only appear instantly, you’re taken right back there to see that they are, too.
Many thanks to your techies!
lmsinca – DemFromCT @ dkos on that brooks POS
“I will then ask you to to trust that I’m not selectively reporting the ones that agree with my opinion, and distilling it to sound ominously anti-progressive. I wonder why no one reads newspapers any more ?”
Fvcking clueless and moranic pundits.
“The EU has agreed a conditional deal on how to help other nations fight global warming, ahead of a key climate summit, but set no figure on what it would pay.
The EU agreed climate change would need 100bn euros ($148bn; £90bn) a year by 2020, and would pay its “fair share”, conditional on other nations.
UK PM Gordon Brown said the EU was leading the way with bold proposals.
Talks at the EU summit in Brussels had been deadlocked over how EU nations would share its costs.
A coalition of nine poorer EU nations had threatened to block a deal unless richer countries paid more. ”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/europe/8334146.stm
amk
A little like the jokesters on Morning Joe this morning, I caught just a little bit but they all seemed to agree that the PO is once again dead.
This is just sick and pathetic! Can someone please get Liz Cheney to shut up!
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/liz-cheney-bush-had-more-class-than-obama-when-it-comes-to-fallen-soldiers.php?ref=fpa
I guess it was just a matter of time before the Commander in Chief would get slammed for honoring our fallen heroes.
Liam – At least campbell is legally entitled to her pillow talk. What about those incestuous beltway media heathens who are in bed with right wing pols ?
Oh but Liam, while they’re concentrating on the “War” with the WH, the WH is concentrating on more important issues somewhat under their radar.
Andy,
Liz has inherited her father’s genes. She loves torture, atupid wars, and lying; just as much as he does.
She is: Dickette Cheney
edit:
stupid wars….
lmsinca – exactly. This admin is playing games which is beyond the ken of the idiotic media. Obama’s meme of constantly calling the 24/7 media vapidness is confusing their addled brains. While they enjoy their gotcha moments, the sand is shifting right under their feet.
“That’s his whole column.””
What? No unnamed cab drivers? No unnamed Heartland Americans sitting next to him at an unnamed bar in an unknown city and state?
Bobo’s slipping.
This will make the wingers’ head explode.
“Israel endorses Iran nuclear plan
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has praised a UN proposal to regulate Iran’s uranium enrichment programme.
Speaking before talks with US Middle East envoy George Mitchell, he called it a “positive first step” in stopping Tehran developing a nuclear weapon.
Under the plan, low-enriched fuel would be further processed outside Iran.
On Thursday, the UN’s nuclear watchdog confirmed it had received Iran’s response to the directive, but its contents have not been released.
Mr Netanyahu said: “I think that the proposal to have Iran withdraw its enriched uranium, or a good portion of it, outside Iran is a positive first step.”
He also praised US President Barack Obama’s efforts in drawing global attention to the issue of Iran’s nuclear programme. ”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/8334235.stm
Guess the soft power works unlike the puerile machismo.
One more OT, from Maddow last night, don’t know if everyone caught it regarding Bayh walking back out the door Lieberman opened. She calls it Joe Lonely.
“Maddow: In other words according to his office’s statement today Sen. Bayh is now promising to allow the bill to come to the floor, but would he still like Lieberman filibuster the final vote with Republicans? Would he block a majority vote on the final bill and force his party to get sixty votes to pass health reform instead of fifty? Well, exclusively this afternoon Sen. Bayh told us this.”
“He told us that his position on health reform is not the same as Sen. Lieberman. Sen. Bayh told us it is extraordinarily unlikely that he would filibuster health reform. He said there is nothing in the bill he is aware of now that would cause him to vote to filibuster and he said that he currently “can’t think of a set of circumstances under which he would vote against cloture.”
