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	<title>Comments on: Poll: Even Republicans Want Specter To Back EFCA</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words: Campaign contributions.  Two more: Big money.

It&#039;s the money that drives the politics.  And the money ain&#039;t on the side of labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words: Campaign contributions.  Two more: Big money.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the money that drives the politics.  And the money ain&#8217;t on the side of labor.</p>
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		<title>By: GabeSmall</title>
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		<dc:creator>GabeSmall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t put much stock in these numbers. I&#039;d be willing to bet that a lot of Republicans in PA haven&#039;t even heard of EFCA and don&#039;t know what opposing it implies.

All they heard was &quot;Does Specter&#039;s [position on some topic] make you more or less likely to vote for him?&quot; They answered &quot;Less likely&quot; because they&#039;re pissed at him for defecting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put much stock in these numbers. I&#8217;d be willing to bet that a lot of Republicans in PA haven&#8217;t even heard of EFCA and don&#8217;t know what opposing it implies.</p>
<p>All they heard was &#8220;Does Specter&#8217;s [position on some topic] make you more or less likely to vote for him?&#8221; They answered &#8220;Less likely&#8221; because they&#8217;re pissed at him for defecting.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Latham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Latham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, let me try and argue a longer term perspective on Specter&#039;s shift.  I don&#039;t mean to minimize the dilemma that exists re labor (my dad was a labor organizer and I&#039;m deeply sympathetic) but it is a long while before the next electoral cycle and, given the appropriate spin, Specter could become a unicorn in 12 weeks and the present schmozzle will be in the long-dead and forgotten past.  Surely the differences between public statements now and backroom dealings are comparable to the two parts of an iceberg - the visible part and the not.
Specter leaving the Republican party is a high-profile defection.  As with Jeffords, (moreso here, I think) it has significant symbolic value - significantly negative for Republicans and significantly positive for Obama (of the open arms, reasonableness, glowing children, and post-partisanhood).  Imagine, for example, if McCain were to now take Limbaugh&#039;s urging and also switch parties.  He won&#039;t, I&#039;m certain, but imagine the optics of it if he did.
Another example...we knew a couple of years ago as the Dem nomination process got going that with a woman and an African-American vying we liberals weren&#039;t going to escape that battle - signifying two huge cultural shifts - unscathed.  But that was short-term, wasn&#039;t it?  Likewise now, as the political horizon re-jiggers itself, interests and goals will bump up against each other causing temporary heat and consternation.    
As I said, it isn&#039;t as if labor and other issues upcoming aren&#039;t important to us, rather I&#039;m just suggesting that a longer view is important too.  For example, Boehlert (media matters) has a column up now on the financial crisis facing Clear Channel and that might have consequences far more lasting than Specter&#039;s vote on a particular bill.
Please continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, let me try and argue a longer term perspective on Specter&#8217;s shift.  I don&#8217;t mean to minimize the dilemma that exists re labor (my dad was a labor organizer and I&#8217;m deeply sympathetic) but it is a long while before the next electoral cycle and, given the appropriate spin, Specter could become a unicorn in 12 weeks and the present schmozzle will be in the long-dead and forgotten past.  Surely the differences between public statements now and backroom dealings are comparable to the two parts of an iceberg &#8211; the visible part and the not.<br />
Specter leaving the Republican party is a high-profile defection.  As with Jeffords, (moreso here, I think) it has significant symbolic value &#8211; significantly negative for Republicans and significantly positive for Obama (of the open arms, reasonableness, glowing children, and post-partisanhood).  Imagine, for example, if McCain were to now take Limbaugh&#8217;s urging and also switch parties.  He won&#8217;t, I&#8217;m certain, but imagine the optics of it if he did.<br />
Another example&#8230;we knew a couple of years ago as the Dem nomination process got going that with a woman and an African-American vying we liberals weren&#8217;t going to escape that battle &#8211; signifying two huge cultural shifts &#8211; unscathed.  But that was short-term, wasn&#8217;t it?  Likewise now, as the political horizon re-jiggers itself, interests and goals will bump up against each other causing temporary heat and consternation.<br />
As I said, it isn&#8217;t as if labor and other issues upcoming aren&#8217;t important to us, rather I&#8217;m just suggesting that a longer view is important too.  For example, Boehlert (media matters) has a column up now on the financial crisis facing Clear Channel and that might have consequences far more lasting than Specter&#8217;s vote on a particular bill.<br />
Please continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Sargent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Sargent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s what makes his current position so inexplicable. maybe it&#039;s all about maximizing whatever he gets for his ultimate EFCA flip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s what makes his current position so inexplicable. maybe it&#8217;s all about maximizing whatever he gets for his ultimate EFCA flip.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Specter is nothing if he&#039;s not smart about self-preservation. He knows how to read poll numbers, clearly. When his flip was first announced last week, I asked what the Democrats were going to get out of this. I think it&#039;s becoming clear that they were getting someone who would figure out how to stay in the Senate. Specter&#039;s path to a D-election looks pretty clear: EFCA (likely w/watered-down card check) and cloture (at minimum) on energy and nominees. He&#039;s irrelevant on health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specter is nothing if he&#8217;s not smart about self-preservation. He knows how to read poll numbers, clearly. When his flip was first announced last week, I asked what the Democrats were going to get out of this. I think it&#8217;s becoming clear that they were getting someone who would figure out how to stay in the Senate. Specter&#8217;s path to a D-election looks pretty clear: EFCA (likely w/watered-down card check) and cloture (at minimum) on energy and nominees. He&#8217;s irrelevant on health care.</p>
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