Dems Seize On Cantor’s Vow To Tea Partiers
Dems are seizing on Eric Cantor’s pledge to the tea party rally yesterday that no GOPers will back the health care bill, hoping to use it to put moderate GOPers on the spot by casting a No vote as doing the bidding of extremists.
The DCCC, looking to elevate the nastiest side of yesterday’s festivities, is circulating among reporters some of the uglier imagery seen on signs in the crowd.
Dems have now blasted a release to local press in a dozen GOP districts, demanding that individual House Republicans say whether they agree withpromise to “the extremist ‘tea party’ activists that not one Republican will vote for health insurance reform.”
Cantor’s
Yesterday, Cantor told the tea party crowd: “We are committed to making sure that not one Republican will vote for this bill.”
Dems say they are pushing local press to put GOP moderates such as Mary Bono Mack of California and Joseph Cao of Louisiana on the spot by asking them if they will honor Cantor’s pledge to the tea partiers.
Obviously, this is unlikely to change the votes of any of these GOPers, and in any case, the GOP vote isn’t important to the outcome of the final vote on the health care bill, which is now in doubt because of Dem defections.
But this shows Dems are intent on using yesterday’s festivities to bolster the Dems’ larger long-term strategy: To use the most lurid tea party antics and imagery to drive a wedge between moderates and conservatives, to staunch defections among independents, and to define the GOP as hostage to extreme elements in hopes of limiting Dem losses in 2010.
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Update: Post revised slightly from original.
Update II: Cantor’s office responds that he has called on the GOP to be more inclusive. “The Republican Party in its roots is a party of inclusion and we ought to be promoting that and making sure that voices are heard,” he said in an recent interview, adding that he doesn’t condone use of Hitler in any discussion of politics.
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“But this shows Dems are intent on using yesterday’s festivities to bolster the Dems’ larger long-term strategy”
That’s what I’m talkin’ bout. Smart.
From TPM.
Patriot Games: GOP Reps Pick Tea Party Rally Over National-Security Votes
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/patriot_games_gop_reps_pick_tea_party_rally_over_n.php?ref=fpblg
Excerpt:
“One measure, offered by Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the ranking Republican on the committee, failed to pass by a single vote, 15-15. Reps. King and Gohmert were absent.
Another, offered by Rep. Dan Lundgren (R-CA), failed by a vote of 11 to 8. Reps. King, Gohmert, Jordan, and Poe were all missing.
And a third, brought by Rep. Tom Rooney (R-FL), which would have bolstered the ability of local law enforcement to use a device that records phone numbers from a particular phone, failed by 12 to 10, with King, Gohmert, Jordan, Poe, and Franks all absent. “
Completely off-topic:
“The hero cop who ended the bloody rampage at Fort Hood by pumping four bullets into the crazed gunman even though she was wounded is known for her toughness, friends say.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/06/2009-11-06_police_sgt_kimberly_munley_credited_with_ending_fort_hood_gunman_maj_nidal_malik.html#ixzz0W6ebFPSA
“That’s what I’m talkin’ bout. Smart.”
I’d be mad as hell if they didn’t use the most lurid signs and the most batguano insane wingers against the GOP.
Saw that Liam, thanks. There is nothing lower than a Republican. They are slime sh*t scum. Fk them.
Says it all:
…had a few more of their own showed up to vote, instead of playing to the Tea Party crowd, perhaps they would have been able to fix some of what they didn’t like about it.
They don’t know sh*t and they don’t care about America at ALL. As I said, F em.
““One measure, offered by Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the ranking Republican on the committee, failed to pass by a single vote, 15-15. Reps. King and Gohmert were absent.
Another, offered by Rep. Dan Lundgren (R-CA), failed by a vote of 11 to 8.”
Considering what the votes were on, I say: T
What did I say about my keyboard?
Considering what the votes were on, I say: Thank you, Michelle Bachmann.
That was a win, as far as I’m concerned = that those Republican amendments that would have strengthened the Patriot Act, failed.
Each of our elected Congressional representatives needs to ask him/herself at the time of the historic vote before us the following. (The answers to which are no brainers):
After witnessing the 4000+ anti-health reform crowd play out the events of yesterday, how many would actually benefit, despite themselves, from health care reform legislation?
