Liberals To Rahm: Who’s “F**king Stupid” Now?
FireDogLake, which has been whipping Dems to support the public option, has been aggressively targeting Rahm Emanuel as the leading proponent within the White House of trading away core liberal priorities to win over centrist Dems.
Exhibit A of this claim has been the fact that Emanuel told a closed door meeting of top liberal leaders that they were “f**king stupid” to be running ads pressuring Blue Dogs and centrist Dem Senators to back the public option, as I reported here.
Now FDL has a defiant reply: A new ad targeting Senator Blanche Lincoln and Blue Dog Dem Rep. Mike Ross, both of Arkansas, demanding they back the public plan and implicitly threatening to back primary challengers if they don’t:
The ad, which FDL is raising money for right now, also represents an implicit shot at the big liberal groups for largely backing down from targeting centrists at the White House’s insistence.
Indeed, there’s a bit of a split in the health care reform movement between those who are willing to place their trust in the White House and want to maintain access, and those who maintain that the only way to affect real long term change is to build Congressional progressives into a powerful and unyielding force that won’t budge on core principles.
That tension, of course, is only going to get exacerbated in the weeks ahead.
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Update: Rachel Weiner notes that Change Congress is also raising cash for an ad targeting Ross.
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I don’t follow why this shows Rahm to be f**king stupid.
oddjob, that hed wasn’t meant to be taken literally.
“is to build Congressional progressives into a powerful and unyielding force that won’t budge on core principles”
God that sounds familiar.
Which is why I don’t trust either end of the spectrum.
Could we maybe listen to someone who knows what they are talking about – like the doctors who are saying tens of thousands of Americans are dying without health care instead of a political pissing match between the left left and the White House?
This is real productive IMO.
So this is getting confusing. The right thinks it’s ok to have a tax for being alive (a tax for not having health care by any other name) and the left thinks its ok to have a health care reform without any real reform at all. Hasn’t really taken long for “yes we can” to turn into “yes we can hang onto power if we really compromise our ideals”. And why doesn’t the republican party just rebrand: I think “Big Business All the Time” is kinda catchy.
Targeting Ross IS f***ing stupid. The guy is bought and sold. It would be SO much more worth their while to lobby GOP moderates like Voinovich to vote for cloture than to get Ross to support the PO. And when I mean lobby, I mean grassroots communication not political ads. I love FDL but have been a little disappointed in their tactics and tone of late.
Oh and meanwhile one person dies every 12 minutes in the USA from a lack of — or insufficient — health care.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/09/study_links_45000_us_deaths_to_lack_of_insurance.php?ref=fpb
My one beef is, again, that they ignore the fact that non-Dems also support HCR with a public option.
80% of Democrats in AR support the public option, so does a majority of Indepenent voters (56%-34%), and even 1 out of 5 Republicans want it.
Standing against the public option isn’t just standing against Democrats – it’s standing against a heavy majority of Americans.
That said…the ad is still pretty effective. Both of them surely know that without a base of Democratic support, they won’t get re-elected over a Republican…no matter how centrist they are.
I agree with Ethan. Why aren’t we targeting Voinovich? The man is retiring what does he have to lose?
Also, why isn’t the WH targeting Lieberman? If it weren’t for Obama he would not have his gavel. It is absurd that this man comes from a deep blue state and refuses to even support the public option.
Tena
I respectively disagree. The pressure coming from the left “end of the spectrum” is what is keeping the public option in the realm of possibilities for a bill. Also, some of these blue dogs and conserva dems need to be held accountable to their constituents when they’re taking so much money in from the health industry. It’s the libs and progressives who are listening to the doctors.
I’m of fan of the President but I just don’t think it hurts to keep pushing for the best bill we can get and it’s up to the voters in those districts and states to decide if Ross and Lincoln met their expectations. I’ve been a registered Independent for 40 years so maybe I just see it from a different perspective.
Lieberman would want to negotiate going back to Star Wars to get cooperation on health care. Fat chance in France.
Although I think Jane is unduly fixated on Rahm, I gotta say that I love the ad. And the tide is slowly starting to turn if you ask me. Sherrod Brown has been out saying the things I wish all Senate Dems who support a public option would say. If they could all repeat what he is saying in this video then the pressure would shift to where it should have been all along, on the handful of corporatist Dems who oppose a public option.
