Dana Perino: White House Shouldn’t Attack Conservative Critics Because It Will “Burn Bridges”
An amusing nugget from former White House flack Dana Perino, who complains that the White House shouldn’t aggressively target Obama’s Republican and conservative critics because it will foul up relations with them:
“They won — why don’t they act like it?” said Dana Perino, former White House press secretary to Bush. “The more they fight, the more defensive they look. It’s only been 10 months, and they’re burning bridges in a lot of different places.”
Not sure Perino is the ideal messenger for the line that the Obama administration is being too rough on its political opponents. After all, her administration tried to paint much of the opposition party — not to mention major journalistic institutions like The New York Times — as traitors who were actively encouraging terrorist attacks on our country.
Perino’s claim that Obama administration officials are “burning bridges” with critics seems debatable, too. After all, whether it’s powerful interests running multi-million-dollar ad campaigns attacking Obama’s agenda, or leading conservative media figures attacking Obama as a “racist” who wants to brainwash the nation’s schoolchildren, Obama’s foes never seemed all that interested in maintaining cordial relations with the White House to begin with.
And that’s fine! Politics is a rough business. Seems like whatever bridges that existed were blown to bits and sank to the bottom of the river long ago.
That aside, Obama administration officials are probably touched by Perino’s newfound concern for their political well-being, though.
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Last week Obama wasn’t “tough enough” whereby no one was afraid of him and this week the storyline is that he is a streetbrawler who will crush his opponents. Obama can’t be both…LOL!
In terms of burning bridges, Obama isn’t doing that with anyone. Instead he won’t play with certain entities including FAUX NEWS. Why should he?
“flack dana”. ’nuff said.
You should have seen the flare up on Morning Joe today. Mika pretty much tore into Fox as a network full of hate and Joe got all red as usual and had to defend his hate monger friends over there.
I imagine Mika is tired of Hannity going after her dad on a daily basis by misconstrue what her dad said regarding the administration allowing the Israelis access to Iraqi air space to attack Iran. Hannity the hate monger has been going after her dad pretty hard.
I guess it took someone to go after her family personally to realize the right is all about hatred and building up hatred of the opposition.
I know the Joe and Mike radio show on right wing radio here in the DC area is gone now as of this week. They’ve put Chris Plante back on in it’s place. He’s a piece of work.
I wonder if the Joe and Mika show is off the air for good nationally or not.
nvmind. I answered my own question. Local DC hate radio moved their show to 9pm.
Mike, what time was the Mika thing, and do you think it’s good enough to go back and grab?
It’s amazing to me that they really don’t see it. They just cannot admit or understand that everything they are accusing Obama’s administration of (most of which is entirely untrue) was actually true of their own Bush administration. The collective denial and projection of that administration is truly mind blowing.
Well, it was around 0800 to 0815 or so eastern, right before Joe was stating he was for Bloomberg getting a third term because he’s doing such a good job and Mika making fun of Joe and referring to Bloomberg as King Bloomberg.
They really were at each other. It was pretty funny.
I find it interesting how both Joe and Tapper have both come out in defense of Fox News considering Fox goes after their networks on a daily basis as being in the tank for the Administration. You’ve gotta wonder where their loyalty lies.
As far as if it’s worth it, idk. It was entertaining. But then again, I can sit down and watch a few rounds of bowling on T.V. as I flip through stations and find it entertaining until my wife asks me wtf I’m doing.
“White House Should Not Burn Bridges To No Where” Dana Perino
“The collective denial and projection of that administration is truly mind blowing.”
Don’t you mean “of Republicans” is mind blowing? It’s way, WAY more than just the Bush administration.
heh, thanks Mike. I know what you mean.
You know one thing I haven’t seen pieced into these discussions regarding the Fox Comedy Channel and the WH.
What happened in that meeting between Axelrod and Ailes a few weeks ago when they met for lunch in NYC? Is this the result of that meeting? Is the timing of this flair-up coincidental or not?
Enquirering minds want to know.
“After all, her administration tried to paint much of the opposition party — not to mention major journalistic institutions like The New York Times — as traitors who were actively encouraging terrorist attacks on our country”
And you liberals talk about delusion and paranoia and imaginary attacks and threats.
This post is possibly the worst case of projection and delusion I’ve seen from Greg. It becomes wearisome to say, but if Bush had ever done some of the things Obama is actually doing, I can’t even imagine the left’s volcanic response. Obama has been attacking all of the opposition to his agenda as dishonest, disingeuous, lies, mounted by people only interested in greed and unconcerned with the public or the country, etc. And mounting a sustained attack trying to delegitimize and destroy the only major TV outlet that doesn’t prostrate itself before his greatness. At the same time, it’s reported he had nutjobs Ubermoron and Madcow in as participants in a private, off the record briefing for “journalists.” He couldn’t possibly be more divisive. His most conciliatory message has been the repeated one of, “Shut up and stay out of the way.”
Bush had these same people calling him a treasonous traitor, war criminal, etc. on a daily basis. He had a major network air a story based on forged documents intended to destroy him politically just before the 2004 election. And yet he never, except in liberal imaginations, attacked the media or opposition as Obama has.
Obama has already burned whatever bridges might have existed.