Were all (or any) of the demonstrators yesterday representative of the grand cross-section of our nation of 307,000,000 citizens?
Do the detractors of the efforts to bring sustainable health care reform have any better plan to keep more Americans alive, offer less-costly health care through coompetition and provide for more doctor/patient options not to be interfered with by death paneled insurance companies?
And finally, is a Congressional representative there to preserve his or her own elected status,or to provide the courage enough to embrace positive historic changes no matter what future campaigns should wrought?
I know the honorable answers to the above! I just hope the majority of our elected Congressional representatives do also! -Kevo
Carly Fiorina Sorry for Poor Voting Record
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/06/politics/main5549879.shtml
“Weeks after Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman was criticized over her poor voting record, U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina tried to fend off a similar line of questioning by owning up to her spotty past.
The former head of Hewlett-Packard, who is running for the seat now held by Democrat Barbara Boxer, said she has no excuse for not voting more often when people have died for that right.
“I’m a lifelong registered Republican but I haven’t always voted,” she said Thursday during an event in Sacramento. “And I will provide no excuse for it. You know, people die for the right to vote. And there are many, many Californians and Americans who exercise that civic duty on a regular basis. I didn’t. Shame on me.”
You think it’s a win when amendments that would have strengthened the act failed?
Liam – if you’re upset these measured failed then perhaps you should direct your ire at all of the Dems who voted against them?
???
“sustainable health care reform have any better plan to keep more Americans alive, offer less-costly health care”
sustainable?
less costly?
“u think it’s a win when amendments that would have strengthened the act failed?”
Hell yes!
I want to see it repealed.
The point Liam was making wasn’t about the actual amendments or the Patriot Act – it’s that those GOP members didn’t think it was important enough to skip the tea party.
Has nothing to do with what was in it = they s*c*r*e*w*e*d over their colleagues.
I am taking a small diversion path to say I’m glad personally they failed. I hate the Patriot Act – everything about it, starting with the name.
It’s about damn time that the Dems made Boehner, Cantor, Pence, et al., own the extremest message of the teabaggers. The GOP leadership may not want to acknowledge the racism and anti-semitism, but they cannot sow the wind without reaping the whirlwind when inciting the moron sheeple flock.
The GOP elite need to be confronted with the vile imagery of the teabaggers every time they speak. My guess is, if they feel the charges are sticking, they will cast aside – at least publicly – the teabaggers like yesterday’s trash.
I sincerely doubt that you hate everything about it.
Precisely Tena,
Those Republicans are just Teabag Patriots!
Unemployment is over 10% and you think independents and moderates are going to care more about Tea Partiers? You people are more clueless than the “president”.
“but they cannot sow the wind without reaping the whirlwind when inciting the moron sheeple flock.”
You got that. Somehow they missed the point of the several hundred Frankenstein movies; never mind the book.
“The GOP elite need to be confronted with the vile imagery of the teabaggers every time they speak. My guess is, if they feel the charges are sticking, they will cast aside – at least publicly – the teabaggers like yesterday’s trash.”
Something tells me the GOP couldn’t care less about what a bunch of losers who continue to use a juvenile *** joke to refer to these protesters think.
“I sincerely doubt that you hate everything about it.”
I sincerely doubt that there isn’t one thing in that act that I approve of that isn’t already covered elsewhere and could survive without that unconstitutional, unAmerican POS.
Somethings never change:
Republican Presidents cause Deep Recessions and Depressions, and then complain that Democratic Presidents are not cleaning up those Republican messes, fast enough.
@Tena
“I’d be mad as hell if they didn’t use the most lurid signs and the most batguano insane wingers against the GOP.”
A Democrat should make a copy of that holocaust poster and make a floor speech with it. Ask the GOP leadership to their faces why they feel they should be promoting this kind of vitrol.
And there’s no denying that GOP leadership was standing up right in front of this sort of filth and telling these wingnuts what great Americans they were.
F*** you, DC Republicans.
“Those Republicans are just Teabag Patriots.”
Ah, yet another juvenile moron. By the way, how is that 10.2% unemployment working out for you Dems? Evidently so well that the DNC has more time to worry about a bunch of protesters.
Joe Lieberman…filibustering Dem legislation into the ground since 2009.
