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	<title>Comments on: Bush&#8217;s Man In Iran Lauds Obama&#8217;s Handling Of Iran Crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Jonthan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonthan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what triggered all of this.  Could it be that young Iranians see what Iraq has now and they want  freedom and democracy as well?  Was this part of the plan all along?  That is what I always thought.  I hope Obama can close the deal though.  

Do you suppose Obama is nervous about these happenings?  Revolutions trigger others and there are many in our country itching for for one.  Fortunately, we tend to use a more &quot;civil disobedience&quot;.  With that having been said, John F. Kennedy once said, &quot;Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.&quot; So don&#039;t forget what Thomas Jefferson pointed out, &quot;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what triggered all of this.  Could it be that young Iranians see what Iraq has now and they want  freedom and democracy as well?  Was this part of the plan all along?  That is what I always thought.  I hope Obama can close the deal though.  </p>
<p>Do you suppose Obama is nervous about these happenings?  Revolutions trigger others and there are many in our country itching for for one.  Fortunately, we tend to use a more &#8220;civil disobedience&#8221;.  With that having been said, John F. Kennedy once said, &#8220;Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.&#8221; So don&#8217;t forget what Thomas Jefferson pointed out, &#8220;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sweetjane</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetjane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obama reaction :  i ran!!!!  (IRAN)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama reaction :  i ran!!!!  (IRAN)</p>
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		<title>By: sweetjane</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetjane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBAMA RUNS FROM IRAN!!!

I always thought our colors (flag) never runs...however obama proved me wrong!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBAMA RUNS FROM IRAN!!!</p>
<p>I always thought our colors (flag) never runs&#8230;however obama proved me wrong!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Obama is doing the right thing by staying out from Iran&#039;s issues
the fact that the administration asked Twitter to remain opens means that President Obama understand and closely follow the situation.
If he is smart as I think he is. He should continue to stay out and not get involves
If he starts meddling with Iran, He would fall right into  President Ahmadinejad hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama is doing the right thing by staying out from Iran&#8217;s issues<br />
the fact that the administration asked Twitter to remain opens means that President Obama understand and closely follow the situation.<br />
If he is smart as I think he is. He should continue to stay out and not get involves<br />
If he starts meddling with Iran, He would fall right into  President Ahmadinejad hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Reaganite Republican Resistance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaganite Republican Resistance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn’t this what George W Bush told you was going to happen in the Middle East?

Maybe that’s why Barack Obama has so little apparent interest in finishing the job in Iran… no matter how much it benefits the US and free world.