Mika claims that MSNBC is fair and balanced. Because the liberal-approved conservative Joe cohosts their show, typically surrounded by liberals.
Yep, she’s a real paragon of objectivity and credibility.
BBQ,
Yes, I do. I almost added something to that effect. Unfortunately, my own parents are an example of this, which is greatly distressing to me. I made a crack about Glen Beck once and then learned they keep one of his “books” on their coffee table and think he’s got some really valid, important points to make. After that, I kept my mouth shut about birthers and the like. I don’t want to know if they believe that, too. They do believe that we were lucky to have Bush as president during 9/11. It doesn’t seem to occur to them that 9/11 likely happened *because* he was president and too busy playing golf and playing at being president. Ugh.
“WHITE HOUSE SHOULD NOT BURN BRIDGES TO NO WHERE”
Dana Perino
Back in 1998 Larry Summers took his marching orders from the Wall St. Bankers, even though he was in the Clinton White House. He is back in the White House, so he is going to block all efforts to put financial regulations in place, again.
Did any of you watch Frontline last night.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/etc/synopsis.html
“”We didn’t truly know the dangers of the market, because it was a dark market,” says Brooksley Born, the head of an obscure federal regulatory agency — the Commodity Futures Trading Commission [CFTC] — who not only warned of the potential for economic meltdown in the late 1990s, but also tried to convince the country’s key economic powerbrokers to take actions that could have helped avert the crisis. “They were totally opposed to it,” Born says. “That puzzled me. What was it that was in this market that had to be hidden?”
In The Warning, veteran FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk unearths the hidden history of the nation’s worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. At the center of it all he finds Brooksley Born, who speaks for the first time on television about her failed campaign to regulate the secretive, multitrillion-dollar derivatives market whose crash helped trigger the financial collapse in the fall of 2008.
“I didn’t know Brooksley Born,” says former SEC Chairman Arthur Levitt, a member of President Clinton’s powerful Working Group on Financial Markets. “I was told that she was irascible, difficult, stubborn, unreasonable.” Levitt explains how the other principals of the Working Group — former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin — convinced him that Born’s attempt to regulate the risky derivatives market could lead to financial turmoil, a conclusion he now believes was “clearly a mistake.”
Born’s battle behind closed doors was epic, Kirk finds. The members of the President’s Working Group vehemently opposed regulation — especially when proposed by a Washington outsider like Born.
“I walk into Brooksley’s office one day; the blood has drained from her face,” says Michael Greenberger, a former top official at the CFTC who worked closely with Born. “She’s hanging up the telephone; she says to me: ‘That was [former Assistant Treasury Secretary] Larry Summers. He says, “You’re going to cause the worst financial crisis since the end of World War II.”… [He says he has] 13 bankers in his office who informed him of this. Stop, right away. No more.’”
Greenspan, Rubin and Summers ultimately prevailed on Congress to stop Born and limit future regulation of derivatives. “Born faced a formidable struggle pushing for regulation at a time when the stock market was booming,” Kirk says. “Alan Greenspan was the maestro, and both parties in Washington were united in a belief that the markets would take care of themselves.”
Now, with many of the same men who shut down Born in key positions in the Obama administration, The Warning reveals the complicated politics that led to this crisis and what it may say about current attempts to prevent the next one.
“It’ll happen again if we don’t take the appropriate steps,” Born warns. “There will be significant financial downturns and disasters attributed to this regulatory gap over and over until we learn from experience.”
………………………..
If you can catch a rerun of it, I urge you to do so. If not, you should be able to watch it online at the Frontline website.
It will make you mad as hell.
Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers are lucky that they are living in the USA. If they had done to China what they did to the USA, they would have been executed.
Greenspan actually insisted that there should be not regulations in place, to even prevent or prosecute fraud in the financial markets. He got his way. Like I said before, in China, they would have executed him. The problem is Tim Geitner, and Larry Sommers were big time actors in making sure that no regulations were put in place, and now they are calling the shots in the Obama administration. That is why you are seeing the push to regulate the Robber Barons not going anywhere.
The Bankers have their men in place, still
qb. That reporter is off the air if I’m not mistaken.
Will Beck and Hannity be taken off the air for trying to do nothing other than de-legitimize his presidency by creating straw men of Obama and pushing fabricated portrayals of his intentions?
Nope. They will be rewarded for deceiving the public of this presidents intentions.
qb, I claimed nothing. Stop fighting imaginary people.
doh, I read Mika as mike. heh
appologies
But Mika, I’m pretty sure, is a Republican. So, that means both her and Joe are Republicans.
Ya know what burns bridges? The War in Iraq.
Message for Ms. Dana Perino
Your White House Burned Bridges
To The Scientific Community,
To The G@y & Lesbian Community.
To The Equal Pay For Women Community.
To the Pro-Choice Community.
To The Anti-Torture Community.
To The Environmental Protection Community.
To the Workers’ Rights Community.
To the Minimum Wage Raise Community.
To The Rescue The Stranded American Citizens In New Orleans, Community.
And many more besides.
Politico has come up with a theory about this WH.
Here’s what I think is happening. The Republican brand stinks right now. It’s gone nowhere but down since 1/21/2009. They have lower approval ratings than Bush did at his lowest which is pretty low.