“What does this mean? It means that it’s been a very big 24 hours for health reform. Sen. Bayh’s statement as of 24 hours ago indicated that he had walked through the door that Joe Lieberman had opened–that he was willing to go even further than Joe Lieberman—not only willing to filibuster the final bill on health reform, but to filibuster any debate as well, both of those perceived threats from Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana have been walked way back. Which means that Joe Lieberman stands alone—Joe Lonely.”
amk
Good news from Israel. It’s nice to be proven correct once in awhile. Foreign policy is a long haul trend, but it’s nice to be getting some results already. Wonder if Fox “News” will report this.
Read this and tell me that Snowe is the least bit interested in really getting The Trigger Option which she was the originator of:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/snowe-pessimistic-on-triggers.php
“Yesterday Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said he’d filibuster a health care bill if it contains a public option. Many reporters and analysts took this as a sign that an alternative political strategy of courting Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME), who prefers the public option only as a fall back, would re-emerge.
Well, Snowe herself disagrees.
“I don’t see how you get to 60 [votes to replace the public option with a trigger],” Snowe told reporters last night.
Having a public option in the bill, she said, will “make it infinitely more difficult to change that on the floor…I just don’t see how that works.”"
As far as I am concerned, all she has ever been is a Trojan Horse, who wanted to destroy reform from the inside, and her Trigger proposal was just another way of saying: No Public Option, but now she is even backing away from that.
To Hell With Olympia Snowe, and The Trigger She Rode In On!
Agreed Liam, now if the Pres. will realize it’s an exercise in futility and fully get behind and twist at least one arm that needs it, we’ll be good to go.
I don’t even like the PO we’ve got that much but it’s a start and the people want it, at least the majority of them do.
I agree Liam… “To Hell With Olympia Snowe, and The Trigger She Rode In On!”
I am also not sure Lieberman will come around either. I really hope someone is working on reconciliation behind the scenes in case we need to go that route.
I fully expect Obama to come up with a big final speech on the eve of voting on PO and set the narrative. Yes, I’m that confident about him.
Now there’s a dog-bites-man story. FauxNews is manipulating polls in their favor. This just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
The raison d’être of FauxNews is to manipulate their sheeple via lies, phony polls, manufactured non-news stories, ginned up controversy, engineered “astroturf” events, edited and abridged transcripts of on-air content, racism, bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, and nonstop hawking of any and all things anti-Obama. They have been willing to provide airtime -twice – for a traitorous lout who urged the Taliban to execute a captured U.S. soldier, seemingly because they deemed that it fit their poisonous hatred of all things Obama. They are unAmerican traitors who have utterly sold out their country simply to score transient political advantage. Political victory is more important to these clods than is the strength and integrity of the Constitution. They are vermin.
All they do is lie. It is simply what they do.
So, regarding this leaked list of investigations. I got money is was a Republican that leaked it to diminish both the good GDP numbers and the news of the HCR House Bill being unveiled.
The story soaked up the front page of the WaPo so I guess it worked.
I second what Gasman said.
“Yes, I’m that confident about him.’
Me too – glad I’m not all alone in that.
Another day of the left obsessing over Fox “making itself the story” — after The One decided to make it the story.
Obama wanted to put Fox in the spotlight and delegitimize it. You should be complaining about him.
Yeah, I’m sure Obama will be making another pretty speech at the last minute, instead of championing it, twisting arms, phoning up the wavering Dems. Spare me.
Irony alert:
On a thread about how Fox isn’t real news blah blah blah, we suddenly have this:
“And we owe Colbert – he started the avalanche that buried Commander CooCoo Bananas and the rest of the GOP.”
So “Fauxnews” is a blight and pernicious influence, but an actual faux news clown driving public perceptions through sophomoric ridicule deserves a Medal of Freedom.
Makes perfect sense in the liberal funhouse — or sweatlodge as Bilgeman aptly describes it.
What FOXNEWS and its following have fundamentally failed to observe is the fact that when a group circles the wagons, no movement forward can be taken, no alternative leadership can be offered.