Anyone who expected him to act in the interests of the United States -rather than for his own political security- hasn’t taken a serious look at how Obama got this far in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t this what George W Bush told you was going to happen in the Middle East?</p>
<p>Maybe that’s why Barack Obama has so little apparent interest in finishing the job in Iran… no matter how much it benefits the US and free world.</p>
<p>Anyone who expected him to act in the interests of the United States -rather than for his own political security- hasn’t taken a serious look at how Obama got this far in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: wjl</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jax: further, remember the mantra of the 80&#039;s when dealing with the soviets: trust but verify. how do you think it would have worked out if we invaded the ussr instead of using diplomacy to postpone conflict until the system fell apart on it&#039;s own? but that might be asking too much of your type - thinking that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jax: further, remember the mantra of the 80&#8217;s when dealing with the soviets: trust but verify. how do you think it would have worked out if we invaded the ussr instead of using diplomacy to postpone conflict until the system fell apart on it&#8217;s own? but that might be asking too much of your type &#8211; thinking that is.</p>
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		<title>By: wjl</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jax: and only the paranoid or megolomaniacle chose military solutions before exhausting diplomacy. which are you (i&#039;m guessing the former)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jax: and only the paranoid or megolomaniacle chose military solutions before exhausting diplomacy. which are you (i&#8217;m guessing the former)?</p>
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		<title>By: jax</title>
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		<dc:creator>jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so to the majority of dopes on this post I guess doing nothing is smart power. Only the weak believe weakness is power. Come on 2010!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so to the majority of dopes on this post I guess doing nothing is smart power. Only the weak believe weakness is power. Come on 2010!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links await moderation so I&#039;ll post content in the meantime.
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@SimonJ: You know, I have never once in this thread advocated for injecting ourselves into the present trouble in a ham-handed fashion. I disagree that we should do nothing for fear of being branded hypocrites: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” While I agree that we should be careful not to provide an excuse to justify actions, I do think there’s a right way to exert greater influence. (See Reagan/Poland link.) I don’t believe our message should be “we won’t meddle,” and I think that the violence there is more than simply “troubling.” It seems to me that the message we are delivering right now is that we will still talk to this govt without preconditions no matter how badly they stomp on the protesters. There has to be a limit to what we will abide and there should be consequences; I haven’t heard much about the consequences Iran might suffer for a brutal crackdown on dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links await moderation so I&#8217;ll post content in the meantime.<br />
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@SimonJ: You know, I have never once in this thread advocated for injecting ourselves into the present trouble in a ham-handed fashion. I disagree that we should do nothing for fear of being branded hypocrites: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” While I agree that we should be careful not to provide an excuse to justify actions, I do think there’s a right way to exert greater influence. (See Reagan/Poland link.) I don’t believe our message should be “we won’t meddle,” and I think that the violence there is more than simply “troubling.” It seems to me that the message we are delivering right now is that we will still talk to this govt without preconditions no matter how badly they stomp on the protesters. There has to be a limit to what we will abide and there should be consequences; I haven’t heard much about the consequences Iran might suffer for a brutal crackdown on dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: sbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SimonJ: You know, I have never once in this thread advocated for injecting ourselves into the present trouble in a ham-handed fashion. I disagree that we should do nothing for fear of being branded hypocrites: &quot;A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.&quot; While I  agree that we should be careful not to provide an excuse to justify actions, I do think there&#039;s a right way to exert greater influence. (See Reagan/Poland link.) I don&#039;t believe our message should be &quot;we won&#039;t meddle,&quot; and I think that the violence there is more than simply &quot;troubling.&quot; It seems to me that the message we are delivering right now is that we will still talk to this govt without preconditions no matter how badly they stomp on the protesters. There has to be a limit to what we will abide and there should be consequences; I haven&#039;t heard much about the consequences Iran might suffer for a brutal crackdown on dissent.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/16/reagan-didnt-remain-silent-on-poland/
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http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzVhYjk5NGI5ZWU5NmRhYzk5ODY5ZmZiZDNmZTZmMmM=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SimonJ: You know, I have never once in this thread advocated for injecting ourselves into the present trouble in a ham-handed fashion. I disagree that we should do nothing for fear of being branded hypocrites: &#8220;A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.&#8221; While I  agree that we should be careful not to provide an excuse to justify actions, I do think there&#8217;s a right way to exert greater influence. (See Reagan/Poland link.) I don&#8217;t believe our message should be &#8220;we won&#8217;t meddle,&#8221; and I think that the violence there is more than simply &#8220;troubling.&#8221; It seems to me that the message we are delivering right now is that we will still talk to this govt without preconditions no matter how badly they stomp on the protesters. There has to be a limit to what we will abide and there should be consequences; I haven&#8217;t heard much about the consequences Iran might suffer for a brutal crackdown on dissent.<br />
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<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/16/reagan-didnt-remain-silent-on-poland/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/16/reagan-didnt-remain-silent-on-poland/</a><br />
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<a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzVhYjk5NGI5ZWU5NmRhYzk5ODY5ZmZiZDNmZTZmMmM=" rel="nofollow">http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzVhYjk5NGI5ZWU5NmRhYzk5ODY5ZmZiZDNmZTZmMmM=</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sbj: you gloss over the fact that the Saudis funded the madressas in Pakistan which in turn produced so many of the jihadis. Saudi&#039;s used their passports to enter the US for the 9/11 disaster because Saudi passports enabled a travel agent to issue US visas. No other Arab country enjoyed that advantage.

Perhaps we should not revisit the Iraq War; it&#039;s been hashed over but still rears it head in court cases. But any attempt on our part to inject ourselves into the present trouble in Iran will give A&#039;jad and the Ayatollahs  an excuse to justify their actions against the protesters. If we have learned anything, it is that our sense of self-righteousness brands us as hypocrites because we are selective about the issues and countries we criticise in the Middle and Near East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sbj: you gloss over the fact that the Saudis funded the madressas in Pakistan which in turn produced so many of the jihadis. Saudi&#8217;s used their passports to enter the US for the 9/11 disaster because Saudi passports enabled a travel agent to issue US visas. No other Arab country enjoyed that advantage.</p>
<p>Perhaps we should not revisit the Iraq War; it&#8217;s been hashed over but still rears it head in court cases. But any attempt on our part to inject ourselves into the present trouble in Iran will give A&#8217;jad and the Ayatollahs  an excuse to justify their actions against the protesters. If we have learned anything, it is that our sense of self-righteousness brands us as hypocrites because we are selective about the issues and countries we criticise in the Middle and Near East.</p>
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		<title>By: sbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you guys getting the idea that I support the invasion of several countries? (And thanks for the Jefferson essay.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you guys getting the idea that I support the invasion of several countries? (And thanks for the Jefferson essay.)</p>
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		<title>By: iLarynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>iLarynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sbj - &quot;I do not think the two situations analogous. The authorization for the use of force provided many reasons for the invasion of Iraq and, while you might not agree with them, many of the reasons do not apply to Saudi Arabia.&quot;
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Many of the reasons given to invade Iraq also did not apply to Iraq either. Nor reality. 
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Among the whoppers:
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Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsi- 
bility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, 
including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are 
known to be in Iraq; 
.
Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security 
of the United States and international peace and security in 
the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable 
breach of its international obligations by, among other things, 
continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and 
biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons 
capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations; 