If this admin can tie Fox as being an extension of the Republican party around Fox’s neck, they could possibly tie that unfavorable rating around them and discredit whatever newsworthiness label Fox still has.
Axelrod is the epitome of walk softly but carry a big stick.
The deal is, if you don’t like the message, marginalize the messenger. That’s what they’re doing.
Do I like Fox, no. Do I like the White House stooping to their level.. no, I don’t like that either.
- Tom
SPILL, BABY, SPILL!
The U.S. Coast Guard said Wednesday it was responding to a tanker collision in the Gulf of Mexico 40 miles offshore Texas, which resulted in an 18,000 gallon oil spill.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/10/tanker_collision_spills_18000_gallons_of_oil_off_t.php
To Hell With Being Nice To Faux News. It does not matter how nice President Obama could be to them, they would still smear him, every day, non stop.
He is just telling the truth about them.
Like President Truman said, when someone yelled: give them hell Harry.
President Truman replied: I just tell the truth about them, and they think they are in Hell.
Up at DKos: The South……………………
Obama favorability
Fav Unfav
All 55 37
South 27 68
Rest of USA 67 24
NE 82 7
Midwest 62 30
West 59 32
Democratic Party favorability
Fav Unfav
All 41 51
South 21 72
NE 62 26
Midwest 44 48
West 44 50
Republican Party favorability
Fav Unfav
All 21 67
South 48 37
NE 6 87
Midwest 10 78
West 12 75
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/21/795220/-GOP-looks-great-in-South,-not-so-much-in-the-rest-of-America
The Republicans are now just a rump party.
Their real name should be:
The Neo-Confederate Party.
@mike
“But Mika, I’m pretty sure, is a Republican. So, that means both her and Joe are Republicans.”
I’m pretty sure Mika is just an empty shell, totally unable to formulate an opinon for herself. I’ve never seen her make any sort of substantive contribution to that (already terrible) show.
@Ethan
I’m curious if at any point other polling firms will start breaking things down according to geography as well. Maybe not as a regular thing, but it’d be good for someone to at least confirm/disprove the numbers we’re seeing.
What a f^#*(@&*g hypocrite. She and her boys in the WH and her predecessor Ari constantly denigrated and demonized their opponents. On top of that she is the db that bragged about training her dog to retrieve her smelly flipflop when she called out “Kerry”. She and her other worm friends should crawl back in underground. The Repugnant Party knows how to dish but cry when it comes around and bites them in the ***. Stop whining you GOP wimps!
BBQ, yeah, makes you wonder why they don’t ALL ask people’s geography…. Seems like a no-brainer.
RE: Faux News War, this is a must-read from Think Progress:
Rove: ‘People Would Go Nuts’ If Bush Had Campaigned Against NBC, New York Times
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/21/rove-nuts/
Another from TP:
Franken Schools Right-Wing Analyst On Medical Bankruptcies In Countries With Universal Care: ‘It’s Zero’
FRANKEN: I think we disagree on whether health care reform, the health care reform that we’re talking about in Congress now should pass. You should that the way we’re going will increase bankruptcies. I want to ask you, how many medical bankruptcies because of medical crises were there last year in Switzerland?
FURCHTGOTT-ROTT: I don’t have that number in front of me, but I can find out and get back to you.
FRANKEN: I can tell you how many it was. It’s zero. Do you know how many medical bankruptcies there were last year in France?
FURCHTGOTT-ROTT: I don’t have that number, but I can get back to you if I like.
FRANKEN: Yeah, the number is zero. Do you know how many were in Germany?
FURCHTGOTT-ROTT: From the trend of your questions, I’m assuming the number is zero. But I don’t know the precise number and would have to get back to you.
FRANKEN: Well, you’re very good. Very fast. The point is, I think we need to go in that direction, not the opposite direction. Thank you.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/21/al-franken-grills-hudson/
Al Franken = BRILLIANT!
Mike from A,
Actually, Dan Rather is still on the air from somewhere, but in any event that isn’t the point, now, is it? It was one of the greatest journalistic frauds ever perpetrated, and still I don’t recall the Bush WH mounting an offensive to declar CBS “not a news organization.”
And, please, don’t try to tell anyone that liberals never said all those things about Bush. You make a fool of yourself. We’ve been through it umpty-ump times.
Nor did George Bush ever once do what Obama has done, e.g., use an address to Congress literally to denounce his opponents as liars who don’t care about the country. If you have some examples to the contrary, please share them, Otherwise, give it a rest already. Obama uses the office like a Chicago thug politician, just as Axelrod has taught him, and just as Axelrod tells him. Bush didn’t do likewise.
Remember when the Bush White House gave press credentials to a guy who was not a journalist, and actually ran a porn website?
The guy even staid overnight in the White House.
What was that guys name? Gannon, Cannon or some thing like that. Was it Jeff Gannon?