So, there we have it – circled wagons shooting aimlessly at anything that moves in hopes of killing all who are moving by to get to better places. What idiots! -Kevo
UNITED NATIONS — Israel warned Friday of the futility of talks aimed at preventing Iran from developing a nuclear bomb — as a deadline came and went for the Islamic republic to endorse a key deal struck just this week.
With Israel widely believed to have been close to ordering a military strike on Iran before the current talks began, Silvan Shalom, Israel’s vice-prime minister, signalled that the latest setback showed Iran was stalling for time.
“We believe the Iranians will never abandon their dream to become a nuclear power,” Shalom said after meeting in New York with United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.
“They (have hidden) their real intentions in the past, and they will do (so) in the future.”
Shalom spoke after Iran sidestepped the Friday deadline for accepting a UN-drafted plan to send abroad uranium stocks the West believes could be further enriched for use in an atomic bomb.
“Guess the soft power works unlike the puerile machismo.”
UNITED NATIONS — Israel warned Friday of the futility of talks aimed at preventing Iran from developing a nuclear bomb — as a deadline came and went for the Islamic republic to endorse a key deal struck just this week.
“…Silvan Shalom, Israel’s vice-prime minister, signalled that the latest setback showed Iran was stalling for time.
…
“They (have hidden) their real intentions in the past, and they will do (so) in the future.”
“Shalom spoke after Iran sidestepped the Friday deadline for accepting a UN-drafted plan to send abroad uranium stocks the West believes could be further enriched for use in an atomic bomb.”
http://www.canada.com/health/Iran+delays+reply+backed+nuclear+deal/2137811/story.html
I just love it that the right totally does not get Stephen Colbert.
LOL!
I totally get Colbert. He can be quite funny if malicious and deceptive.
But it’s a bit much for libs to laud his contribution to discourse while trashing Fox. More than a bit much. Utterly ludicrous. You probably think Stewart and Maher are great, too. I recall seeing surveys showing that large numbers of young people get their “news” from these televised clowns. That’s what the left has given us.
How could they get Colbert, when most of them talk about Jack Baur as if he is an actual person.
Colbert was hilarious in Strangers with Candy.
HA! I’m amazed the data doesn’t cone in at 105% versus 12&..that’s how the cluster-fox numbering system works!! In favor of a Cluster position is NEVER less than 100%..That the initial premise in anything they do…
ALL LIES ALL THE TIME – THAT’S ROGER AILES AND RUPE !!!
Never heard me talk about Jack Bauer, Liar. I just wouldn’t place a terrorist’s comfort above my family’s lives, as you would. The simple minded like you don’t know the difference. In fact, it appears to be you you thinks 24 is filmed at Gitmo.
SEND THOSE 29%ERS ROCK SALT *DIP*
Yeah because there’s no difference between show that satirizes opinion shows and a show that purports to be actual “news” which people are invited to believe is based on actual “facts.”
But I truly understand that the right no longer understands the difference.
O I see Liam beat me to the point that they can’t tell the difference with his Jack Bauer comment.
LOL
LOL how I refuted Tena’s point before she made it.
Funny how much of the left gets its “news” from Colbert and Stewart, and folks like Tena and Liar think that’s just peachy.
If you have objective proof that Fox isn’t factual or isn’t as accurate as other networks, feel free to provide it.
Otherwise, you’re just blowing hot air.
quarterback,
Is it factual when FauxNews edits transcripts of their on-air content? How does that comport with the facts? I’m willing to bet it would be easy to find hundreds, if not thousands of instances. I can name two right off the top of my head.
1. During Brit Hume’s interview with Cheney, after big Dick shot his lawyer friend because Dick was too drunk to walk, FauxNews edited out of the transcripts Cheney’s admission that he had been drinking.
