GOP Rep Says Man Who Identified Himself As A “Right Wing Terrorist” Is A “Great American”
An intriguing scene from a town-hall meeting in California hosted by GOP Rep. Wally Herger, courtesy of the Mount Shasta Area Newspapers:
One speaker said he could trace his ancestors back to the Mayflower and said “they did not arrive holding their hands out for help.”
“I am a proud right wing terrorist,” he declared to cheers.
Herger praised the man’s attitude.
“Amen, God bless you,” Herger said with a broad smile. “There is a great American.”
It appears from the context that the audience member was attempting to venture an ironic reference to descriptions of the town hall hooligans, and to publicly identify with them. So at best Rep. Herger offered a full-throated endorsement of the disrupters here. At at worst…
People are often too quick to say, “If a Democrat did this, there would be days of media outrage about it.” But let’s face it, if a Democrat did this, there would be days of media outrage about it. Not to state the obvious or anything, but right wing terrorists have been known to kill American citizens.
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Don’t forget Barack Obama was tight with Bill Ayers who is a leftwing terrorist (when he isn’t advising Obama’s man in South America Hugo Chavez on education reform issues). Obama started his political career at Ayers’s house and the biggest entries on the Obama resume were serving on the boards of Ayers-controlled charities. You are a loathsome POS Greg.
I will never understand this mindset. I agree with one of Tena’s earlier posts about how things are SO much better now than they were for the first 75% of the “President CooCoo” administration, but the backlash amongst the Neanderthals is mind boggling. When before, in recent history, has anyone ever carried a gun to a Presidential appearance? I’ve worked peripherally with a few Secret Service agents on events over the years, and they have to be going bonkers over this kind of stuff.
And what’s this I hear about Plum Line lava lamps????
I’m sorry to report that there are not actually Plum Line lava lamps. It’s a reference to an old TPM joke.
“One speaker said he could trace his ancestors back to the Mayflower and said “they did not arrive holding their hands out for help.”
Umm, did he forget the helping hand they got from the Native Americans that we are, to this day, oh so Thankful for?
Hypocrisy thy name is GOP
I though that the Mayflower people did arrive with their hands out, and had to be kept from starving by Native Americans.
@Greg: Now would it be so hard to go out and buy a lava lamp and hold some sort of commentor contest?
Re: the “terrorist” – never trust anyone named Wally.
If you take Wally Herger at face value, it seems the Republicans want to fight terrorism when they are in the majority and encourage terrorism is they are in the minority. From what banana republic have these modern 21st century Republicans evolved? -Kevo
above, terrorism is = terrorism when
The folks on the Mayflower did not arrive with their hands out. Learn the actual history: Their first winter was awful, and the colony very nearly died out.
However, WHEN HELP WAS OFFERED, they accepted. Big difference between “hand out” and “accepting aid.”
As for “domestic terrorists,” they use all political definitions as their excuse. No matter who they are, they are simply sociopaths, not “conservatives” or “liberals.”
This name-calling and labeling used on both sides of the political spectrum cheapens the debate. That the protesters have adopted the terms as a badge of honor is an ironic statement of defiance.
I thought “progressives” liked such defiance. Guess that’s only true when it’s their own cause.
“Don’t forget Barack Obama was tight with Bill Ayers who is a leftwing terrorist”
He was on a board with a guy who was a radical when Obama was 8 years old, next..
“Obama started his political career at Ayers’s house”..
..see the above point.. Baby Hugo is what happens when siblings marry.
Looking back on how things turned out for them, I would expect that Native Americans would be justified in considering those Mayflower invaders, as just a bunch of Foreign Terrorists!!!
One speaker said he could trace his ancestors back to the Mayflower and said “they did not arrive holding their hands out for help.”
That was laugh out loud funny. Holding their hands out for help is exactly how they arrived. And this person, if truly a descendent of the Mayflower, is only here thanks to the grace of big government handouts from the only indigenous government that existed at the time,the Wampanoag Confederacy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Biddle_Barrows
Here is a rather famous descendant from the Mayflower Pilgrims. Just because a person can trace their lineage back to someone that was on the Mayflower does not mean that they are automatically endowed with some genetic legacy that makes them superior citizens. Can you say Mayflower Madam, boys and girls?
The farther back one traces one’s lineage, the more thousands and thousands of ancestors one becomes related to. We all have had more distant relations who were scoundrels, thieves, etc, than we had greatness in our ancestors.
Take all those who keep reminding us that they are descended from Thomas Jefferson. Big deal; they are descended from thousands of unknown names, as well, so their pride in who the descended from, is just ridiculous attention seeking, self absorption.
I have looked deeply into my own ancestral tree, and it turns out, amazingly enough, I am descended from a long line of dead people.
In the proud tradition of John Billington….
“One speaker said he could trace his ancestors back to the Mayflower and said “they did not arrive holding their hands out for help.”
Umm, did he forget the helping hand they got from the Native Americans that we are, to this day, oh so Thankful for?
Oh, it’s worse than that – they were starving to death, when the locals offered to help.
They landed to find a number of abandoned villages, apparently ravaged by disease, and gave thanks to their lord for delivering them to a land of plenty.
Then, winter came.
And a mighty “D’oh!!” was raised to the heavens.
From this guy’s statement I’d guess he’d rather starve than accept much-needed assistance.
Maybe irrational and mis-placed pride IS a suicide pact.
The folks on the Mayflower did not arrive with their hands out . . . However, WHEN HELP WAS OFFERED, they accepted. Big difference between “hand out” and “accepting aid.”
Yep, the first is socialism, and the second is lemon socialism.