OK, A quick Google search confirms that it was Jeff Gannon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
“conservative columnist better known by the pseudonym Jeff Gannon. Between 2003 and 2005, he was given credentials as a White House reporter. He was eventually employed by the news organization Talon News during the latter part of this period. Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, when he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered “so friendly it might have been planted.”[1] Gannon routinely obtained daily passes to White House briefings, attending four Bush press conferences and appearing regularly at White House press briefings. Although he did not qualify for a Congressional press pass, Gannon was given daily passes to White House press briefings “after supplying his real name, date of birth and Social Security number.”[2] Gannon came under public scrutiny for his lack of a journalistic background prior to his work with Talon[3][4] and his involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name “Bulldog”. Gannon resigned from Talon News on February 8, 2005. Continuing to use the name Gannon, he has since created his own official homepage and worked for a time as a columnist for the Washington Blade newspaper, where he confirmed he was gay after he was outed.[5]
Most recently, Gannon operated JeffGannon.com, a blog where he criticized those who exposed him, the “Old Media” and the “Angry Gay Left”, accusing them of promoting a double standard.[6] The site has since been taken offline and the domain expired. He recently published a book titled The Great Media War.
Contents”
edit:
the guy even stayed….
Ethan,
Your “must read” link from Thinkprogress is an “epic fail,” if that’s still the term you use around campus.
Bush made a private comment about a reporter that was overheard. And that is equivalent to the Obama war on Fox???
Ed Gillespie sent a detailed letter to NBC taking specific issue with deceptive video editing and bias in specific “news” comments. That is the same as the Obama war on Fox as “not a news organization”???
Try again.
Penn Gillette re Beck, Fox, and people who complain without watching:
“I sat on TV, while my hero Tommy Smothers yelled in my face how pissed off he was at me for appearing on Glenn Beck. It broke my heart.”
http://crackle.com/c/Penn_Says/Getting_Yelled_At_by_One_of_My_Heroes/2479927/
via HotAir, very interesting.
Looks like Quarterbrain, and The Racist are eager to skip over this;
Remember when the Bush White House gave press credentials to a guy who was not a journalist, and actually ran a porn website?
The guy even staid overnight in the White House.
OK, A quick Google search confirms that it was Jeff Gannon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
“conservative columnist better known by the pseudonym Jeff Gannon. Between 2003 and 2005, he was given credentials as a White House reporter. He was eventually employed by the news organization Talon News during the latter part of this period. Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, when he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered “so friendly it might have been planted.”[1] Gannon routinely obtained daily passes to White House briefings, attending four Bush press conferences and appearing regularly at White House press briefings. Although he did not qualify for a Congressional press pass, Gannon was given daily passes to White House press briefings “after supplying his real name, date of birth and Social Security number.”[2] Gannon came under public scrutiny for his lack of a journalistic background prior to his work with Talon[3][4] and his involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name “Bulldog”. Gannon resigned from Talon News on February 8, 2005. Continuing to use the name Gannon, he has since created his own official homepage and worked for a time as a columnist for the Washington Blade newspaper, where he confirmed he was gay after he was outed.[5]
Most recently, Gannon operated JeffGannon.com, a blog where he criticized those who exposed him, the “Old Media” and the “Angry Gay Left”, accusing them of promoting a double standard.[6] The site has since been taken offline and the domain expired. He recently published a book titled The Great Media War.
Contents”
Liam:
“Their real name should be:
The Neo-Confederate Party.”
Works for me.
Then we can secede and have our own nation again and stop pretending that we share any kind of values with each other.
Just think of it Liam…you can call us racists to your heart’s content without ever worrying about losing votes in a “national” election.
You can keep all the tax dollars that are net lost to your states,
And you can starve and freeze to death to the sounds of the muezzin while unemployed in the nanny-state Socialist dung-heap that remains to you.
Or not…maybe the Canadians would let you join.
What’s not to like?
qb, can you read?
“President Bush never gave the New York Times a single interview throughout his presidency.”
Never in EIGHT YEARS did he grant an interview to one of the most important newspapers of our time.
What part of ‘never’ do you not understand?
Bilgey,
From your racist mouth to God’s ear. Off you go then, Foreigner.
What happens in the USA, in no longer any concern of yours.
@Ethan,
But George W. Bush was too busy catering to the planted questions of Jeff Gannon, to have any time for the New York Times!
Ethan,
You should try to have a logical argument before you go for the juvenile put down. When you show me where Bush and his aides denounced the NYT as not a legitimate news organization, we can talk. Until then, you have nothing to talk about.
Okay, this has GOT to take the cake for the most transparently obvious example of the difference between the two political parties.
Dems on the one hand:
Dem-run House Judiciary Votes to Strip Health Insurance Industry of Anti-trust Exemption
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/10/health_insurers_may_lose_antitrust_exemption.php
GOP on the other:
Sen. Orrin Hatch is asking President Barack Obama to launch a Justice Department investigation into college football’s Bowl Championship Series over antitrust laws.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/10/ap_newsbreak_obama_urged_to_investigate_bcs.php
I mean. Cmon. Doesn’t that just SAY IT ALL???
“President Bush said on Thursday that he did not believe Senator John Kerry lied about his war record, but he declined to condemn the television commercial paid for by a veterans group alleging that Mr. Kerry came by his war medals dishonestly.
Mr. Bush’s comments, in a half-hour interview with The New York Times…”
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/27/politics/campaign/27bush.html?hp
qb, if he thought they were legit he would have given them an interview.