2. When Bill O’Reilly, the Sisyphus of morons, stupidly tried to lecture Gen. Wesley Clark on military history, not once but twice, he claimed that at Malmédy U.S. soldiers had rounded up and shot German SS troops after they had surrendered. In point of fact, it was the SS that murdered the U.S. soldiers, but O’Reilly twice repeated his egregious error. Finally, on a third broadcast, an O’Reilly viewer corrected him only to have O’Reilly reassert that it was U.S. troops committing the atrocities at Malmédy. He thrice slandered martyred U.S. troops of committing the very crimes of their murderers.
What was the response of FauxNews? Alter the transcripts to indicate that O’Reilly had actually said “Normandy” instead of “Malmédy.” Not only was this a lie in that it altered the record of what O’Reilly actually said, but it was just as factually incorrect. There is no historical record of mass murder by U.S. soldiers at Normandy either. Apparently, FauxNews has just as much indifference and/or contempt for the honor of fallen U.S. soldiers as does O’Reilly.
After FauxNews’ amended transcripts were made public by Keith Olbermann and Media Matters, FauxNews was compelled to correct their them to accurately reflect what O’Reilly actually said.
Before defending the traitorous hacks at FauxNews, you might want to do at least a cursory web search of their much documented transgressions. They are not a news organization, they are Murdoch’s and Ailes’ version of the Ministry of Truth. It is simply a Republican lie factory.
For a full account of the latter event, go to:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200606030002
You don’t have to agree with Olbermann or Media Matters, there is that permanent video record of O’Reilly on YouTube. FauxNews is entirely unacquainted with facts, as are you.
I was somewhat surprised that even you were stupid enough to go to bat for them. It is simply to easy to expose their calumny, and yours as well.
Gasbag,
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-report-no-winners-in-oreilly-vs-olbermann-july-a/
See what happens when you rely on MMA and Ubermoron for your information? You end up repeating their lies and misinformation.
Note how Ubermoron/MSNBC and MMA not only LIED about Fox supposedly doctoring transcripts but how Ubermoron repeatedly LIED about O’Reilly as supposedly sympathizing with the Nazis.
Notice is absurd and unfounded association of O’Reilly with Joe McCarthy — a typical Ubermoron exercise of his own “McCarthyism.”
So, in your prime example of the “hundreds of examples” of Fox lies you “could trot” out, you managed to “trot” out instead an O’Reilly mistake about which your heros Ubermoron and MMA LIED.
They are liars, and so are you.
By the way, here is another outright by Ubermoron.
http://wisdomofsoloman.blogspot.com/2009/10/more-msnbc-lies.html
The boy in question has since come forward to say he was 16, but Jennings wrote that the boy was 15, and it is undisputed that he believed him 15 at the time and believed he behaved inappropriately by not reporting the matter.
It was a flat-out lie by Ubermoron that Jennings didn’t report the incident because the boy was 16.
Isn’t it interesting how Ubermoron lies so often in his accusations of lying by others?
And, Gasbag, as if it even matters, your claims about the Cheney hunting incident are false.
I’ve seen no suggestion anywhere that Fox “edited out of the transcripts Cheney’s admission that he had been drinking.”
In fact, he hadn’t been “drinking.” He had one beer at lunch, and the accident happened approximately six hours later.
Yet you assert that he was “too drunk to walk.”
Too drunk to walk, yet he was hunting, and walking. And yet other experienced hunters were walking and hunting with him? And his Secret Service detail was watching the VP hunt with a shotgun while he was “too drunk to walk,” according to YOU, the most vile, malicious, NONCHRISTIAN LIAR there is.
You are a digusting slanderer, and a monumentally stupid one to boot.
quarterback,
If Cheney wasn’t drunk, why did he wait to be interviewed by the local sheriff until many, many hours later? To allow him to sober up, that’s why. Who ever heard of anyone hunting quail from a car? He was being driven because he was too drunk to walk. There is also all of his bogus gun “safety” b.s. in which he tried to claim that it was the responsibility of everyone in his party to stay out of the way of his bullets. He swiveled 180 degrees and fired blind. He was drunk. Either that or the dumbest and most dangerous moron to ever handle a gun. I don’t doubt that FauxNews has since corrected the transcript. As with the Media Matters link, once exposed, the pattern of FauxNews is to correct the record.
