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		<title>By: ex hillary supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex hillary supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh 15% of the voters voting 4 times each makes it look like 60% of the voters are on his side-and that doesn&#039;t include dead voters....bite it! SHOW AN ID OR YOU DON&quot;T GET TO VOTE..PERIOD. THAT SHOULD BE THE law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh 15% of the voters voting 4 times each makes it look like 60% of the voters are on his side-and that doesn&#8217;t include dead voters&#8230;.bite it! SHOW AN ID OR YOU DON&#8221;T GET TO VOTE..PERIOD. THAT SHOULD BE THE law!</p>
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		<title>By: ex hillary supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex hillary supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ONLY 15% ARE REAL SUPPORTERS OF BARKO BAMA. That&#039;s the facts but the radical left likes to over poll to put it mildly and to make it look like he has way more support than he actually does. If a person of the 15% votes 4 times in 4 different precincts, it will make it look like barryo has more than 15%..BUT HE DOESN&#039;T. ARMED WITH THIS FACT, YOU KNOW NOW WHAT TO DO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONLY 15% ARE REAL SUPPORTERS OF BARKO BAMA. That&#8217;s the facts but the radical left likes to over poll to put it mildly and to make it look like he has way more support than he actually does. If a person of the 15% votes 4 times in 4 different precincts, it will make it look like barryo has more than 15%..BUT HE DOESN&#8217;T. ARMED WITH THIS FACT, YOU KNOW NOW WHAT TO DO.</p>
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		<title>By: ex hillary supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex hillary supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And further more, speaking of a &#039;coup de tate&#039;...we already had one here in the US of A. Remember when they gave Hillary&#039;s delegates to brako bama to make it look like he won? That&#039;s an American &#039;coup de tate&#039;. Americans are not as dumb as you think we are. Wise up! We will not forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And further more, speaking of a &#8216;coup de tate&#8217;&#8230;we already had one here in the US of A. Remember when they gave Hillary&#8217;s delegates to brako bama to make it look like he won? That&#8217;s an American &#8216;coup de tate&#8217;. Americans are not as dumb as you think we are. Wise up! We will not forget.</p>
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		<title>By: ex hillary supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex hillary supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dems are done. Hillary is done. Nothing to see here. Keep on moving. Better yet, go read the stimulous bill and find out where the 2 trillion missing dollars went to. You will scream when you find out it (billions each) went back into the pockets of all the congressional leaders. Read it! Billions are being stolen from us. My high tax rate is killing me. I get a nice paycheck. With the high taxes taken out there are scraps left for me.I can&#039;t live on scraps. Kick the bums out. Recall all of them. Read the bill now!
Is anybody on our side? Oh yeah, that&#039;s right Palin is. dum dee dum. Just wait until we kick them all out. Evil has no power. Only those with ethics and &#039;under God&#039; as this country is supposed to be, have real sustainable power. Read the porkulous bill. Get out your calculator and see it was for congress members pocketbooks that&#039;s all.....you have been bamboozled. I&#039;m ashamed of Hillary. How can you do this to us? I will not vote for you ever again. Stop towing the Islamo/fascist meme for this creepy administration. You are embarassing us. We thought you were better than that before you sold us out to China in your eminent domain pact with them. You are securitizing our properties with borrowing money for a stimulous bill that lines congress and their cronies ersonal pockets with billions each... Never again. You are all done. Go retire on Martha&#039;s Vineyard. You are embarassing yourself by speaking for the rookie thug uspurper bracko bama. You are doing no one any favors. The world respects you but not for long. You better go ballisic over what&#039;s going on or resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dems are done. Hillary is done. Nothing to see here. Keep on moving. Better yet, go read the stimulous bill and find out where the 2 trillion missing dollars went to. You will scream when you find out it (billions each) went back into the pockets of all the congressional leaders. Read it! Billions are being stolen from us. My high tax rate is killing me. I get a nice paycheck. With the high taxes taken out there are scraps left for me.I can&#8217;t live on scraps. Kick the bums out. Recall all of them. Read the bill now!<br />
Is anybody on our side? Oh yeah, that&#8217;s right Palin is. dum dee dum. Just wait until we kick them all out. Evil has no power. Only those with ethics and &#8216;under God&#8217; as this country is supposed to be, have real sustainable power. Read the porkulous bill. Get out your calculator and see it was for congress members pocketbooks that&#8217;s all&#8230;..you have been bamboozled. I&#8217;m ashamed of Hillary. How can you do this to us? I will not vote for you ever again. Stop towing the Islamo/fascist meme for this creepy administration. You are embarassing us. We thought you were better than that before you sold us out to China in your eminent domain pact with them. You are securitizing our properties with borrowing money for a stimulous bill that lines congress and their cronies ersonal pockets with billions each&#8230; Never again. You are all done. Go retire on Martha&#8217;s Vineyard. You are embarassing yourself by speaking for the rookie thug uspurper bracko bama. You are doing no one any favors. The world respects you but not for long. You better go ballisic over what&#8217;s going on or resign.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel should leave all settlements in the West Bank, remove all road barriers outside of Israel proper and stop seizure of Christian and Moslem lands in East Jerusalem.  