Or better yet, why don’t you tell me why he didn’t give them an interview.
I’m ready to hear your explanation.
No, Ethan, you aren’t going to change the point. Not giving an interview isn’t denouncing the NYT and mounting a campaign to delegitimize it as a news organization. It makes no difference why Bush shunned the NYT. I assume it was because the NYT was viciously hostile to him and made a cottage industry of, for example, publishing leaks of national security secrets to undermine him. Makes no difference why.
Obama’s war on Fox is entirely different. It’s a cynical propoganda technique and attempt to suppress dissent and inconvenient information. They can’t take on the facts, so they are attacking the messenger. If Bush had done the same, you would have been calling for impeachment.
“I Am Not Going To Condemn Those Swiftboaters Who Lied About Senator Kerry’s Vietnam War Record”. George W. Bush
Bush is still a two-faced weasel, just like his father, who is now calling people sick puppies, while complaining about the lack of civility.
This was the very same George Herbert Walker Bush who called then nominees Clinton and Gore; “a couple of Bozos”.
Yes indeed, Papa Bush has always been a paragon of civility.
“a couple of Bozos”
Hilarious!
Looks like sbj proved the NYT is mistaken in any event. What a surprise, the NYT reported having interviewed Bush but still claims it never did. Accuracy never was NYT’s strong suit.
Quarterbrain is to accuracy what Paris Hilton is to Celibacy.
Ethan:
“SPILL, BABY, SPILL!
The U.S. Coast Guard said Wednesday it was responding to a tanker collision in the Gulf of Mexico 40 miles offshore Texas, which resulted in an 18,000 gallon oil spill.”
Being a Moonbat imbecile, I realize that the fact totally escapes you how developing America’s offshore domestic petroleum reserves, which are typically delivered to the mainland via pipeline, will mean less need for 820′ long flag-of-convenience Liberian tankers off our coasts.
But it is.
D’uhhhh!
FWIW, 40 miles out is pretty far for a 166′ OSV, and 5′ seas with a 40 knot wind is not a fun ride on a boat that small.
quarterback:
“# quarterback | October 21st, 2009 at 02:31 pm
Looks like sbj proved the NYT is mistaken in any event. What a surprise, the NYT reported having interviewed Bush but still claims it never did. Accuracy never was NYT’s strong suit.”
I, for one, find the “truthiness” of the paper here in the Age of Obama so very ‘enchanting”.
You?
While on the subject of MSM accuracy:
Do any of you slobbering moonbats have a body count of how many CNN reporters BushitlerHalliCheneyRoveCo’s US military gakked in Iraq?
‘member THIS?:
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/02/jordan/
Bilgeman,
Sends a tingle up my leg, it truly does.
Good call on that spill, Ethan. Domestic oil production would mean less international tanker traffic, fewer tanker spills . . . so obviously we don’t want that.
Does anyone here ever think something through before posting this goofball stuff?
Said Liam:
“Your White House Burned Bridges
To The Scientific Community,
To The G@y & Lesbian Community.
To The Equal Pay For Women Community.
To the Pro-Choice Community.
To The Anti-Torture Community.
To The Environmental Protection Community.
To the Workers’ Rights Community.
To the Minimum Wage Raise Community.
To The Rescue The Stranded American Citizens In New Orleans, Community.
And many more besides.”
Let me get this straight…you’re a unionized Lesbian scientist who makes minimum wage at an unsafe laboratory at which you are tortured,and on the roof of which you are still stranded by polluted flood waters 4 years after Katrina.
Have I got that portion right?
“They can’t take on the facts”
So according to you, Fox News provides facts. HAHAHA!
That is truly hysterical and illustrative of how far from sanity and reality you actually are. Ignorant, deluded and obnoxious to boot.
Really, qb, you’re quite the shining star of the Michael Steele GOP.
Hahaha. Only to the Michael Steele GOP would more domestic oil production mean less oil spills.
Video clip of White House Press Secretary, Dana Perino standing at her podium, while Attacking NBC News.
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002274/
Why did Faux News not come to the defense of NBC News back then, like they now want other networks to defend them.Hmmmmm!
About Dana Perino…my mom always said if you can’t say something nice about someone……welll……
Dana Perino is truly a hottie! Sorry for what some will call a chauvinist post but I thought…and thought..and..that’s about it…she is a hottie.
@Rukidding,
If you start talking like that about Quitter Palin, I will be forced to arrange an Intervention.
@Liam,
Perhaps I’ve morphed into a dirty old man but I’m not that off the wall. Alas I did not see stars and flashes or whatever when Sarah winked at me during the debate.
“Really, qb, you’re quite the shining star of the Michael Steele GOP.”
But I once again destroyed your argument, which your surrender confirms.
“Why did Faux News not come to the defense of NBC News back then, like they now want other networks to defend them.Hmmmmm!”
Because the two events are completely different. The Bush WH sent a detailed letter to NBC demonstrating that it had misleadingly edited an interview. Perino was asked about it. Obama, on the other hand, has sent his minions to denounce Fox as not a legitimate news organization.