You are either a moron or a congenital liar. The footage of O’Reilly putting his foot in his mouth three times is on YouTube links. To deny this is just plain stupid. You don’t have a leg to stand on in this argument. Are you that vain? Face it, you are dead wrong. Doubt it? Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0aAVifJqDE
You may not like or agree with Olbermann, but the O’Reilly footage is right off FauxNews. You can hear the word “Malmédy” come from O’Reilly’s piehole yourself. You are a moron if you continue to try and win this argument. O’Reilly is just as dead wrong about the facts at Malmédy as you are about denying that O’Reilly really did say it.
If that footage isn’t good enough for you, FauxNews’ corrected transcripts have O’Reilly making the false “Malmédy” claims.
Instead of extracting stuff from your backside, why not do a little research first? You are a blowhard and an imbecile and undeniably wrong. Quit while you are behind.
This is like going to a KKK meeting and asking, “how many of y’all think those N-word is bringing this on themselves”?
You idiot, Gasbag. Read the links before repeating your nonsense.
There was NEVER a doctored Fox transcript. Period. They didn’t even prepare the transcript, YOU LIAR. You can post all the videos of O’Reilly mispeaking you want. It makes no difference whether he misspoke or not. YOUR CLAIM AGAINST FOX WAS OF DOCTORED TRANSCRIPTS AND IS PATENTLY FALSE.
And your Cheney story is LAUGHABLE, not to mention an evasion of the fact that your accusation of Fox doctoring a transcript has been PROVEN A LIE.
You post no source at all for your absurd “so drunk he was shooting from a car” blather. NONE. The Fox interview you claim is the smoking gun says he had ONE BEER six hours before the incident.
He NEVER said what you claim he said — you made that up out of whole cloth. If you knew the first thing about hunting you would know that everything you said is complete nonsense, and it is falsified by all the evidence there on the matter.
You are a despicable liar and your claim of devout Christianity is a monumental lie. You speak for the Father of Lies.
Just in case anyone didn’t follow the link and see the proof that Gasbag LYING, here is the key and undisputed point from the facts gathered by AIM:
“Another of Olbermann’s distortions was that Fox deliberately altered its transcript of the May 30 show to claim that O’Reilly said “Normandy” rather than “Malmédy,” in order to obscure the serious nature of O’Reilly’s error. “Fox washed its transcript of O’Reilly’s remarks,” claimed Olbermann with intense indignation and a high degree of certainty. “Its website claims O’Reilly said ‘in Normandy’ when, as you heard, in fact, he said ‘in Malmédy.’” Olbermann said that Fox had engaged in the Orwellian rewriting of history.
But it turns out that Fox had nothing to do with the transcript, other than posting it on its site after it was sent over by the transcription company, Morningside Partners, a Maryland-based company that provides the same service for Olbermann’s Countdown show. Morningside told us that one of its transcribers had just heard Clark refer to Normandy, and that when O’Reilly said Malmédy, the transcriber either misheard or mistakenly wrote down Normandy. When informed of the error, it was immediately corrected.”
That’s right, there was no Fox alteration of a transcript to “cover up” a mistake, because there wasn’t even a Fox transcript to begin with.
Ubermoron made up another whopping lie, and Gasbag dragged his garbage here and repeated it.
So let’s review the key points.
1. Gasbag claims Fox isn’t news because it routinely doctors transcripts to cover up its personalities’ mistakes and lies. He says it is easy to cite “hundreds” or even “thousands” of instances of this.
2. Gasbag claims he can cite two clear examples off the top of his head.
3. The first example is that Fox supposedly altered an O’Reilly transcript to change his reference to “Malmedy” to “Normandy” to cover up O’Reilly misspeaking about war crimes in WWII.
4. In fact, however, the transcript in question wasn’t even prepared by Fox but by a third party, and the third party when asked said the employee who made the trasncript simply misheard and made a mistake, which was corrected when brought to their attention. FOX had NOTHING to do with it.
