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MoveOn Fundraising Email Invoking Sarah Palin’s “Lies” Brings In $100,000 In One Day

Wow, it looks like Sarah Palin is one heck of a prolific fundraiser — for the left, that is.

A fundraising email that MoveOn blasted out yesterday afternoon calling for cash to counter Palin’s “lies” on climate change has brought in more than $100,000 in 24 hours, a MoveOn spokesman confirms to me.

MoveOn blasted out the call for cash in response to Palin’s Op ed in the Washington Post attacking Obama’s cap and trade plan as an “enormous threat to our economy.”

“This is the same Sarah Palin who doesn’t believe climate change is caused by humans,” MoveOn’s fundraising email read. “Now she’s positioning herself as the face of the conservative attack against clean energy.”

“Sarah Palin’s lies could sink our hopes for a clean energy economy,” the email continued, calling on members to chip in money to “fight back against Palin’s false claims.”

Palin’s political action committee raised some $200,000 for her in the ten days after she resigned as governor of Alaska. MoveOn’s claim of $100,000 in one day means her attacks on Obama’s cap and trade bill raised half that amount — for her opponents — in one day.

Says MoveOn’s spokesman: “It is still pouring in — at a good rate.”

Update: I should have noted that while Palin’s supporters are unquestionably passionate, MoveOn’s haul demonstrates yet again how polarizing a figure Palin has become. It’s kind of amazing how motivated and energized her detractors are, particularly when it comes to pushing back against her high-profile claims on high-stakes questions like, you know, what to do to save the earth.

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Posted by Greg Sargent | 07/15/2009, 03:35 PM EST | Categories: climate change, fundraising

119 Responses

  1. Tena | July 15th, 2009 at 04:06 pm

    Yeeeeaaaahhh, well. I was slightly nonplussed that your paper gave her that space and that bully pulpit.

    to be perfectly honest about it.

  2. Greg Sargent | July 15th, 2009 at 04:19 pm

    Tena, you’re nothing if not honest. :)

  3. kelly | July 15th, 2009 at 04:25 pm

    wow…i luv this country…CHANGE is definately here to stay…..GOP please more Palin

  4. GenVar | July 15th, 2009 at 04:40 pm

    :….a MoveOn spokesman confirms to me.”
    “Says MoveOn’s spokesman:….”

    hmmm who is this spokesman ? why could you name him/her??
    just curious as to from whom you are quoting?
    please advise, as this is an incomplete journalism/reporting…

  5. jgrim | July 15th, 2009 at 04:44 pm

    When I saw that Palin op-ed, I knew then I was finished with the WaPo. I thought opinion writers were required to have at best minimal credentials, background knowledge, or extensive experiences on national topics. Insulting to readers that they would promote her as an expert on anything.

  6. jeni | July 15th, 2009 at 04:56 pm

    Exactly what is this money to be used for? A new wardrobe? To pay off mounting lawsuits? To pay off Levi Johnston? Since (Barack is able to raise $1Million dollsrs in one day seems like Sarah is speaking to a different decade(s).)

  7. Judith | July 15th, 2009 at 05:00 pm

    Do any of you really believe she wrote that article? really?

  8. blaising | July 15th, 2009 at 05:00 pm

    Where do I sign up?

  9. jeni | July 15th, 2009 at 05:01 pm

    Oops – this is what was supposed to be posted!

    Exactly what is this money to be used for? A new wardrobe? To pay off mounting lawsuits? To pay off Levi Johnston? To purchase a new fishing boat?
    (Since Barack is able to raise $1 Million dollars in one day it seems like Sarah is speaking to an entirely different decade(s). Truly her philosophy and rhetoric belongs to the days of witch hunts, burning at the stake, religious control, etc., etc..)

  10. David Corna | July 15th, 2009 at 05:10 pm

    It is a sad day when only persons like Sarah Palan are given access to the press and scientists who wish to present legitimate criticism of the unproven hypothesis of anthropogenic global warming cannot find a public forum. Why do we limit debate in a country where public debate is supposed to be the self correcting mechanism?

  11. foster | July 15th, 2009 at 05:13 pm

    I wrote to the Post’s Ombudsman and asked if the Post really thought this was an op ed written by Palin or a ghost. After the Salon fiasco one would have thought the Post would have been careful. But the Neocons control the op-ed pages and fact free op-ed are de rigeur. Sorry, Greg, not your fault, but it is becoming impossible to take the Post seriously in the op ed section.