@ sbj, hey how about locating one incumbent Democrat that embraced the 9/11 truthers like the GOP has the the birthers and the extremists. Just one BJ, you said you it was all the same.
Coming into a foreign land, and settling there, without having been invited to do so, is the ultimate example of: Arriving With One’s Hands Out.
I trace my lineage back to the folks who kicked the whiny Puritans out of England on the Mayflower in the first place, and judging from their descendants I’d say my ancestors have been completely validated.
There were a few British monarchs who viewed America as a convenient dumping ground for members of fanatic religious sects……
(Well, adherents of unwanted religious sects, anyway!)
oddjob,
Well played, sir/and/or/madam. And the confused, puritanical mindset of the typical American makes us all their descendants in one way or another.
I trace my lineage back to Lucy in Africa. That means we’re all African-Americans now! Boo!
Isn’t a proud right wing terrorist redundant?
I think I finally have ID’d BabyHugo – he’s one of Rush Limbaugh’s colon polyps.
Even the comments are lies. Obama was not “tight” with Bill Ayers, but facts don’t really matter to right-wingers.
Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never harm me…Anyone can call me anything they like. If speaking out and exercising my rights, AND being Jewish AND having a black nephew (whom I love)makes me a “right wing extremist” so be it. I can tune out those who wish to silence me. I am proud to say that I NEVER associated with the likes of Ayers, Wright and never received a compliment from Louis Farakkhan. No, I have no interest in lowlifes like them.
Wow, June, you’re really taking that lack of knowledge thing to a whole new level.
Here’s a class you may be interested in if you happen to have time:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Course-Catalog-Offers-Stupidity-180-54581252.html
@shelly and others,
So let me get this straight, you say O and Ayers “just served on a board together”, but lets look at what facts we can from this relationship…..(most are locked up so its hard to get the whole scoop)
You’re running a foundation that just won a $50 million dollar grant from Annenburg. You put BO in charge of it of that 50 million for the next 3-4 years and you think they just “sat on a board together” and never really knew each other? Uh huh, if you’re anyone, you are talking to him daily.
Nice job thinking that one through guys.
Take your diapers and go home!
darn that truth…it always seems to get in the way of our radical ideas.
@ObamaAyers BFF’s
Um yeah right sure: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sadly_mostly_true.html
“Of Palin’s charge, CNN concluded:
CNN Fact Check, Oct. 5: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now “palling around,” or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.
That’s consistent with what we found back on April 17, after Sen. Hillary Clinton brought up Ayers and his past during a Democratic debate. ”
Like you said “Darn that truth…” Pathetic you don’t think we can debunk you posts?
@Greg:
Any chance you’d be able to get a comment from other ‘journalists’ as to why they feel this doesn’t make it past the editor’s desk?
Didn’t our glorious Mayflower ancestors also bite the hands that fed them by later turning on the local Native Americans and killing them?
People, what we learned in our public (government) run schools regarding the true history of “Thanksgiving” is a lie. Do a little research. It was in fact one of the first experiments of socialism gone wrong that when changed produced such a massive increase in food that the settlers celebrated with a pitch in dinner we now know as thanksgiving. Do a little research it will be the beginning of the realization that most of the history you learned in school is just another big fat lie.
why are the right wing protestors so much in love with high priced health insurances,high deductables,dumping you for pre-existing conditions.they must be all in lockstep with the corporate insurance racketeers and are at an advantage, as for the non-insured,and the poorly covered, well are there no work houses,are there no prisons? and abortion? let the little ******** be born,then after they are alive we do not give a damn what happens to them,our christian values dictate it so.what a great country the few live in.
the anti-public option freaks resemble a 1960s anti-war protest in reverse,imagine the comparison “we want to go fight and die in viet nam,we want to be drafted to die for a useless war,please abuse us!!! that is actually what they are doing, and where do they get off with this nazi bit? it is the protesters of the right who are the comparables to facism not the left oh you ignorant idiots.learn your ideologies before you make stupid of yourself you do not resembale at all free speech, it looks more like hitlers brown shirts interrupting free speech!
This whole backlash to our inspiring, intelligent President is pathetic, hateful and unAmerican. It’s like we’re living in two nations. Given that, I have an idea… why doesn’t the minority, a.k.a. right-wing religious, anti-government extremists simply move to Alaska and form their own nation?! They can elect Sarah Palin as their president (once she produces her high school diploma) and live happily evil after. Sound good? The rest of us can get on with solving the myriad of problems they’ve left behind.
well said Keith
Are you all being purposely ignorant of the intended sarcasm of the speaker? Town hall participants have been called “un-American”, and abortion opponents and returning veterans have been cast as potential “right-wing terrorists”. Mr. Sargent seems to acknowledge this, yet still quickly condemns the speaker and the Congressman, and suggests the media would have been all over this if a Democrat had made a similar statement. Really? And this claim is made even as Sargent writes about the incident in the Washington Post?
I don’t fault you for arguing for your favored policies, but the ad hominem attacks and congratulatory back slapping on your perceived enlightenment and the knuckle-dragging ignorance of your opponents suggest you have no real argument.
CORRECTION: I see Sargent’s only posts on this event have shown up here, on his blog, and not in the Post.
the fact that our opponents are knuckle-draggingly ignorant is neither here nor there as it pertains to the quality of the argument. It simply is, as immutable as the sun rising in the East.
I did know that the true colors of the republican party would show when they ran out of tricks and lost some power.
the idiots at the town hall meetings remind me of hitlers brown shirt thugs, ask any of those losers if they voted for obama,and how many of them are republicans, and how many hate ****,liberals,etc. and you have the reason why they are there acting like a lynch mob. they claim no organization sent them…HAH…rush limpbo , and glen prik of fox news sent them dummy!!!!