Keep in mind he is also denouncing and threatening lots of other industries and people — insurers, Wall Street, the CoC, and their executives. Do you think there isn’t a message there not to be associated with Fox? Surely there is.
HAHA.. What bridges… the nutty right burned it behind them
Domestic oil production would mean increased tanker traffic due to the fact that oil is an internationally traded commodity. Alaska exports oil to Japan, and did so even when California was paying five dollars a gallon or more for gas.
And the reichwingers who are convinced that the NYT and WAPO are left wing don’t seem to remember the amount of time, money, and effort those papers spent manufacturing the Whitewater, Wen Ho Lee, and Iraq War/WMD false controversies. Calling those the liberal press is a classic misdirection-Judy Miller may as well have worked for Bush and Cheney, and even today they are both dominated by Neoconservative propagandists like Krauthammer, Will, and their ilk who coordinate messages and repeat Luntz-manufactured phrases like good little robots on tv. Not talking to Fox, which is basically Der Sturmer for television, is a brilliant move but only a small step in diminishing the right wing ownership of the media. If it wasn’t for the internet, we would have to go to samizdat papers to get away from the GOP’s admitted ownership of all media outlets.
Ethan:
“Hahaha. Only to the Michael Steele GOP would more domestic oil production mean less oil spills.”
I could almost pity you…
“Most of the people who graduated in the sixties, drop-outs, or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, [and the] educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated; they are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind[s], even if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people… the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible.” Former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov, interviewed in 1985.
You really should google his name and watch the interviews on YouTube.
You would maybe understand why you think the way you think and act the way you act.
Fox news coverage is even biased and slanted. Im no flaming lib either.
Dick Hertz:
“Domestic oil production would mean increased tanker traffic due to the fact that oil is an internationally traded commodity. Alaska exports oil to Japan, and did so even when California was paying five dollars a gallon or more for gas”
Do you want to know WHY Alaska sends it’s oil to Japan?
Petroleum is not a uniform commodity, you might not know.
Alaskan petroleum is high in sulfur content, rendering it what is known in the trade as “sour”.
Sour, as opposed to “sweet” petroleum presents some additional complications in the refining process into “downstream” product…gasoline, kerosene and diesel,(among others).
The Japanese have long had expertise in refining sour crude. While the only refinery able to handle large amounts of it for the East Coast is the Amerada Hess refinery on St, Croix in the USVI.
Domestic reserves that are developed are most likely to be used domestically, and that puts the lie to your “internationally traded commodity” notions.
In fact most Mexican and Canadian petroleum arrives at our refineries or at our tank farms via pipeline, which is the cheapest long-term way to transport the stuff.
Dude…get a clue, this is my industry that you’re talking about,
Bilgey,
You are just confused, as usual. We are talking about the Oil business.
You are in The Slime business. Not the same thing at all; you crazy old secessionist, birther, racist slime ball.
So it was OK for Bush and Reagan to attack Unions, but President Obama is not allowed to criticize corrupt business practices.
I told you folks. His name should be Quarterbrain!
# Liam | October 21st, 2009 at 03:07 pm
Video clip of White House Press Secretary, Dana Perino standing at her podium, while Attacking NBC News.
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002274/
Why did Faux News not come to the defense of NBC News back then, like they now want other networks to defend them.Hmmmmm!
Earlier today. Quarterbrain was peddling his meme, that Obama was attacking the messenger, when he criticized Faux News.
Now that I have shown him a clip of Dana Perino attacking NBC News, on behalf of the Bush Admn, suddenly Quarterbrain is making excuses for The Bush White House “Attacking The Messenger”
Quarterbrain Indeed!
“But I once again destroyed your argument, which your surrender confirms.”
HAHAHA! SURRENDER? Yes. I surrender to the fact that you think like Michael Steele. For you to “destroy my argument” you’d have to convince me that Fox News provides 100% factual news content. That is clinically impossible. Your argument is, like you, a fraud.
“this is my industry that you’re talking about”
Well there ya have it. Bilge is an admitted oil shill. Not much more need be said other than SPILL BABY SPILL!
So, just so I understand… Quarterback is making the argument that Fox News IS a legitimate news organization? How about proof to that effect?
Jen:
“Quarterback is making the argument that Fox News IS a legitimate news organization? How about proof to that effect”
ACORN…did you hear about it from the WaPo? Charles Gibson of ABC News thought it was something “to be left to the cables”.
Then it became news.
How about Van Jones? Clark Hoyt of the New York Times admitted that the Times hadn’t been doing the “newsy” thing, and had essentially ignored the story, which left Glenn Beck to publicize.
It was “news” because Van Jones departed his “Green Jobs Czar” post on a Saturday morning, wailing all the way.
You need more?
Ethan:
“Well there ya have it. Bilge is an admitted oil shill. Not much more need be said other than SPILL BABY SPILL!”
And you do what for a living?
Oh, that’s right. You’re unemployed and unemployable, so by what you use for logic, that makes you a shill for government welfare benefits.
Like I said, I could almost pity you your demoralization in your country, except that you cling to it so tenaciously.
I wonder though, who it is that you are so badly in need of impressing by such a monstrous thing?
No-one is going to give YOU a Nobel Peace Prize.
This is why I no longer wish to have people like you in my country, and have no desire to share a country with your ilk.