American Middle East policy is still run by American Jewish interests, which is why every political person must kao tao to the Jewish lobby or suddenly find themselves being labled anti-jewish.

Stop the madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel should leave all settlements in the West Bank, remove all road barriers outside of Israel proper and stop seizure of Christian and Moslem lands in East Jerusalem.  </p>
<p>American Middle East policy is still run by American Jewish interests, which is why every political person must kao tao to the Jewish lobby or suddenly find themselves being labled anti-jewish.</p>
<p>Stop the madness.</p>
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		<title>By: sonya</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is time for Hilary  Clinton to  refuse  money from AIPAC and think America first !!! I mean we heard that story  over and over, a story which doesn&#039;t address the real problem; the constant annection of land  by Israel and its unacceptable racist and faschist policy. Now, you can complain about this post but the facts are facts.  Why I am censored?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is time for Hilary  Clinton to  refuse  money from AIPAC and think America first !!! I mean we heard that story  over and over, a story which doesn&#8217;t address the real problem; the constant annection of land  by Israel and its unacceptable racist and faschist policy. Now, you can complain about this post but the facts are facts.  Why I am censored?</p>
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		<title>By: sonya</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is time for Hilary  Clinton to  refuse  money from AIPAC and think America first !!! I mean we heard that story  over and over, a story which doesn&#039;t address the real problem; the constant annection of land  by Israel and its unacceptable racist and faschist policy. Now, you can complain about this post but the facts are facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is time for Hilary  Clinton to  refuse  money from AIPAC and think America first !!! I mean we heard that story  over and over, a story which doesn&#8217;t address the real problem; the constant annection of land  by Israel and its unacceptable racist and faschist policy. Now, you can complain about this post but the facts are facts.</p>
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		<title>By: LogicalDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>LogicalDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>x - and the Arabs are doing what exactly to advance the cause of peace?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>x &#8211; and the Arabs are doing what exactly to advance the cause of peace?</p>
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		<title>By: LogicalDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>LogicalDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blargh - 

1) Good point - it is a shame that in addition to Israel and the Palestinian Arabs, the US won&#039;t target specific Arab states and get them to stop their incitement.  States like Saudi Arabia and Syria cynically exploit the suffering of the Jews and Palestinian Arabs for political reasons.

2) Gaza is not occupied (I&#039;m not sure if you were including them in the occupied territories), Israel has simply sealed their border with Gaza.  It seems pretty reasonable for the Israelis to close their border to a group that explicitly wants to kill every Jew.  Since they democratically elected genocidal leadership, I find it hard to have sympathy for the Gazans.

The West Bank is more complicated...settlement building is provocative and should stop...OTOH, Fatah has done little to encourage the Israelis towards peace...they continue to raise their children in a culture of hatred and destruction that offers the Israelis little hope that any peace offerings will be reciprocated.

3) c&#039;mon, giving back land that you occupy in the interest of peace is a positive gesture and a good thing.  If Arabs gave back any of the Kurdish or Fur land that they currently occupy by force, it would be viewed very positively by the Kurds and Fur.

4) You&#039;re right, giving up won&#039;t help...what do you suggest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blargh &#8211; </p>
<p>1) Good point &#8211; it is a shame that in addition to Israel and the Palestinian Arabs, the US won&#8217;t target specific Arab states and get them to stop their incitement.  States like Saudi Arabia and Syria cynically exploit the suffering of the Jews and Palestinian Arabs for political reasons.</p>
<p>2) Gaza is not occupied (I&#8217;m not sure if you were including them in the occupied territories), Israel has simply sealed their border with Gaza.  It seems pretty reasonable for the Israelis to close their border to a group that explicitly wants to kill every Jew.  Since they democratically elected genocidal leadership, I find it hard to have sympathy for the Gazans.</p>
<p>The West Bank is more complicated&#8230;settlement building is provocative and should stop&#8230;OTOH, Fatah has done little to encourage the Israelis towards peace&#8230;they continue to raise their children in a culture of hatred and destruction that offers the Israelis little hope that any peace offerings will be reciprocated.</p>
<p>3) c&#8217;mon, giving back land that you occupy in the interest of peace is a positive gesture and a good thing.  If Arabs gave back any of the Kurdish or Fur land that they currently occupy by force, it would be viewed very positively by the Kurds and Fur.</p>
<p>4) You&#8217;re right, giving up won&#8217;t help&#8230;what do you suggest?</p>
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		<title>By: LogicalDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>LogicalDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sohel - perhaps the issue is not Islam vs. Judaism but Arabs vs Jews.  All non-Arab ethnic groups (Jews, Kurds, Azeris, Copts, Fur, etc.) have suffered under Arab hegemony regardless of their religion.  Many in the West confuse Arab nationalism with Islamic fundamentalism because many Arab nationalist groups use religious fundamentalism to their advantage (e.g. The Hamas which explicitly seeks the murder of all Jews...it is in their charter).