5. The second example is that Fox supposedly altered its transcript of Brit Hume’s interview of Dick Cheney to remove an admission by Cheney that he had been “drinking” before his hunting accident in Texas. Gasbag’s original claim was that Cheney “was too drunk to walk, FauxNews edited out of the transcripts Cheney’s admission that he had been drinking.” Gasbag later embellished this claim to say that Cheney was in fact so drunk that he was riding and shooting at quail “from a car” when he “swivelled 180 degrees and fired blind.” Gasbag neither links nor provides any reference to any evidence for these claims.
6. As usual, though, Gasbag is relying on MMA for these claims. But MMA’s complaint wasn’t that Fox altered a transcript. It was that Fox posted what was said to be the “complete” video of the Cheney interview on its website, but the video was in three parts and omitted a passage where Cheney was asked and said he had had “one beer” at lunch that day. The shooting accident occurred hours later around 6 p.m.
7. The basis for MMA’s complaint about the video was the transcript of the interview, which DID contain Cheney’s “admission” of having had one beer at lunch. And MMA admits that when Fox aired the video in reported Cheney’s “admision” that he had had a beer at lunch in the lead in to the intervew. So again in the instance there is no basis whatsoever for Gasbag’s claim that Fox altered a transcript to cover up facts.
8. There also is no evidence anywhere that Cheney was “so drunk he could not walk” or was shooting from a car. In fact, those claims are wildly contrary to ALL of the witness statements and evidence about the incident, all of which confirm that Cheney and the others in the party were walking through a field to covey of quail at the time.
9. Gasbag’s lies are doubly insane in light of the fact that Cheney’s Secret Service detail accompanied him on the hunt. So Gasbag is claiming that the Secret Service detail watched and did not intervene while the VPOTUS, who was so drunk he could not even walk, was blindly shooting a shotgun from a car being driven through a Texas hill country field with other hunters walking.
Greg, you have an incorrigible LIAR posting here under the name of Gasman. He is a disgrace to your blog.
quarterback,
It is truly rich to see you calling anyone else a liar. I stand by my criticism of FauxNews’ transcript editing because it happens so often. If they are so ill served by a third party, they should fire them. FauxNews is ultimately responsible for their own transcripts.
You still haven’t addressed the biggest error of all, O’Reilly’s galling insult of martyred American soldiers by claiming that they had committed mass murder. O’Reilly accused the U.S. soldiers of doing what the SS troops had actually done. Was that fair and balanced? He never did admit or apologize for disgraceful insult to the honored memories of our war dead.
As for Cheney, he is a congenital liar. That he would lie and order those around him to lie to cover for him is no big surprise, it is simply his m.o. in nearly all matters. There have been instances when members of his Secret Service detail refused to lie to protect Cheney. In an incident in Colorado Springs, several in Cheney’s detail wanted to arrest a man that told off Cheney, claiming that he assaulted him. If someone assaulted the V.P., they would have been very physically arrested on the spot. A member of Cheney’s detail objected saying that it did not happen the way others in the detail said it did. His version corroborated that of the alleged “assaulter.” There is a track record of some on Cheney’s detail being willing to “bend” the truth to protect Cheney. That you would proclaim his veracity is telling.
It is troubling that the Secret Service did not intervene when a clearly drunken Cheney was wielding a gun, just as it is troubling that they kept the local law enforcement from interviewing Cheney until he had the opportunity to sober up. If he wasn’t drunk, why the delay?
Gasbag, you truly are 100% committed to making an unending public spectacle of yourself as not only a colossal fraud an liar but as a complete buffoon. And this latest installment in your diary of madness is classic.
After I have FACTUALLY RIPPED YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF FOX-DOCTORED TRANSCRIPTS TO SHREDS, you finally give up but nevertheless “stand by” your general accusation of transcript doctoring “because it happens so often” — except that the examples you gave I conclusively disproved. You repeated Ubermoron/MMA lies and were exposed along with them.