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, 
underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition 
of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist 
organizations; 
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Whereas Iraq’s demonstrated capability and willingness to use 
weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi 
regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise 
attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide 
them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme 
magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and 
its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by 
the United States to defend itself; 
http://www.c-span.org/resources/pdf/hjres114.pdf
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BTW - MOST of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi. NONE were Iraqi. 
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The two major reasons given in the AUMF were based on the false assumption that Iraq was linked to 9/11, and that Iraq was about to be able to turn an American city into &quot;a mushroom cloud&quot; with the WMD that Rummy said he knew for a fact, existed and where they were in Iraq. 
http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm
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These two excuses for invading Iraq were known to be false at the time, and time (and the Duelfer Report) has since proven the already dubious claims of the AUMF false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sbj &#8211; &#8220;I do not think the two situations analogous. The authorization for the use of force provided many reasons for the invasion of Iraq and, while you might not agree with them, many of the reasons do not apply to Saudi Arabia.&#8221;<br />
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Many of the reasons given to invade Iraq also did not apply to Iraq either. Nor reality.<br />
.<br />
Among the whoppers:<br />
&#8212;<br />
Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsi-<br />
bility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests,<br />
including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are<br />
known to be in Iraq;<br />
.<br />
Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security<br />
of the United States and international peace and security in<br />
the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable<br />
breach of its international obligations by, among other things,<br />
continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and<br />
biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons<br />
capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations; </p>
<p>Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001,<br />
underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition<br />
of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist<br />
organizations;<br />
.<br />
Whereas Iraq’s demonstrated capability and willingness to use<br />
weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi<br />
regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise<br />
attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide<br />
them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme<br />
magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and<br />
its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by<br />
the United States to defend itself;<br />
<a href="http://www.c-span.org/resources/pdf/hjres114.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-span.org/resources/pdf/hjres114.pdf</a><br />
&#8212;<br />
BTW &#8211; MOST of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi. NONE were Iraqi.<br />
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The two major reasons given in the AUMF were based on the false assumption that Iraq was linked to 9/11, and that Iraq was about to be able to turn an American city into &#8220;a mushroom cloud&#8221; with the WMD that Rummy said he knew for a fact, existed and where they were in Iraq.<br />
<a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm</a><br />
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These two excuses for invading Iraq were known to be false at the time, and time (and the Duelfer Report) has since proven the already dubious claims of the AUMF false.</p>
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		<title>By: wjl</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sbl: based upon your list of reasons to invade iraq, we should also then invade n korea and iran (invasion/war with neighbors, &#039;bellicosity&#039;, support of terrorists, weapons of mass distruction, flaunting of un sanction - true in both cases). but the world is not as simple as you and the military-dodging, cowboy-esque leaders of the last administration (and the GOP in general) would like it to be. even george sr realized this and stopped at the iraq/kuwait border. the reason we went into iraq is quite simple - bush &amp; co. thought it would be easy, thought it would scare/impress the rest of the world (aka the aforementioned n korea and iran), and thought there was commercial/economic benefit to be had. they were sadly wrong on all counts but that&#039;s what happens when silver-spoon neocons play army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sbl: based upon your list of reasons to invade iraq, we should also then invade n korea and iran (invasion/war with neighbors, &#8216;bellicosity&#8217;, support of terrorists, weapons of mass distruction, flaunting of un sanction &#8211; true in both cases). but the world is not as simple as you and the military-dodging, cowboy-esque leaders of the last administration (and the GOP in general) would like it to be. even george sr realized this and stopped at the iraq/kuwait border. the reason we went into iraq is quite simple &#8211; bush &amp; co. thought it would be easy, thought it would scare/impress the rest of the world (aka the aforementioned n korea and iran), and thought there was commercial/economic benefit to be had. they were sadly wrong on all counts but that&#8217;s what happens when silver-spoon neocons play army.</p>
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		<title>By: iLarynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>iLarynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sbj - &quot;I love the fact that Obama now almost entirely embraces the Bush view that Democracy is the God-given right of all people and I hope that he says more along these lines in future.&quot;

Excuse me? Bush&#039;s view? How about Jefferson and Madison? Remember them? Attributing this basic American perspective to George W. Bush is a bit more than just foolish. As is the implication that Obama ONLY NOW embraces this view that goes back to Jefferson&#039;s penning of the Declaration of Independence. 