“Somethings never change:
Republican Presidents cause Deep Recessions and Depressions, and then complain that Democratic Presidents are not cleaning up those Republican messes, fast enough.”
Word up. I’ve gone through this frakking cycle so many times now in my lifetime I’m damned fed up. I don’t want to see the GOP come back into power again for the rest of the my life. That’s doable, too. We held it for 40 years last time and I suspect I have a little over half that left.
“Republican Presidents cause Deep Recessions and Depressions, and then complain that Democratic Presidents are not cleaning up those Republican messes, fast enough.’
Sorry, no one is buying it anymore. The guy has been in office almost a year and unemployment has almost doubled. He hasn’t cleaned up anything. He has made it worse. The days of blaming Bush have long passed. It will be absolutely miraculous if Obama’s approval ratings stay over 50% in any poll after this one.
You better double down on your juvenile oral s#x jokes about the protesters.
Joe Lieberman…filibustering Dem legislation into the ground since 2009.
“I sincerely doubt that there isn’t one thing in that act that I approve of that isn’t already covered elsewhere and could survive without that unconstitutional, unAmerican POS.”
You seem to consistently disagree with much of what Obama supports? I like that!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/15/obama-supports-extending-_n_288054.html
Somethings never change:
Republican Presidents cause Deep Recessions and Depressions, and then Republicans start complaining that Democratic Presidents are not cleaning up those Republican messes, fast enough.
sbj- Give it up – you cannot shake my support for Obama.
“Republican Presidents cause Deep Recessions and Depressions, and then Republicans start complaining that Democratic Presidents are not cleaning up those Republican messes, fast enough.”
WORD
@tena: Not so much trying to shake your support as amused by your inability to acknowledge your own inconsistencies.
Greg – where’s that poll you posted the other day that shows that a large majority of AMerians blame the economic problems we have on the Republicans?
See, the problem the GOP and their trolls have is that they’ve done this now so many times that they cannot point back at us any more. People are wise to them now.
More to the topic: “Eric Cantor’s pledge to the tea party rally yesterday that no GOPers will back the health care bill.”
Seems very hard to believe that not one GOPer will support the bill. Isn’t Cantor setting the bar a bit too high?
“by your inability to acknowledge your own inconsistencies.”
[yawn] yeah it’s inconsistent for me to support a man I disaagree with on some things.
I have only told you about 200 times now that I don’t expect to agree with everything Obama thinks, every position he holds, every decision he makes.
I only agree with Mr. Tena about 2/3ds of the time.
You seem to consistently disagree with much of what Obama supports? I like that!
Thinking human beings rarely agree 100% of the time. Unlike. . .
sbj, we’re constantly amused at what a pathetic piece of trash you are. We laugh at you not with you.
Go do yourself a favor and see a psychiatrist (or a better one).
sbj… your not buying into the DCCC strategy that a no vote for HCR is a yes vote for teabaggers?
Greg… do you plan to expand on your remarks: “which is now in doubt because of Dem defections.”
Yeah sure Cantor calls on the GOP to be “inclusive” and “diapproves” of Hitler references. NOW.
Yesterday he wasn’t saying that.
“Cantor’s office responds that….”
STFU, lying piece of human garbage.
Tena… today he’s using his inside the dome voice. Yesterday he was using his outside the dome voice and according to some yesterday it was deeper.
Help Us To Find The Cure.
The Boston Tea Party was staged by Americans who were Protesting against Taxation Without Representation.
The Republican Teabaggers are rallying to demand: Representation Without Taxation.
Republican Teabaggers are really just Dyslexic Patriots.
Under Health Care Reform, no one should be denied coverage because they suffer from Dyslexic Patriotism. Teabagging is just the manifest sympthom of a horrible affliction.
Hate The Teabag, but never the person. A cure for Dyslexic Patriotism is just Around The Bend.
I love it when Joe Filibusters,
Why is it that you only quote economic indicators which fit neatly into your theory? If your “Obama is failing” meme had any merit to it, shouldn’t every indicator support your theory? It is curious how you fail to mention other economic indicators which show that the recession is waning, if not over.
Granted, unemployment is over 10%. Is it your contention that is wholly Obama’s doing? Such an contention would seem to be an admission that Obama is a far more powerful a president that Bush. A mere 8 months of Obama can totally erase 8 years of Bush. Who knew? The rate of unemployment growth has been slowing for months. What will you do if the unemployment rate goes down? What then of your unsustainable meme?