Begone from us, End your illegal occupation of the Confederacy.
Republican Dana Perino is still selling bridges?
And the left is still getting conned by these right wing hucksters?
That the Republican Con Artist Party is still selling US bridges (the same Republican Party that sold US Palin’s Bridge to Nowhere) is one thing, Republican’s are con artists, it’s who they are, but that anyone is still buying it is the really sad part.
Bilgeyboy. Listen, after you get a 5th-grade education let’s talk. Until then, keep your spills to yourself and keep your hands off AMERICAN oil reserves, traitor.
SHILL BABY SHILL!
Ethan:
“Bilgeyboy. Listen, after you get a 5th-grade education let’s talk. Until then, keep your spills to yourself and keep your hands off AMERICAN oil reserves, traitor.”
Run out of arguments?
Fling some poo, monkey-boi!
Ethan:
Oh, and WHOSE oil reserves, exactly?
Here’s a little offshore-drilling graphic for you.
Note where drilling is allowed.
http://littlemissattila.mu.nu/archives/home/attila/www/archives/The%20No%20Zone.jpg
That’s Confederate oil, buckaroo.
Hope you enjoy your new job inside a coal mine…oh that’s right, coal is “dirty”, so you won’t be allowed to burn it this winter.
Better start splitting firewood now then.
So a right wing traitor wants to secede from the US because he doesn’t believe in Democracy?
Bilgewater, you are welcome to leave our American nation, but you don’t get to secede.
Maybe you can sell your Oil Bridge’s to Nowhere in the right wing’s Libertarian Paradise of Somalia.
The only the fools buying your Bilgewater are the Republican Fox Propaganda watchers.
But thanks for articulating the right wing’s militant extremism.
When you talk about your adoration of the Confederacy, Bilgewater, it’s crystal clear what you believe.
The Confederacy was all about slavery and selling human beings as property.
News Reference:
“Bilgewater, you are welcome to leave our American nation, but you don’t get to secede”
Ah, now…are you ready to fight and die to keep us in?
I’m not sure that you lot are read to fight some 7th century cave-dwelling ragamuffins in Afghanistan to prevent them from providing sfae harbor to people who fly passenger jets into New York skyscrapers.
You near soiled yourself over a bunch of Iraqi insurgents who went “POP!” went you shot ‘em.
You willing to take on Texans?
Hmm?
The stakes overseas are for far greater than you might care to realize, ace.
Now for my part, I’d be quite happy to see YOU go. Best of luck to y’all and don’t come back now, heah?
Perino is SUCH an empty suit…
The last Republican Texas governer in charge of America lied US into the wrong war (Iraq) while abandoning the war where those that attacked US were holed up in (Afghanistan).
And Republican Party politicians avoid armed service as a tradition: Republican Ronald Reagan didn’t serve, Republican Cheney didn’t serve, even Republican Bush II was drunk in Alabama while avoiding combat, Republican Mitt Romney was even hiding in France to avoid combat (literally).
There are some notable exceptions and they should be commended.
But look at what Republicans do to Americans who actually saw combat: Democratic Senator Kerry served IN COMBAT IN VIETNAM and Republicans vilified him.
Former Democratic Senator Max Cleland, who saw lost three limbs in combat, was Swift-Boated by sleazy Republican cowards.
And “College Republicans” are notorious cowards who have evaded service in the military for eight solid years while our country has been at war.
And while our country was in two wars (three if you count the GWOT) Republicans have been alternately demanding tax cuts (because they didn’t want to pay for the wars that they started and didn’t serve in) and/or justifying war profiteering while denying our veterans body armor, MRAPs, and decent medical care.
And now we’ve got terrorists like Bilgewater making militant threats because he’s an anti-democratic slaver who thinks violence and threats is the way to accomplish his vicious agenda.
Who’s going to help you, Bilgewater? Republican Mitt “French Vacation to avoid Vietnam” Romney? Republican George “Drunk in Alabama to avoid Vietnam” Bush? Republican war criminal Dick “The ******” Cheney, who received five deferments?
Real Texans won’t put up with your un-American nonsense, Bilgewater.
Clearly you’re not a real Texan.
But you’re certainly un-American.
“HAHAHA! SURRENDER? Yes. I surrender to the fact that you think like Michael Steele. For you to “destroy my argument” you’d have to convince me that Fox News provides 100% factual news content. That is clinically impossible. Your argument is, like you, a fraud.”
When you give up the argument and resort to ad hominem and playground insults, because you can’t even address the facts I cited, you have surrendered.
I only have to show that your claims are wrong, which I did. I don’t have to “convince” you, a delusional, Stalinist meth-head, that everything on Fox is “100% factual content,” whatever that means.
The argument ended like every one with you: You make absurd claims, they are factually refuted, and you stomp your feet and fling poo and deny defeat. You’re just like that Monty Python knight with a mere “flesh wound.”
And a sad example of our educational system. You probably got this screwed up because some radical professors told you how smart you are for regurgitating leftist drivel instead of telling you the truth that your reasoning and arguments are doltish.
News,
Way to repeat a set of stupid Dem propoganda attacks. It’s really refreshing since, like, no one has ever heard those penetrating insights before.