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002157/
What needs to be established is that being against the public option is a fringe ideal in the Democratic Party, not the other way around.
Imsinca – well I respectively would ask you if you honestly think the White House is listening to Jane Hamsher.
Cause I think it’s a damn good way to marginalize the left as much as the right is marginalizing itself.
Greg, I urge you to calendar two follow-ups to this story–
1) Whether or not Ross or Lincoln actually vote for a public option;
2) Whether or not Ross or Lincoln lose to a primary challenger.
Then we can really find out “Who’s F*cking Stupid”.
@Ethan
I partially agree. Political ads like this are useful for drawing attention and raising money. Unfortunately an email saying “we’re going to grassroots pressure Voinovich” doesn’t open wallets as well as a hard hitting ad.
I do agree that a true grassroots push in Ohio, using their resources to better educate citizens and get them to call/volunteer/canvas for HCR would be very wise indeed. But…
I’d argue that it would also be very useful in places like Montana and Nebraska – where you can organize a larger percent of the people for less money. Baucus and Nelson might be bought and paid for…but there’s always a tipping point at which fear of losing re-election outweighs anything else.
Agreed Kathleen. Lieberman would put his own people and the Jewish state at risk for the military industrial complex. He is beyond hope for discussion on any issue. All we can hope is that his long-time friends in the Senate — the ones who are keeping him caucusing with the Dems — are leaning on him heavily.
@Kris
You answer your own question.
There is no way Lieberman is going to win his next election. Every poll out there shows that he’s going to get creamed…and that’s before the attacks start to ramp up. It’s a forced retirement waiting to happen.
So the same reason the White House SHOULD be targetting Voinovich, is the exact same reason they can’t really do much about Lieberman…neither has much to lose.
Tena
Actually if you want to be real about it what we saw over the last 8 years and during most Republican administrations was not a conviction from Republicans to stick to their core values, but instead swearing loyalty to their President no matter what. Bush wasn’t fiscally responsible, he didn’t get Roe vs Wade repealed, he didn’t build a wall to block illegal aliens, and yet they still cheered him on because he was THEIR President.
If anything looks like what we saw over the last 8 years, its Democrats who now show that same kind of blind loyalty to President Obama. Hell I support the guy as much as anybody, but I’ll be d@mned if I hold my tongue when he is ******** up. Thats the same thing Republicans did for all 8 years of the Bush administration until the sh*t hit the fan and they had to run from him so as to try to win their elections. Well as much as I “trust” President Obama, I am going to also verify because that is what a true Democracy is really about. I won’t go over board like some on the left have but I won’t sit down and shut up either when criticism is called for.
And honestly, all of the people who think he shouldn’t be criticized at all or that he should just be trusted sight unseen, are the ones who most resemble the flip side of loyal Bushies.
It is what it is.
I support what the FDL is doing. Aren’t there some core principles that are inviolable? I’m all for compromise but as N.Y.’s Anthony Weiner has so correctly pointed out…progressive’s started from a position of wanting single payer or Medicare for all…moving to the P.O. is a HUGE compromise.
One of the main goals of Obama’s and even the conservatives is to control cost. Given that procedure driven medicine is a huge cost that’s not going to be tamed in the near future…given that costs associated with malpractice are a non starter even for some committed progressive’s like Tena…that leaves controlling the huge profits raked in by insurance companies. Doctors help save our lives…attorney’s give us redress in court…what the f do insurance companies provide? Great administration? No..but they do a great job of rationing without raising the hackles of the right who are screaming about rationing and killing grandma.
And so for me at least…any reform that comes out without a P.O. is not reform at all…and in fact would be better ditched right now when the Dems could claim Republican intransigence at compromise, rather than a few years down the road when the “reform” fails and the situation is even worse and the Repubs can claim…see we told you Obama’s plan wouldn’t work.
I’m not normally a single issue kinda guy but I truly believe health insurance reform without a P.O. is not reform at all and given the polls that show Doctors and the public at large FAVOR the P.O. would simply indicate that the corporatists have truly taken over our country.