Jefferson&#039;s view, as that of other Democrats as well as Obama I suspect, is that America&#039;s liberty is to be as a beacon to the world lighting the way to freedom. Liberty is not something that can be merely foisted upon a people in the Bush/Rummy/Cheney style, as those who have read Jefferson&#039;s writings (particularly on the French Revolution) would know. 

&quot;Instead of that liberty which takes root and growth in the progress of reason, if recovered by mere force or accident, it becomes with an unprepared people a tyranny still of the many, the few, or the one.&quot; --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1815. ME 14:245

&quot;In these countries [of Europe],... ignorance, superstition, poverty, and oppression of body and mind, in every form, are so firmly settled on the mass of the people, that their redemption from them can never be hoped. If the Almighty had begotten a thousand sons, instead of one, they would not have sufficed for this task. If all the sovereigns of Europe were to set themselves to work, to emancipate the minds of their subjects from their present ignorance and prejudices, and that, as zealously as they now endeavor the contrary, a thousand years would not place them on that high ground, on which our common people are now setting out.&quot; --Thomas Jefferson to George Wythe, 1786. ME 5:396
Otherwise, the &quot;If Iraq, why not invade Saudi Arabia&quot; argument is valid. And why not Uzbekistan? Or why not any other dictatorship that would require decades of US involvement, trillions of dollars, and thousands of American lives? 

Obama may be able to salvage something of Bush&#039;s failed foreign policies, but it&#039;s a long shot at best. That doesn&#039;t mean Bush&#039;s policies weren&#039;t a disaster to begin with. Just because the tow-truck operator is able to pull the bus out of the ditch doesn&#039;t mean the bus driver was a great driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sbj &#8211; &#8220;I love the fact that Obama now almost entirely embraces the Bush view that Democracy is the God-given right of all people and I hope that he says more along these lines in future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me? Bush&#8217;s view? How about Jefferson and Madison? Remember them? Attributing this basic American perspective to George W. Bush is a bit more than just foolish. As is the implication that Obama ONLY NOW embraces this view that goes back to Jefferson&#8217;s penning of the Declaration of Independence. </p>
<p>Jefferson&#8217;s view, as that of other Democrats as well as Obama I suspect, is that America&#8217;s liberty is to be as a beacon to the world lighting the way to freedom. Liberty is not something that can be merely foisted upon a people in the Bush/Rummy/Cheney style, as those who have read Jefferson&#8217;s writings (particularly on the French Revolution) would know. </p>
<p>&#8220;Instead of that liberty which takes root and growth in the progress of reason, if recovered by mere force or accident, it becomes with an unprepared people a tyranny still of the many, the few, or the one.&#8221; &#8211;Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1815. ME 14:245</p>
<p>&#8220;In these countries [of Europe],&#8230; ignorance, superstition, poverty, and oppression of body and mind, in every form, are so firmly settled on the mass of the people, that their redemption from them can never be hoped. If the Almighty had begotten a thousand sons, instead of one, they would not have sufficed for this task. If all the sovereigns of Europe were to set themselves to work, to emancipate the minds of their subjects from their present ignorance and prejudices, and that, as zealously as they now endeavor the contrary, a thousand years would not place them on that high ground, on which our common people are now setting out.&#8221; &#8211;Thomas Jefferson to George Wythe, 1786. ME 5:396<br />
Otherwise, the &#8220;If Iraq, why not invade Saudi Arabia&#8221; argument is valid. And why not Uzbekistan? Or why not any other dictatorship that would require decades of US involvement, trillions of dollars, and thousands of American lives? </p>
<p>Obama may be able to salvage something of Bush&#8217;s failed foreign policies, but it&#8217;s a long shot at best. That doesn&#8217;t mean Bush&#8217;s policies weren&#8217;t a disaster to begin with. Just because the tow-truck operator is able to pull the bus out of the ditch doesn&#8217;t mean the bus driver was a great driver.</p>
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