All one needs to see is your woefully ignorant — or just dishonest — comments about Cleland to know you are just blowing hot air.
Former Democratic Senator Max Cleland saw combat in Vietnam and lost three limbs there.
Slimy Republican cowards attacked him in order to win an election.
But that’s what Republicans do: Disrespect America’s Veterans.
Republican cowards make a lot of noise but ultimately don’t want to pay for the wars they start and rarely, if ever, serve in those wars.
And when Veterans return home, Republicans turn their backs on them.
Consider the Walter Reed Hospital scandal, Republican Bush neglected America’s wounded soldiers. The same Republican Bush who didn’t provide adequate troops, denied American troops adequate body armor, denied American troops the requested MRAPs.
And all the while the Republican Party demanded tax cuts even while borrowing money from the Chinese for the various wars that the Republicans refused to serve in.
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By the way, nickleback, spell-check before you post, when you whine about the liberal “educational system”, and then you misspell words, it suggests that you would have significantly benefited from a liberal education.
It’s bad enough that you are historically inaccurate, clearly living in a conservative fantasy land, but to not even be able to spell…
tsk, tsk…
Old News,
You’re full of it. Cleland saw comabat. He lost his limbs in a non-combat accident. And that’s it.
He lost re-election because he could defend his record. He wasn’t “attacked” any more than every candidate is “attacked” by his opponent, and no one questioned his patriotism or any of that baloney you lying hypocrites spread. He disgraced himself by playing the victim and playing the patriotism card — and he will always be disgraced for lowering himself that way. He tried to use his Vietnam experience and injuries to immunize himself from any criticism, attacking the patriotism of anyone who dared question him.
It was disgusting and shameful — even more so that John “I Served In Vietnam and Won Medals” Kerry. This from a party that gave us the draft dodger Bill “I Loathe the Military” Clinton and ran scurrilous campaigns against genuine WWII heros Bush 41 and Bob Dole.
So take your phony flag-waving and stick it, and stop attacking the pattriotism of Republicans.
The rest of your rant isn’t even worth responsse. Btw, I left all the missspeelings jost for u, you ignoramus. You couldn’t hope to carry my bags in a contest of education or intelligence.
“”"I don’t have to “convince” you, a delusional, Stalinist meth-head, that everything on Fox is “100% factual content,” whatever that means.”"”
Hahaha. Hilarious. So you’re not only admitting that Fox News isn’t 100% factual content, you don’t even understand what that MEANS! Wow, you really get dumber and dumber with every post.
“stop attacking the pattriotism of Republicans”
You don’t even know that the News is based on Facts. How are we to expect you to understand what it means to be a patriot?
Ethan,
In case you weren’t aware of it, there are opinion and commentary shows on Fox. See, opinion and fact are not really the same thing. If you’re aware of a media outlet that is “100% factual content,” I’d be interested to know what it is.
I am aware of it. I watch Fox News. The news portion of the channel is based on opinion, not facts. The opinion portion of the programming is based on outright lies.
Well, then, that takes us back to the original point you have been evading, which was that your attempt to equate Obama’s attack of Fox as not a legitimate news organization to Bush’s critique of a doctored video aired by NBC or the FALSE claim that Bush never gave an interview to the NYT is completely bogus.
Obama is now trying to literally dictate which media organizations are legitimate, based on whether he likes their content, and simultaneously threatening broad swathes of industry with government retribution. Bush never did anything remotely like it. That makes your guy an authoritarian at the least. You can stop making foolish generalizations about Fox. You lost the argument.
qb, you have such little regard for common sense and factual reality that there’s literally no point in talking to you. I hope Obama continues to marginalize Fox News because they have proven over many years that they are extremist ideologues and frauds, not news reporters. The fact that this is blatantly obvious to everyone EXCEPT dead-ender ideologues like you just shows how pervasive their brainwashing has been in the Republican Party. Obama is brilliant to further codify the special relationship between the extremist Fox News fringe and the mainstream Republican Party.
Ethan,
You are a broken record. The facts fail you, so you spout rhetoric about what is “blatantly obvious” — to everyone at your little Revolutionary Youth League meetings. I addressed concrete facts; you copped out and reverted to self-reassurring blather.
You’ve just given up the old “Bush did it too” excuse to openly say Obama is obviously “briliant” for the unprecedented bullying tactics he is using to suppress dissent. Time will tell whether everyone not on the Obama bandwagon is an irrelevant fringe. Don’t look at the polls though, or your sense of insecurity might increase as you see just how small and shrinking your island of extremism is.
Mkay dude.
Good, glad we are in agreement!
Republicans “patriotism” is whatever they can sell it to to the highest bidder.
Republicans sold out American jobs to foreign corporations.
Republicans sold out American children to corporate polluters and left those American children with trillions of debt while those same Republicans funneled money offshore to secret bank accounts in the Cayman Islands and Dubai and Switzerland.
Republicans sold out American troops to Republican Cheney’s KBR/Haliburton (which is now working out of P.O. Box in Dubai) which electrocuted American troops with shoddy electrical systems.
Republicans sell out their “patriotism” for less than 30 pieces of silver every chance they get.
Republicans sold out America.