I ask my right wing friends if the government sucks at everything why would they be afraid of the public option…the private insurance companies will simply outmarket and outmanage the government…and yes I get it…any P.O. would have to include ironclad guarantees against any subsidy from taxpayers other than those already handed out to indigent individuals for their CHOICE of public or private plans.
BBQ, you make good points but what’s the point of political ads for fundraising at this moment? If it goes to campaign coffers for re-election of Liberal Senators, that’s great, but how does it help health care? I am interested in your thoughts, I honestly don’t know how they intend to spend money nor how that would advance the cause. But I think the progressive cause has the best communications network in human history and if we can bring that to bear for the cause of getting the PO an UP/DOWN vote simple majority in the Senate, that would imho be the best use of time and energy.
Re: Sherrod, thanks for the video link sgwhite. I think he might be the new Liberal Lion of the Senate, either him or Bernie Sanders. The two of them — and Weiner in the House — have made following this debate possible for this Liberal Democrat.
sg
We’re of the same mind when it comes to following our leader or party at all costs. An open dialogue is an open dialogue and being such a big tent party lends itself to lots of opinions, all, or at least most, of which need to be heard. This is especially important during the legislative process. Once it comes to a vote we’ll see where everyone really stands.
Tena
I don’t thing the President listens to Jane Hamsher too much but she’s done a good job of getting the progressives in the House to stick to the PO. I read their articles at FDL but don’t read the comments too much because there is too much bashing of the Pres. going on. I don’t agree with her on that many issues but I think she represents an awful lot of people who helped get Obama elected. I wouldn’t exactly call them the fringe.
Krugman’s op-ed is pretty good at explaining where the progressives need to push the Baucus bill.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/opinion/18krugman.html?_r=2&ref=opinion
sgwhite:
It is what it is.
Now that is something I think we can all agree on.
For all you poll watchers, and Greg, may want to dig in to this one. Lots of interesting data here imho:
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/091709_poll.pdf
racists
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Yep rahm is F*king stupid just like those he called stupid.
Instead of attacking Acorn for human trafficking and the SEIU for hiring convicted child molsters. They spend their time attacking their own who might jepordize their total control.
A former union official and California Department of Insurance employee was sentenced Tuesday to 25 years in prison after entering no contest pleas to charges of child molestation, possession of child pornography, and manufacturing child pornography.
Jaime Enrique Feliciano, who served as a chapter president of Service Employees International Union Local 1000, which represents thousands of Sacramento-area state workers, had previous convictions for child molestation and failure to register as a *** offender.
news10.net/news/story.aspx?storyid=66962&catid=2
Can anyone on this site tell me if the idiot “yippee” ever responds to a thread with anything even REMOTELY associated with the thread.
I came to this blog because by and large while there is an obvious left lean to it…some conservatives like sbj and Q.B. at least tried to respond thoughtfully.
Shouldn’t Yippee just go over to the Drudge report where lies, paranoia and stupid drivel are appreciated?
more lies and propaganda and ya’ll fell for it hook line and sinker like good little oppressives. Don’t you uppity educated snobs verify anything?
damn the left would not know what to do if their heros in the MSM ever told them the truth!
CBS Disguises Single-Payer Group’s 45,000 Deaths Claim as a ‘Harvard’ Study
By Brent Baker (Bio | Archive)
September 18, 2009 – 10:20 ET
Trying to boost the rationale for ObamaCare, Thursday’s CBS Evening News ran two stories from far-left sources, but the network disguised the agenda behind both. Katie Couric announced that “while the debate goes on over the cost of insuring everyone, a new study reveals the cost of not doing it. The Harvard study says nearly 45,000 American deaths every year are linked to a lack of insurance.” Neither she, nor reporter Jim Axelrod, noted that the report was really produced by Physicians for a National Health Program, “the only national physician organization in the United States dedicated exclusively to implementing a single-payer national health program.”
newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2009/09/18/cbs-disguises-single-payer-groups-45-000-deaths-claim-harvard-study
Can anyone on this site tell me if the idiot “yippee” ever responds to a thread with anything even REMOTELY associated with the thread.
Yes, but none of yippie’s comments are ever worth reading.
Seriously.
LOL!