W blamed Clinton’s policies for about 7 years of his presidency. Obama gets less than one before anything that has ever happened is his responsibility? Why the hypocritical double standard?
If you don’t like the teabagger moniker, don’t blame me, it was the teabaggers themselves who adopted it. That they did not initially know that it is also a vulgar slang term for a sexual act is not my fault. I see no reason to use any term for them other than the one that they themselves initially chose. That it exposes how unaware and uninformed they are makes it all the more appropriate. Besides, at video of nearly every single one of their rallies, I STILL see people with tea bags adorning their hats. They STILL cling to the imagery. Teabaggers they remain.
If you haven’t noticed, the teabagger nonsense does not resonate beyond the sheeple flock. That you bleat in unison with them does not prove you right, it merely proves that you are stupid.
Ethan – why do you sweep a broad stroke across the Republian aisle? Your rhetoric is filled with rage – indicative of the very people you seem to be condemning. I have been a Republican for the past 30+ years. I find your bigotry a bit daunting! -Kevo
@Andy: “sbj… your not buying into the DCCC strategy that a no vote for HCR is a yes vote for teabaggers?”
Good one! That’s what they’d like, isn’t it? Like most “thinking human beings” I feel it is possible to vote against the House Bill for perfectly sane reasons. Heck, I’ll bet one or two of those No votes will come from folks who aren’t even racist lying pieces of human garbage batguano insane wingers!
“I have only told you about 200 times now that I don’t expect to agree with everything Obama thinks, every position he holds, every decision he makes.”
If you’ve already disagreed with Obama 200 times perhaps it’s time to rethink your support?
Kevo, sounds like you’re in wrong party.
“Tena… today he’s using his inside the dome voice. Yesterday he was using his outside the dome voice and according to some yesterday it was deeper.”
LOL
I think I posted that comment of Josh’s. I did read it – Josh has been getting off some outstanding one-liners lately.
“Your rhetoric is filled with rage – indicative of the very people you seem to be condemning. I have been a Republican for the past 30+ years. I find your bigotry a bit daunting!”
The anger is righteous and if you’ve been a Repug for the last 30 + years, then you ought to know why we’re angry.
Especially after the last 8 years – they were an unmitigated disaster of the Republicans’ making.
All thinking Americans are mad at the GOP for ruining just about everything, but especially the economy. It’s a miracle Obama was able to keep the whole damn thing from coming down like a house of cards after y’all got through with it.
Why am I filled with rage?
How about a huge poster of my dead, murdered, gassed ancestors at your f__king little Neo-Confederate, Neo-Fascist “rally” yesterday.
When 6 million of YOUR people are killed in a Genocide I’m going to rub it in your f__king face just like you did to me.
F__k off a$$hole.
I like the inside/outside voice analogy for Cantor. Don’t denounce the holocaust posters when they are at the rally you are speaking at. Have your staff make a quiet correction later. He sure must be proud of his Jewish heritage to speak in front of those who belittle his people’s suffering by comparing it to health care reform.
I’ll stand by statements I’ve made elsewhere today – when Eric Cantor, a fellow Jew, stands on stage in from of people calling our president a Nazi and comparing a health care bill to Nazi concentration camps and says nothing right there he is a slimy, hypocritical little weasel. When a Jew cannot condemn this personally and in person when it happens he is just a sack of sh$t.
richard and Alan – The GOP can point at the Left all they want and claim we made the same analogies about Bush but their problem is that they have gotten a lot of publicity for doing that and we didn’t get any because we didn’t do it anywhere except online and one submitted to MoveOn vid that was rejected and the press ignored us DFH’s, anyway.
So it’s linked now in people’s minds with the GOP, thoroughly. And it’s a very sad, tawdry statement about the Right that this is where they’ve gone.
I don’t think most of the major “leaders” (and I use that term very loosly) of the GOP condone the kind of extremist b.s. as evidenced yesterday. But, it doesn’t take a genius to see that rational people wouldn’t want to have anything to do with that kind of rabble. So, while those leaders may be guilty of sin of omission by not calling such extremism out, they will be hard-pressed to find many American Jews who want to “hang” with them.