  12. Chuck | July 15th, 2009 at 05:14 pm

    I absolutely believe that op ed was written by Ramble Spice. It was incoherent. Neglected to mention the initial problem and attacked without offering a sensible solution. If fossil fuels are what got us to where we are right now and you don’t believe that global warming is man made, how in the world could more drilling and more coal possibly solve the problem that you refuse to acknowledge needs to be fixed? It’s like turning in an algebra test and not only getting the wrong answer but not even showing your work. The teacher can’t even begin to tell you where you went wrong because they have no clue how you arrived at your answer.

  13. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 05:29 pm

    Chuck, the only thing rambling and incoherent is your post. Nice try at completetly thought through post though.Better luck next time.Of course in your post structural world you can ignore her words and tease out whatever nonsense you wish, objectivity be damned.Since it is your narrative and not hers you see on the paper you can respond in an incoherent manner and believe it to be perfectly valid, however nonsensical.

  14. Sam Again | July 15th, 2009 at 05:32 pm

    GenVar | July 15th, 2009 at 04:40 pm
    “Says MoveOn’s spokesman:….”
    hmmm who is this spokesman ? why could you name him/her??
    please advise, as this is an incomplete journalism/reporting…

    GenVar… YOU’RE FUNNY.

    This is a perfectly respectable journalistic approach as it quotes a “Move On spokesman.” Someone representing Move On. It’s NOT “anonymous” just because you don’t know the name of Move On’s spokesman. Move On will be held responsible for any misstatement. Get a grip on what’s offensive about naming names and what isn’t. THIS isn’t.

  15. Jean Cluade | July 15th, 2009 at 05:36 pm

    Palin is like a pebble in my shoes…all form but no substance.

    Iam signing on to moveon…..

  16. SchrodingersCat | July 15th, 2009 at 05:37 pm

    Chuck: Nah. As Ezra Klein pointed out there weren’t enough randomly capitalized letters and exclamation points for it to have been written by this misunderestimated savant.

    Although who knows? The wingnuts keep telling me that now that she doesn’t have a job and has all this extra time to contemplate all of the issues facing the world this will be her own version of Einstein’s miracle year.

  17. Jeff in Richmond VA | July 15th, 2009 at 05:39 pm

    Palin is the gift that keeps on giving……to late night hosts, MSNBC, comedians, bloggers, and anyone else who knows what an airhead she really is.

    Sarah in 2012???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

  18. DaveCohen | July 15th, 2009 at 05:45 pm

    Climate change is real, but solutions proposed so far won’t help much so everyone can be unhappy depending on your position.
    Being 79 years of age I will not be around to verify my predictions.

  19. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 05:46 pm

    Sam again, you are wrong

    This unnamed source stuff has gotten completely out of hand. It is rampant,lazy,and is mainly to give the writer that self agrandizing,” see, I’m like Woodward and Bernstien with my deepthroat” ego boost. I counted over eleven unnamed sources in one article by a ” respected blogger ” just today. Without any factual data to back it up that kind of intellectual non curiosity and laziness is nothing mor than rumor mongering and hack reporting.

  20. Dennis | July 15th, 2009 at 05:47 pm

    Thanks for this article. I’m behind on my e-mail and missed this. I will be logging on now to give $1000. Sarah Palin is the most dangerous demagogue since Adolf Hitler. As I read somewhere else (I think at wsj.com), she is the Joerg Haider of America (Joerge Haider was the Austrian neo-fascist who was killed in a car crash last October).

  21. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 05:51 pm

    Dave,

    You won’t be around due to the new ice age predictions that are sure to come out once the ecopocalypse crowd can tie the use of fossil fuels to global cooling.

  22. capricorn1 | July 15th, 2009 at 05:55 pm

    Sarah Palin put her electronic signature on an op-ed that was composed by a ghost writer. I pretty much knew on the second sentence that these were not a formulation of her thoughts. While the op-ed was factually innacurate it was fluid…something Palin is definitly NOT

  23. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 05:55 pm

    Dennis,
    You win. There is a formula for how long political dicussions can go on before some bonehead brings up Hitler or the Nazis.Your prize is to give up $1000 to an organization who’s needs are already met by a certain billionaire.I’m sure he thanks you for saving him the coin.