David L. Scheiner, M.D. is a practicing physician in the state of Illinois and was once personal family doctor to President Barack Obama. He is a member of Physicians for a National Health Program.
commondreams.org/view/2009/07/30-14
Ya think?
“The media have earned every last drop of a growing majority of Americans’ disdain and distrust. Blatantly biased, false and lazy reporting plagues network television and our nation’s left-wing newspapers. And some of these entities are adding insult to injury by demanding financial bailouts from the American taxpayer.
“If the liberal broadcast networks and newspapers refuse to acknowledge they have become a victim of their newsrooms’ own prejudices, they will continue to flounder until extinction. Alternative media are no longer just competing; they are outshining with solid, balanced and trusted coverage.”
The full Pew Research Center survey is accessible online at: http://people-press.org/report/543/
Highlights of the survey findings include (MRC BiasAlert with key findings):
• Political Bias – In 1985, fewer than half (45%) said news organizations were politically biased, while 36% said they were careful to avoid bias. Today, by greater than two-to-one (60% to 26%), more say the press is biased.
• Liberal Bias – Americans have overwhelmingly identified bias as liberal-leaning both in 1985 and today. About twice as many said the press was liberal than conservative (40% vs. 19%) in 1985 and that continues to be the case today by a margin of 50% vs. 22%.
• Lack of Accuracy – Today just 29% of Americans say that news organizations generally get the facts straight, while 63% say that news stories are often inaccurate – a drop in confidence since 1985 when 55% of Americans polled said news stories were accurate while 34% said they were inaccurate
mrc.org/press/releases/2009/20090915100051.aspx
You know what bothers me most about yippie? He has serious punctuation issues.
Wow yippee. My mind is changed. Dick Cheney 4 Prez!!!1!1!!11
FDL is the PAC that’s paying for lobbyists to post at DailyKos, right?
got bias use federal grant money to promote your bias and claim Yes it is because of no insurance!
Researchers analyzed data from national surveys from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They looked at adults under age 65 who participated in the annual National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys between 1986 and 1994. CDC tracked participants to see who died by 2000.
They estimated that lack of insurance causes 44,789 deaths a year. That was far higher than a similar study in 2002 by the Institute of Medicine, which found nearly 18,000 deaths linked to lack of insurance.
newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/17/3283909-no-health-coverage-tied-to-45000-deaths-a-year?commentId=9564172
Data came from about 9,000 people aged 17 to 64 who took part in a government health survey between 1988 and 1994. They were followed through 2000.
During those years, about 3% of the participants died. People without any health insurance were 40% more likely than people with health insurance to die during the years studied, regardless of factors such as age, gender, race, income, education, health status, BMI ( body mass index), exercise, smoking, and alcohol use.
The researchers then applied that finding to U.S. census data. “We calculated approximately 44,789 deaths among working-age Americans in 2005 associated with the lack of insurance,” write the researchers, who included Andrew Wilper, MD, MPH.
Wilper’s team can’t rule out other factors that could have affected the results. But they note that people without health insurance often don’t get preventive care or have a steady source for medical care, which could be risky.
webmd.com/news/20090917/no-health-insurance-higher-death-risk
Here’s my vote for sgwhite – Best Comment of the Year! I couldn’t agree more.
“If you want to be real about it what we saw over the last 8 years and during most Republican administrations was not a conviction from Republicans to stick to their core values, but instead swearing loyalty to their President no matter what. Bush wasn’t fiscally responsible, he didn’t get Roe vs Wade repealed, he didn’t build a wall to block illegal aliens, and yet they still cheered him on because he was THEIR President.
If anything looks like what we saw over the last 8 years, its Democrats who now show that same kind of blind loyalty to President Obama. Hell I support the guy as much as anybody, but I’ll be d@mned if I hold my tongue when he is ******** up.”
swwhiteinfl
And honestly, all of the people who think he shouldn’t be criticized at all or that he should just be trusted sight unseen, are the ones who most resemble the flip side of loyal Bushies.
It is what it is.
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It sure is!! Hat tip to you sg!
Ethan | September 18th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Wow yippee. My mind is changed. Dick Cheney 4 Prez!!!1!1!!11
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if you want to support cheney 4 prez go for it. I won’t be standing by your side or supporting you!