Seems like they trot out the “inclusion” cliche after something like yesterday happens.
I think the GOP is seriously schizophenic…
Good plan for the Dems — attack and demonize ordinary citizen activists exercising their 1st Am rights. Just get back to shrieking that everyone opposed to Obama’s agenda is a racist extremist.
I say go with that theme.
qb-
“Ordinary citizen activists”-is that what those who were holding that sign are called now?
You have some information they were something else?
Ya know, I’ve heard liberals being called moral relativists for years but who woulda thought that it could be applied so *broadly*…(rolls eyes)
I guess no one told those people that only special people like Dems on the floor of the house can invoke the Holocaust.
You libs have no standing to ever complain about offensive signs or rhetoric. Your outrage is 100% phony.
sbj, you dishonest troll. Dems can and often disagree with their leaders. Unlike lock stepping, goose marching brownshirt repugs.
The Republican Great Depression was a result of right wing policies that allowed a massive scale of gambling that took down the entire global financial system in the 1930’s.
The left wing came in and cleaned up the right wing’s mess by using massive government stimulus (and yes, that massive government stimulus including the government’s expenditures during World War II).
But moreover, the left wing instituted a system of rules and regulations that would prevent the right wing from gambling the country into a hole again.
But then Republican Reagan conned a majority of Americans into believing that government was the problem and that if gubmint got out of the way of the right wing gamblers then everyone would get ponies.
Instead the right wing gambled this country into ANOTHER financial hole.
The only thing that kept US out of a Second Republican Great Recession was … a massive government intervention.
Instead of another Great Depression we managed to squeak by (so far) with only the 2007 Republican Great Recession, which still butchered shareholders wealth by only 40% to 60%.
Now, to prevent another financial collapse would require the return of the left wing’s rules and regulations but the right wing are fighting those sensible rules and regulations tooth and nail.
And isn’t it ironic that it’s the left wing who are being the true financial conservatives?
Isn’t it ironic that it’s the left wing who are being the true law enforcement conservatives?
It’s the left wing who are trying to prevent another financial collapse, it’s the left wing who are trying to preserve capitalist investments, it’s the left wing who are trying to preserve the stock market.
It’s the left wing who are trying to regulate the right wing gamblers recklessness in order to prevent another Republican Financial Collapse.
The right wing wants to gamble this country’s future.
The left wing is trying to build this country back after the right wing’s gambling losses threw this country into the Republican created Great Recession.
quarterback,
The blowhard speaks! OK, a$$hat, show any evidence of reciprocal Nazi/Hitler/Holocaust imagery by Democrats or STFU! You regularly chime in with “oh yeah, well you did it too!” when confronted with indefensible behavior by Republicans.
Unless you can back up that assertion with proof, as you said, “only special people like Dems on the floor of the house can invoke the Holocaust” you should shut your pie-hole.
Besides your loathsome advocacy for torture, you are apparently an anti-Semitic bigot. Somehow that doesn’t really surprise me.
If there is an inhumane, loathsome, despicable position on any issue, you will most certainly take it.
Gasbag,
So soon after being exposed as a rank liar and peddler of Ubermoron and MMA fabrications, you are back with your schtick? I do like your lovely language, so fitting for a “devout Christian” like you.
I’ve posted links to lots of lib/Dem Nazi/Hitler signs and accusations here in the past. I don’t owe you a thing. You lying cretins play the same game all the time — every week you pretend the sky isn’t blue again and demand someone prove it.
Do some googling — start with zombietime, Michelle Malkin, and Dkos. Dkos keep a nice thread on favorite Bush nicknames with some really special stuff in it. Look up Robert Byrd comparing Bush to Goering. Look up John Glenn comparing Republicans to Nazis. Al Gore screaming about Brown Shirts and traitors. It’s all there. Your good pals Tena and Imsinca already tried this game of denying any of that ever happened, and I shut both of them up.
Or, hey, just read this blog — you folks throw around Nazi/Holocaust rhetoric all the time.
Invoking the Holocaust in the House? How big an ignoramus are you? Ever hear of Alan Grayson, who is celebrated on this blog as a national hero?
I know it burns you deeply that I exposed you as an idiotic liar. But you’ve just made a fool of yourself yet again by lashing out to try to get some sort of misguided revenge.