  24. loretta in Odessa, Tx | July 15th, 2009 at 05:58 pm

    What does it matter of how the money is to be spent,
    Bohema spent his money that he raised to by Michele thosse $600.00 tennis shoes, that $9000.00 garb she had on and paid Barnie Fifthe (Frank) off for his contribution of duping the American people on the supposedly called bail out, if the truth is known his mother-in-law was given some under the table too!

  25. Dennis | July 15th, 2009 at 06:04 pm

    Ed: I know this may be difficult for you to believe, but sometimes there is only one analogy which is appropriate.

    This, my friend, is EXACTLY one of those instances.

    P.S. I lost family in Germany in 1943 – they were deported to Poland. So I know EXACTLY of what I speak.

    You all have a GREAT day now.

    Cheers,
    Dennis

  26. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 06:05 pm

    Capricorn,
    It is well known that Obama didn’t write his books by himself and there is considerable evidence Bill Ayers ghost wrote “dreams of My Father.It’s also obvious that he has little input in his speeches due to his generally being lost and decidedly not fluid when TOTUS goes on strike. They told me if I voted for McCain I would get a gaffe prone VP idiot who would embarrass the nation. They were right, we have wacky Uncle Joe.

  27. MAJII | July 15th, 2009 at 06:10 pm

    Loretta, ummm, Michelle Obama buys her own shoes, clothes, and handbags with her own money. The law prohibits the use of the bailout money in the way you describe in your post. Remember those 2 NY Times Bestsellers? They made millions, and people are still buying them, so Michelle, BO, grandma, and the kids don’t need no stinking bailout money to buy what they want/need. Heck, I teach school and I buy designer shoes, clothes, and handbags with cash, no charging. If one manages one’s resources, instead of vice versa, one can buy some of the things one wants.

  28. Josh Sidman | July 15th, 2009 at 06:11 pm

    I’ve got to say that MoveOn and the author of this article are playing right into Palin’s hands. Most sane Americans realize she is nothing but a fluke and a political light-weight, but every article that reports on her activities and engages with her adds to the sense that she has some kind of political legitimacy. The best course of action would be to completely ignore her and let her fade into the far-right background.

  29. loretta in Odessa, Tx | July 15th, 2009 at 06:16 pm

    Sarah Palin has more brain power in her little finger than Bohema has in his whole hand. Global warming has infected Bohema’s brain. He needs a brain transplant he has some kind of disease, could it be a Muslim disease he caught from Iran or from Birth? Sarah Palin has been more honest with the American People than Bohema has been even BEFORE his election! When the heat starts getting hot, he starts coming out with some kind of hoax that Bohema and Polsi dreamed up to throw all of you Democrats off of what is the real truth! You people have no clue! COME DOWN TO EARTH AGAIN

  30. Dennis | July 15th, 2009 at 06:16 pm

    Josh Sidman: the threat is no less than 1930s Germany. Look away if you must, but I for one will not.

  31. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 06:16 pm

    So your loss gives you the right to throw those words around indicriminately.Does victim status (real in your instance) give you the right to paint some one with thos words.You give no examples of demagoguery or the danger if she is a demagogue. As the liberal polls continually point out she has little broad support and therefore I don’t see the danger.You either are admitting the polls are biased or admitting your labeling her as dangerous is a lie. After all Hitler was elected with broad support which gave him the power to start his evil. But living in an echo chamber is comfortable so don’t venture too far away from MSNBC.

  32. Jen | July 15th, 2009 at 06:17 pm

    That figure is now up to $108k and I just added my contribution. And no, I don’t think Palin wrote the op-ed all by herself.

  33. GenVar | July 15th, 2009 at 06:17 pm

    “Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 05:46 pm

    Sam again, you are wrongs MoveOn’s spokesman:….””

    Ed you are so correct!!

    Responsible reporting of the facts, some of us still care. If this is an Opinion post then yes I am out of line, sorry… have a great day!

  34. Dennis | July 15th, 2009 at 06:23 pm

    Hey Ed, I’m actually an independent who voted for GHWB in 1988 and kept an open mind until SOMEONE started yelling about “real America” and assorted calumnies on the campaign trail last fall. And then there are those Youtube videos of her campaign rallies. Horrific.

    Remember who that was?

  35. Jen | July 15th, 2009 at 06:27 pm

    Loretta – Please take some time off from posting and maybe take advantage of the funding the current administration is putting into education.