If you had the ability to open up your mind you would realize I don’t like either party and if you can’t verify the infomation feed to you by your leaders then I expect nothing but “wow you convinced me I’m voting for cheney”
and surely don’t expect a factual response.
Oh no does this mean having insurance kills you, specifically medicare?
In Hospital Deaths from Medical Errors at 195,000 per Year USA
An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to a new study of 37 million patient records that was released today by HealthGrades, the healthcare quality company.
The HealthGrades Patient Safety in American Hospitals study is the first to look at the mortality and economic impact of medical errors and injuries that occurred during Medicare hospital admissions nationwide from 2000 to 2002. The HealthGrades study applied the mortality and economic impact models developed by Dr. Chunliu Zhan and Dr. Marlene R. Miller in a research study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in October of 2003. The Zhan and Miller study supported the Institute of Medicine’s (IOM) 1999 report conclusion, which found that medical errors caused up to 98,000 deaths annually and should be considered a national epidemic.
medicalnewstoday.com/articles/11856.php
Article Date: 09 Aug 2004 – 13:00 PDT
I am somewhat amazed at how docile Emanuel has become since relocating to the White House. He has gone soft. The Dems have greater control of congress than the R’s did under Bush, yet they seem pathologically unable to exercise any kind of party unity, even with overwhelming popular support.
If the White House can’t unite the Dems around an issue that has as much as 75% support from the public, how are they going to be successful at getting less popular measures through congress?
Honestly, Emanual has effectively become the “boy toy” of every moderate Republican and Blue Dog Democrat. Maybe a bit of leadership from White House, a la LBJ or FDR style arm twisting is in order.
At some point “staying above the fray” looks an awful lot like “not being in the game.”
Ramh Emanuel makes me puke, and furthermore, i could careless about his cease fire pleads. He is no friend of liberals and progressives or reform.
Tena: Why is it so wrong to ask Democrats to back plans that most Americans — yes, even in DEEP RED ARKANSAS OOOOH SCAAARRRY — have said over and over again that they want? Why is it so wrong to point out the monetary motivations that Ross and Lincoln have for blowing off the needs of their constituents?
Yippie, you can say whatever you want about hating both parties but your posts tell a different story. You’re about as “independent” as Loud Obbs.
Gassan
If the White House can’t unite the Dems around an issue that has as much as 75% support from the public, how are they going to be successful at getting less popular measures through congress?
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since when did 75% convert to 44%. I need oneof those liberal calculators you have!!
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hehe too funny!
politico.com/click/stories/0909/snl_examines_wilsons_you_lie.html
From http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/18/new-dnc-obama-ad-get-fired-up-and-ready-to-go-about-no-public-option/ –
The young people we worked so hard to turn out for us over the past three years aren’t going to like being forced to buy expensive garbage insurance from the medical-industrial complex. The only way we’ll keep them from deserting us in 2010 and 2012 is if we have, at MINIMUM, a public plan to provide a lower-cost option. Single payer would be best of all, but the industry lobby’s money has made that impossible: Congressional SH backers were all for it when a SH bill wasn’t scheduled for a vote, but they’re running away from it now that one is (http://www.thehill.com/homenews/house/56785-dems-backtrack-on-single-payer-bill).
As a Democrat who wants meaningful healthcare reform, I have two options. Sit back and wring my hands as my Senators and Congresscritters sell out my interests to lobbies, or inform them that they work for me, not vice versa.
Jane Hamsher has the courage and inclination to do the latter. I’d rather look long-term and work for a better pool of candidates to choose from, than go back to the same old system with the tired old “If I don’t vote for the Blue Dog, the Republican wins.”
I can talk with my vote and my wallet (though it’s small) than listen to those who moan about the system but do nothing to try and change it.
ChuckinDenton | September 18th, 2009 at 11:55 am
You know what bothers me most about yippie? He has serious punctuation issues.
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As soon as I get my free healthcare, I will run to punctuation rehab!
Look, you’re all ******* stupid.
Notice that “yippie” is all upset about “bias” — but avoids the question of truth?
That’s because conservative news media depend on cowing everyone else into giving the Cons free passes whenever they screw up, in the name of “balance”.
Remember, FOX’s motto is “fair and balanced”, not “honest and truthful”.