If anyone would like to see what a colossal liar Gasbag is, and how committed he is to his lies even when they are shredded in front of him, just go back to the Fox news thread 10/30. LOL — You will never have a bit of credibility, Gasbag.
You, Gasbag, claim to be a “devout Christian.” As your ravings above again prove, you instead are in thrall to the Father of Lies. It must make you miserable to hate so passionately, to seethe in your anger, and to want revenge so badly, and to be powerless — because you are witless.
“Dems can and often disagree with their leaders. Unlike lock stepping, goose marching brownshirt repugs.”
LOL, here all I have been reading lately is how the GOP is in open civil war, splitting apart, etc.
How hard would it be for you to condemn that imagery? Cantor did it. It doesn’t matter who did or didn’t do it in the past or what party they belong to, *and you know it*! Stop using the “Dems did it too” obfuscation.
As for Americans exercising their 1st Amendment rights-you seem to be confusing outrage over the manner with allowing them to make idiots of themselves. As far as I know, no one attempted to stop them.
quarterback,
Your claims of Dems invoking the Holocaust from the floor of the House are still unsubstantiated. Put up or shut up. You made the charge, now back it up.
It is amusing how cavalierly you sling the charge of liar, “peddler of Ubermoron and MMA fabrications,” and ‘Stalinist,” to any add all who have the temerity to merely disagree with you. If you cannot support your outrageous claims then you are guilty of lying are you not?
I am also getting sick and tired or your overt bigotry concerning my religious faith. In a discussion about why I did not support torture, I brought up my faith in order to explain my position. Ever since then you have frequently mocked and derided my religious beliefs. That you are bigoted enough to do so surprises me not in the least. However, my participation in this forum should not be predicated upon suffering your bigoted insults regarding my professed faith.
This site’s “Discussion and Submission Policy” clearly states:
“By submitting any information, content or materials to the Site, you are consenting to these rules:
1. You agree not to submit inappropriate content. Inappropriate content includes any content that:
. harasses, degrades, intimidates or is hateful toward an individual or a group of individuals on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual preference, disability, age or other classification;”
You have repeatedly and consistently chosen to ignore these rules and insult me based upon my religious beliefs. I have had enough. I find your disparaging remarks regarding my faith to be no more appropriate than if you had made bigoted remarks regarding my ethnicity or my sexual orientation. I will not tolerate your religious bigotry any longer.
I am sending an official complaint to the moderator of the site requesting that the policy regarding inappropriate conduct be enforced. Nobody should have to suffer your narrow minded insults simply because you are an arrogant, ignorant, hate filled bigot.
*staunch => stanch
It’s difficult to respond to right wingers like nickleback who don’t have the decency to be honest or courteous.
Unfortunately, frauds and liars like nickleback are increasingly the loudest voices on the right and increasingly control the Republican Party.
Perhaps the most Orwellian absurdity of right wing con-artists like nickleback is the claim that the actual video of right wingers saying insane lies didn’t really happen even while it’s meticulously recorded and cataloged by http://MediaMatters.org
The fact that Media Matters keeps the video of right wingers saying crazy lies and then puts the actual video online is why right wingers hate Media Matters.
Gasbag,
You are really a gas. Please, when you make your “complaint,” be sure submit to the moderator your full history of unhinged attacks on me. I don’t mock your claimed religious views. I deny you are what you claim, based on the proof of your habitually hateful and vile attacks on me — and on everyone else who disagrees with you.
Let’s remind everyone that YOU cited your supposed “devout” Christianity in attacking not only my opinions but me personally, immediately after I came to this blog, because I had the temerity to question whether Greg had actually shown that Dick Cheney had lied about the effectiveness of EIT. YOU openly attacked my lack — in your view — of religious faith. That was YOU, Gasbag. You are the most consistently hateful and inappropriate attack artist on this blog, and you IMMEDIATELY attacked my faith and touted your own in your first attacks on me. YOU attacked me, Gasbag, and YOU have stalked me on this blog from the start.
I hope you do submit your “official” complaint, because you will if anything only draw attention to your own consistently inappopriate behavior.