  36. Sean Micheal | July 15th, 2009 at 06:29 pm

    GenVar:

    I know that, as a moron, you are in good company in this comments section, but you are completely, utterly wrong. A spokesperson is not an “anonymous source” by any definition. A reporter calls up an organization or a person’s office or representation, and asks questions. This is true /anywhere/, in /any/ field. You talk to a publicist or another person to get the “company line” on something. Greg probably doesn’t even know their name, because he spoke to him/her for a few minutes.

    This is a huge part of researching any story, and for a quickie like this one, there’s very little other research that’s needed to be done (you might call Palin’s office for a reaction, but they probably don’t care).

    There is nothing to criticize here, it has nothing to do with “wanting to be Woodward and Bernstein”, it has to do with how companies and organizations communicate with reporters (or the public, for that matter — you could probably call up MoveOn and talk to the exact same employees, although naturally they are more likely to talk members of the press. Seriously, this is not something that’s even a little controversial.

    Don’t be a ******* idiot.

  37. loretta in Odessa, Tx | July 15th, 2009 at 06:34 pm

    MAJII, mmmmmmm, I am in accounting with a large company. I buy my clothes too. I do no charging. I own my home, I drive a Lincoln, I buy my own food and I buy what I want, too! I don’t live off the taxpayer $’s like Michelle, BOhema, Grandma and kids.
    So does Sarah Palin! Pelple need to leave Palin alone, she has resigned from office..You Democrats are so scared of her for some reason or another that you want to discredit her. Why does she scare you people so much are you afraid that she is going to run for office again? As far as book writers and Best Sellers I’ll compare Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck to your guys anytime!

  38. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 06:35 pm

    Sort of like those anti war rallies encouraged by the dems and Move On featuring “death To Israel and stop the Jews signs along with You Tube Video of leftists sceaming about throwing counter protesters in the gas chambers.I don’t think any “real America” were yelling that stuff.And again even if I give you the demagogue label( which I don’t believe) you don’t address the dangerous issue. She either has limited support or the polls are dishonest. Or the polls are right and you are wrong about her being dangerous.

  39. Dennis | July 15th, 2009 at 06:38 pm

    Ed, maybe I do take it a bit personally. But most (MOST) people said it “couldn’t happen” in Germany.

    ANYONE is dangerous when they irresponsibly feed on and fuel the emotions of a crowd. Her words are on the record. Sarah Palin is dangerous.

  40. loretta in Odessa, Tx | July 15th, 2009 at 06:39 pm

    Jen, I’ve already finished my education and paid for it myself. I don’t need government hand outs! How about you? DO YOU NEED THE FUNDING?

  41. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 06:46 pm

    GEN VAR,
    unnamed spokesman and anonymous source basically accomplish the same purpose, somebody wasn’t willing to put thier name and credibility behind a statement,therefore there is no accountability for content. Why wasn’t the “spokesman” willing to have his name published? He didn’t want to be responsible. The reporter, if the story proves wrong can merely claim he was lied to i.e. no responsibility.So don’t you be a ******* idiot.Real company spokesman are identified in the stories that are written.

  42. jeni | July 15th, 2009 at 06:47 pm

    Loretta – you are very delusional in that you think Palin is more intellegent than Obama. Granted she is not entirely stupid – she is ignorant to the max. Perhaps you have the right make-up to apply for the position of nanny to that poor little boy who is being raised by ‘who knows’in the Palin camp.

    Oh yes and to the matter “Bohema spent his money that he raised to by Michele thosse $600.00 tennis shoes, that $9000.00 garb she had on and paid Barnie Fifthe (Frank) off for his contribution of duping the American people on the supposedly called bail out, if the truth is known his mother-in-law was given some under the table too!” Were YOU there to back up your spewsing. The RNC paid over $250,000 for Palin’s clothes and it seems to be something swept waaay under the table these days – making up your fairy tales is very childish also too don’tcha think. Ya betcha!

  43. EdgedInBlue | July 15th, 2009 at 06:50 pm

    I do believe this is the Palin story that has done me in. (well, the loretta from odessa comments anyway!) Her op-ed in WaPo, her quitting fit, her tweets… maybe if we ignore her, she’ll go away. I’m going to do my damdest!

  44. steve-annie | July 15th, 2009 at 06:56 pm

    Anyone taking bets that the op-ed was ghosted by a big energy lobbyist?