I think Clinton&#039;s proposal confronts one of the core Middle East issues: Arab states must confront their broad cultural intolerance and specific hatred of Jews before any peace can be achieved.  If the Arab states can start this process of introspection, it might help resolve other ME conflicts as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sohel &#8211; perhaps the issue is not Islam vs. Judaism but Arabs vs Jews.  All non-Arab ethnic groups (Jews, Kurds, Azeris, Copts, Fur, etc.) have suffered under Arab hegemony regardless of their religion.  Many in the West confuse Arab nationalism with Islamic fundamentalism because many Arab nationalist groups use religious fundamentalism to their advantage (e.g. The Hamas which explicitly seeks the murder of all Jews&#8230;it is in their charter).</p>
<p>I think Clinton&#8217;s proposal confronts one of the core Middle East issues: Arab states must confront their broad cultural intolerance and specific hatred of Jews before any peace can be achieved.  If the Arab states can start this process of introspection, it might help resolve other ME conflicts as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sohel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sohel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot claim to know Judaism deeply, but Muslims believe that the &quot;Jewish God&quot; is the same as the God in Islam. Jews, Christians &amp; Muslims are referred to in the Qur&#039;an as the &quot;people of the book&quot;.

As a Muslim, I believe in each human being will be judged by God on our actions: &quot;each ounce of good deed will be rewarded and each ounce of deed will be punished&quot;; justice for all in the afterlife.

-Sohel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot claim to know Judaism deeply, but Muslims believe that the &#8220;Jewish God&#8221; is the same as the God in Islam. Jews, Christians &amp; Muslims are referred to in the Qur&#8217;an as the &#8220;people of the book&#8221;.</p>
<p>As a Muslim, I believe in each human being will be judged by God on our actions: &#8220;each ounce of good deed will be rewarded and each ounce of deed will be punished&#8221;; justice for all in the afterlife.</p>
<p>-Sohel</p>
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		<title>By: Blargh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blargh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) This speech will not result in any policy changes.  We see this rhetoric all the time from the US.  Moreover, calling on all sides to work for peace is basically meaningless - it doesn&#039;t put specific pressure anywhere.  Clumping up a bunch of countries as &quot;Arab states&quot; further dilutes the point.
2) Saying that the occupied territories are a result of ARAB aggression is a bit disingenuous.  They are not the result of Palestinian aggression, nor is there any security reason to hold them now.
3) To say that Israel gave up land in the West Bank is openly dishonest.  Giving up land you occupied is not a gesture of peace.
4) The old canard &quot;Oh they hate each other it doesn&#039;t matter&quot; is a nice way of saying &quot;I give up.&quot;  It&#039;s not true, first of all, and giving up isn&#039;t going to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) This speech will not result in any policy changes.  We see this rhetoric all the time from the US.  Moreover, calling on all sides to work for peace is basically meaningless &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t put specific pressure anywhere.  Clumping up a bunch of countries as &#8220;Arab states&#8221; further dilutes the point.<br />
2) Saying that the occupied territories are a result of ARAB aggression is a bit disingenuous.  They are not the result of Palestinian aggression, nor is there any security reason to hold them now.<br />
3) To say that Israel gave up land in the West Bank is openly dishonest.  Giving up land you occupied is not a gesture of peace.<br />
4) The old canard &#8220;Oh they hate each other it doesn&#8217;t matter&#8221; is a nice way of saying &#8220;I give up.&#8221;  It&#8217;s not true, first of all, and giving up isn&#8217;t going to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Skyliner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skyliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are the &quot;PUMAS&quot; you refer to?  I don&#039;t understand the term.

As for the Coburn comment, who cares?  She&#039;s not Cuban.  And really - are you saying a person can&#039;t make a common TV allusion to her because she&#039;s Hispanic?  That&#039;s taking &quot;PC&quot; a little too far, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are the &#8220;PUMAS&#8221; you refer to?  I don&#8217;t understand the term.</p>
<p>As for the Coburn comment, who cares?  She&#8217;s not Cuban.  And really &#8211; are you saying a person can&#8217;t make a common TV allusion to her because she&#8217;s Hispanic?  That&#8217;s taking &#8220;PC&#8221; a little too far, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us not forget that these so called &quot;OCCUPIED&quot; territories are a result of ARAB aggression (war) and claimed by The State of Israel as spoils of the war. Why do the Jews still get a bad rap after all these years when all Arab/Israeli wars are started by the Arabs. Sorry, to the victor goes the spoils of war!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not forget that these so called &#8220;OCCUPIED&#8221; territories are a result of ARAB aggression (war) and claimed by The State of Israel as spoils of the war. Why do the Jews still get a bad rap after all these years when all Arab/Israeli wars are started by the Arabs. Sorry, to the victor goes the spoils of war!!</p>
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		<title>By: PS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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