Oh and Gasbag,
You are also the most ignorant and uninformed poster.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Grayson_Ill_apologize_to_the_dead.html
” If you cannot support your outrageous claims then you are guilty of lying are you not?”
See, e.g., Oct. 30 Fox News thread — in which Gasbag attacks me and makes claims about Fox that I conclusively proved to be lies from Ubermoron and MMA.
But I understand that truth and lies are indistinguishable to Gasbag. That’s why you are always caught in your fantasy world.
Here is a sampling of Gasbag’s idea of appropriate commentary:
“quarterback,
The blowhard speaks! OK, a$$hat, show any evidence of reciprocal Nazi/Hitler/Holocaust imagery by Democrats or STFU! ”
“Besides your loathsome advocacy for torture, you are apparently an anti-Semitic bigot. Somehow that doesn’t really surprise me.
If there is an inhumane, loathsome, despicable position on any issue, you will most certainly take it.”
Could Gasbag be more hypocritical and whiny?
quarterback,
It is true. I have zero respect or patience for you. You, or at least the personae that you have chosen to adopt on this site, appears to be without any merits whatsoever. Your continued advocacy for torture places you in the company of the most loathsome tyrants in history. Much can be inferred from the company you keep.
I’m sure the moderator is more than capable of retrieving the posts in question and judging the matter without influence from either of us.
I’ll endure your hyperbolic lies and ad nauseam ad hominem attacks. However, I will not tolerate further snide or disparaging remarks regarding my religion. If you can’t refrain from attacking someone’s religion, you have essentially conceded that your standing on the issues is factually and morally bankrupt.
Only bigoted cowards have to resort to those kind of attacks. But then, you are a bigoted coward.
Yes, I thought so. Reminded of your own record of calumnies and lies and personal attacks, you think better of “reporting” me. Oh, and I was so afraid.
“Your continued advocacy for torture”
Once again YOU LIE.
You can’t make the simplest point without lying. Nor without displaying your utter ignorance, as you also do again. You have lied and smeared me with baseless accusations from the beginning, and you were utterly uninformed about the facts. You didn’t even know what interrogation practices you were talking about when you started these vicious and false accusations.
“your hyperbolic lies and ad nauseam ad hominem attacks”
These are all that come out of your mouth. You have never even once identified one lie by me, and you have never stated even a single fact that was true. You rarely state facts to begin with. I, on the other hand, have repeatedly exposed you as a vicious and reckless liar. Factually, not with the unfounded rhetoric that is all you know, as with your reckless lies that Fox News doctored transcripts. YOU LIED.
“If you can’t refrain from attacking someone’s religion, you have essentially conceded that your standing on the issues is factually and morally bankrupt.”
Again, Gasbag, you wicked liar, YOU attacked my faith and touted your own in your very first comment aimed at me back in September. YOU claimed to be morally superior because YOU were a “devout Christian” and implied that I could not be a Christian and was inferior to you. Of course, you had already called me such things as a “moral Lilliputian” and “coward.”
YOU attacked me on religious grounds, Gasbag, NOT the other way around. YOU did what you accuse me of. I merely pointed out what I again point out: Your words expose you for the fraudelent “Christian” you are. Your claims to speak as a Christian are a slander on the very God whose name you misappropriate. And you know I speak the truth on this. That is why you are so impotently enraged.
So, no, Gasbag, I am NEVER going to allow you to keep spouting these lies and accusing me of your own offenses without refuting you.
quarterback,
You are ever the victim, you have been oh so persecuted. How do you manage to cope?
I’m not a victim at all. I could never be a victim of feckless charlatan like you — something a bitter soul like yours can’t comprehend.
QB,
You have yet to explain how I am a Stalinist.
Right winger “quarterback” is a classic case of a bullying thug that turns around and cries when someone doesn’t take their abuse.
It’s a peculiarly pervasive right wing malady: Bully people and then cry like babies if someone stands up to you.
Even while the right wing controlled all three branches of government (and were operating illegally outside of those lawful branches on top of that) right wingers were still quick to whine that they were being ‘persecuted’ whenever anyone asked them hard questions.
In “quarterback’s” case, all he would have to do when accused of supporting torture is to make a firm resolve to speak out against torture whenever the subject came up.
But he doesn’t.
The conclusion: Right winger “quarterback” condones torture.
It’s the Right Wing ****** Party.