  45. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 07:01 pm

    Dennis, we will have to agree to disagree here, but I will leave you with one observation.The most most agregious crimes against Americans rights have been committed by Presidents who decidedly didn’t believe in limited gov’t. Abraham Lincoln, while the first Republican president surely had an expansive view of the federal gov’t,vis a vis the generally accepted views of states rights up until then.He notably suspended habeas corpus and threw editors of oppossing papers and Copperhead leaders in jail for long periods of time with no charges filed. And of course FDR.He spyed on U.S. citizens and of course created the internment camps for Japanese Americans.I would presently put Mr. Obama in the activist camp and Sarah Palin in the limited gov’t camp.

  46. Dennis | July 15th, 2009 at 07:03 pm

    Ed, if Obama is in the activist camp, then CERTAINLY George W. Bush belongs there as well.

    Later – the weather is too great to be inside anymore . . .

  47. Katy | July 15th, 2009 at 07:04 pm

    OK, Loretta. With your education, surely you won’t mind answering the questions that you brought up in your comment:
    Has science advanced to the point of brain transplants? This has not been reported. Where does one get the donor organ? Are pro-lifers for or against this?
    What exactly is a “Muslim disease?” Please cite examples.
    When was President Obama in Iran (I assume that’s who you are disrespectfully referring to as, inexplicably, “Bohema”).
    Why do you capitalize the words “Birth and People?”
    How does one catch a disease from “Birth?”
    You say, “when the heat starts getting hot.” When is heat ever cold?
    Who’s “Polsi?”
    What is “the real truth?”
    Thank you.

  48. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 07:13 pm

    Sorry GEN VAR I meant to ID SEAN MICHAEL who apparently thinks doing something like taking an hour ask them to fax or email just a modicum of documentation might be to much work for a Harvard trained “journalist”, but then the facts might get in the way of the “narrative”

  49. I M Bored | July 15th, 2009 at 07:17 pm

    Man, what a comment section. Shouldn’t all the right-winger’s be doing their Ricky Ricardo impressions, talking about “family values” (didn’t the great intellectual Dan Quayle coin that phrase) or I know, go back to the old favorite, the illegal aliens who now want to get OUT because of the Bush/Reagan legacy which will live on and on and on and on. Never forget.

    To me wasting my time with this comment is pretty stupid. But I have to admit that it’s fun watching the lady with the narcissistic personality disorder just fall deeper and deeper into that hole. I hope that the book that someone else writes for her bombs for Rupert, but all he really has to do is put a cute picture of her on the cover and it will sell. That pretty sums up the intelligence of most Republicans.

  50. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 07:50 pm

    Well I M Bored. It seems at any rate with the Obama deficits coming and the democrats blocking social security and medicare reform, and helping GWB pass the new prescription entitlement the best thing to do is prevent them from going home in wild hopes of a recovering economy so they can bail us out of the worlds biggest ponzi schemes.Then of course the narrative will be how cruel we are for doing so and it’s really somehow Reagans fault.

  51. Star | July 15th, 2009 at 07:53 pm

    Loretta is the typical Palin follower. An ignoramus. Obviously, since she claims to be educated, she is also a liar. Education is one thing that can’t be faked. Be proud to be a dope, Loretta. Palin is.

  52. sonny | July 15th, 2009 at 07:56 pm

    Sarah Palin is a LIAR,aLOUNGE LIZARD,and a LOSER.What more is there to say.She really is a nothing.CASE CLOSED.

  53. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 08:01 pm

    Star,
    ad hominems and name calling reveal more about the writer than the person written about.We can all read and decide the thought process and clarity of Lorettas arguments. Surely people most posters here are quite capable of analyzing her posts without your “help” I’m also guessing you know damned few Palin followers if any at all. But then you’ve probably been told about them by Keith O.Sorry just a little assumption on my part SIR

  54. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 08:02 pm

    I detect a gynophobe just entered the room.

  55. Judith | July 15th, 2009 at 08:15 pm

    Loretta, you are a texan, not an Alaskan. I lived there for 20 years and have seen SP many times. All that is said about her is true. Most Alaskans have no desire to have anything to do with her. She is pretty much a joke in the state. Sorry, you can ramble on about Palin but until you see the real person, you are just buying into the hype. And calling the president names is extremely disrespectful. Since the Dept of Education in Texas is attempting to change history by taking legitimate people out of the history books and replacing them with, in part, evangelists, seems extremely dishonest. It has made all the news so please don’t deny it.