Your response is a classic paraonoid conspiracy response — or better yet one worthy of Stalin. The examples you offered and gave to prove your accusation were PROVEN LIES BY YOU. But, no matter to you, you just say the accusation is true anyway.
Just so we’re clear, then, no matter how many of your bogus examples of supposedly doctored transcripts are disproved, you’ll just say, well, they still do it. And you will continue to make that accusation without being able to cite a single example, let alone the “hundreds” or “thousands” you say it would be “easy” to “trot out.”
This conclusively establishes that you are not engaged in any sort of rational discourse but are simply depraved of mind and utterly dismissive of, or unable to comprehend, basic rules of logic and rationality. PROOF AND FACTS ARE IRRELEVANT TO YOUR MAD AND VILE CALUMNIES.
In addition, your accusation was not about “errors” like misspeaking about WWI war crimes. It was that Fox intentionally falisfies transcripts, and intentionally falsified that transcript. You can rave all you want about O’Reilly’s error. All that matters is: YOU LIED. FOX DID NOTHING OF THE KIND.
So now you assert without a shred of proof that Cheney is a “congenital liar,” trying further to divert attention from the falisty of your accusations against Fox. Again behaving like a perfect Stalinist or “McCarthyite” conspiracy theorist, you assert that Cheney told all the witnesses including the Secret Service to lie. Your proof? Why, your own bald assertion that this is Cheney’s “m.o. in nearly all things.”
So, again, your original accusations are contradicted by all the evidence, and you just assert that this is further proof that Cheney is a liar and there was a cover up.
Let’s look at your unsourced anecdotes about this supposed “m.o.” of Cheney’s. You say there was once an incident in which “several in Cheney’s detail wanted to arrest a man” for assaulting Cheney.
How about you get back to us when you have some proof that CHENEY, the man you are accusing, wanted them to make a false arrest. You haven’t even cited any evidence for the claim you do make that some in his detail wanted to, let alone that Cheney had anything to do with it.
There are no words strong enough to describe your vileness.
quarterback,
You cannot possibly contend that FauxNews is “fair and balanced.”
As for Cheney, do you think that he has been truthful about his Energy Conference, Iraq, WMDs, Al Queda, torture, Joseph Wilson & Valerie Plame, to cite just a few of his problems with “truthiness?”
You are truly amazing. You puff yourself up, and as much as it is possible in print, you shrilly and loudly proclaim all of your opponents to be the greatest liars in the history of the universe, socialists, communists, fascists, or most recently for me, a Stalinist. By the way, you have yet to explain that one. Remember, it’s you and ol’ Joe that both are/were supporters of torture. That would seem to make you a more likely candidate for Stalinism than I.
I am not the only person calling out FauxNews and Cheney as liars and hacks. Your outrage is somewhat amusing.
“There are no words strong enough to describe your vileness.” Why, because I disagree with you? What adjectives do you have left in your thesaurus if someone actually does something truly vile?
“How about you get back to us when you have some proof that CHENEY, the man you are accusing, wanted them to make a false arrest. You haven’t even cited any evidence for the claim you do make that some in his detail wanted to, let alone that Cheney had anything to do with it”
Do you even know how to use Google? Honestly, type in “assault on Cheney in Colorado Springs” and look what pops up:
http://coloradoindependent.com/14936/denver-man-appeals-dick-cheney-subpoena-ruling-in-first-amendment-lawsuit
http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=9933043
If this guy had slapped Cheney as SOME in his Secret Service detail alleged, he would still be in jail. The fact that charges were dropped strongly indicates an overreaction by some in his Secret Service detail.
Maybe before accusing people of being the greatest liars in history, you might want to learn how to do a web search. Sorry to disappoint you, but I clearly did not manufacture this story.
Seriously, either dial back the hyperbole or up your meds, cause not many people take you very seriously. You also might try being less of a putz.