Two things. Since when did a public option become a “core principle” of progressivism? I doubt if most progressives could even define one.
The principle at stake is affordable universal coverage — the public plan is a strategy. Netroots activists had better learn to tell the difference because right now it looks as though they are trying to build a coalition around whatever Jane Hamsher wants them to do.
And does anyone really think it’s a good idea to go into Arkansas with an ad that has the word KILL superimposed over Blanche Lincoln’s face?
Better netroots strategists please.
Tena: as another life-long independent, I’ve gotta say FDL is doing what I thought we were electing democrats to do. The “whatever Obama says” faction of the party may try and to marginalize/minimize their efforts but IMO they are far more in tune with the heartbeat of America. We aren’t really centrists, most people actually hold rather strong beliefs. Many of us draw from both sides of the left/right divide but want to see the issues we care about fought for.
Health Reform was well discussed in the campaign and the democrats were explicit about what they would do if elected. That’s one of the reasons a lot of us supported you. The votes are counted, opinion polls today are irrelevant. I would like to see Obama, and all democrats, try and deliver what was promised or at least go down swinging.
“I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot … So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.”
This is a progressive blog. Can’t all you RW wingnuts who are spreading lies and misinformation find another blog? You are doing here what your pols do on Capital Hill, divide, obstruct and avoid the fact that American needs health insurance reform. You lost the election in November because America is no longer interested in your selfish ideas. You had 8 years and all you succeeded in doing was starting two wars, wasting a budget surplus and sinking us all into the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Instead of complaining about Obama why don’t you tell your Congressperson to start doing something other than voting NO. The RW no longer speaks for the majority of Americans. WE ARE MANY, you are few. Accept your defeat and let the progressives get on with fixing this country and returning it to it’s rightful place as the leader of the Free World.
lol thy name is freedomfreedom and I want all those who oppose the progressives views to shut up and begone, because it will be our way or the highway!
thy name should be spittingonfreedomandshuttingdownopposition or the shorter version tyranny!
Not one of you dispute the so called lies you claim I post with anything other than insults, stfu or get out of here.
Dispute the links of facts I have posted or continue to cry “stfu and get off my playground”.
I have never seen such sore Winners in my life. I lost nothing as I had no candidate to represent my views like many other Americans who don’t bow down to the political world we only want the political world to balance their checkbook like we do and stay the hell out of our lives!
you don’t like it too freakin bad you people don’t even know what is good for you let alone every american so stop acting like this is a one man show and only your views matter. If that was the case your party would have passed this so called healthcare reform a months ago.
you own all 3 branches, spending is more out of control then when Bush was spending like a fool and you haven’t fixed a damn thing just created more waste, fraud and debt.
You are the party of Acorn and the SEIU and that says alot about your lack of integrity or ability to reform anything!
I have a pointed question: did the Huffington Post sell out and promise to support the Health Care bill? Was some sort of deal struck? Because other than Bill Maher (whose only opinion that “fat people can’t complain was published on HuffPost, NOT his opinion that Obama is a owned and operated subsidary of corporations – real Maher criticism of Obama hardly appears on his pal’s site), there are no headlines, not significant coverage. Remarkable considering how Huffington rode the backsides of other issues and considering this is the number one issue for most people besides employment. Over 70% want a public option. Where’s the screaming headlines…the unflattering photos of the guilty who support this bad Senate bill….
Pretty much the same at DailyKos.
Is the career of Obama MORE important and his bragging point of getting something passed (that pleases his corporate bosses), than something actually good?
Geeze, with a Democrat majority everywhere, if this is not a sign that the party’s over, I don’t know what is. The Health bill is a revenue collecting for insurance companies that will be mandatory customers for them. And gee, we were afraid of getting taxed like Sweden…nope, just ensure legally that it goes to corps.
This is legalized privatized taxation.
At least with taxes, they have debate and vote publically to pass it. With mandatory insurance with no public option, you don’t get representatives to vote on the price passed to you OR the coverage. and you still get to fight with the companies…individually, on each claim with no real competition. Divide and conquer. With a cherry on top to the highly paid executives and board members of their companies.
To see some real analysis see: http://www.alternet.org/politics/142700/5_reasons_the_baucus_health_bill_fails_the_basics