  56. Linda | July 15th, 2009 at 08:20 pm

    Hey, give me that link, I want to add my part against uneducated idiot talking points.
    And her language…..hmmmmmmm
    did You ever heard anything like her mess about nothing? So – no way to analyze it – and no sense.
    i think , it’s time to check her mental condition.

  57. o | July 15th, 2009 at 09:10 pm

    Please run the ads
    Lets every american know that Sarah Palin oppose the cap and tax.
    Please do it!!!!!!!!!

  58. monakimona | July 15th, 2009 at 09:11 pm

    ok. I think linda has a point. Mental condition is something to be explored, as narcissim and sociopathy could be handy to describe a person who is so absorbed in self that they have no sense of anything else existing.
    Also…no one wants to touch this but…women in early menopause can produce downs syndrome babies, due to aging eggs. Could our favorite person here be perhaps entering this wonderful and natural change that all women go through somewhere in the 4th to 5th decade of their life?
    God help us if she thinks she could be president .

  59. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 09:24 pm

    WOW monakimona, and the lefties were outraged by the “time of the month” reference to Sotomayor and called them sexist, you double down and then some.But of course she’s not a “real women” because she’s conservative, except for her physiology and all those related functions.

  60. TSM | July 15th, 2009 at 09:27 pm

    Just like the imfamous Bridge to Nowhere, Palin was for a cap and tax before she was against it.

    From NBC’s Domenico Montanaros a follow up to our post yesterday on Palin running with McCain — who explicitly supported cap and trade — we went through the transcript of the Palin-Biden vice presidential debate and found the following:
    IFILL: We do need to keep within our two minutes. But I just wanted to ask you, do you support capping carbon emissions?
    PALIN: I do. I do. …

  61. monakimona | July 15th, 2009 at 09:32 pm

    you know ED, you have no idea of which I speak.
    women DO enter into something akin to teentime, when those lovely hormones stop coming.
    I said NO ONE is talking about this, and this is true.
    What’s this…Real Woman….a Real Woman goes thru ALL of the above changes and more.
    I understand you don’t know about this on a first hand basis, but some of us do.
    This Stressed-Out Ultra Striving Woman is not in her right mind. Sorry….she needs to stay home and Take Care of Her Children. End of Story.

  62. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 09:38 pm

    I guess so do Female Judges who may have severe pms that may span 2 weeks a month.These judges by your standard would be diqualified from serving.So by your standard any women who seeks critical office should undergo examination as to the severity of PMS and as to the likelyhood of entering menopause during office.You know maybe that explains Pelosis incoherence as of late, should she resign?

  63. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 09:55 pm

    The silence is deafening MONA

  64. Statistssuck | July 15th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Wow a whole 100k? That there is a story I tell you..I do not know which is a bigger joke, the story or the science behind global warming…both ran by total idiots!

  65. SchrodingersCat | July 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Loretta:

    Palin doesn’t live off of the taxpayers? Are you for real? She was paid PER DIEM to live in her own home and to commute back and forth to the state capital. Since you claim to be an “educated accountant” I’m assuming you know what “per diem” is. If not, perhaps you could use some of the tubes in the internets to look it up.

    You think Palin’s so honest? Here is just a small sampling of where she has been, without a doubt, caught lying (courtesty of Andrew Sullivan):

    “Palin lied when she claimed to have taken a voluntary pay cut as mayor; in fact, as councilmember she had voted against a raise for the mayor, but subsequent raises had taken effect by the time she was mayor.

    Palin lied when she denied that the Alaska Independence Party supports secession and denied that her husband had been a member; in fact, even the McCain campaign noted that the party’s very existence is based on secession and that Todd was a member for seven years.

    Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, “Thanks, but no thanks” to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.”

    If you’re interested in learning more (which I doubt since facts don’t appear to be your friend) you can find a whole list at http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/the-odd-lies-of-sarah-palin-a-roundup.html

    I understand that it’s unbelievably hot in Odessa this time of year – maybe you need to get inside some air conditioned place and lie down.

  66. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Statistssuck,
    The real stupid thing is that Soros will make sure Move On has enough money to do what he wants so the contributors just offset money one of the richest men in the world would have spent.

  67. SchrodingersCat | July 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Ed,

    Get back to us when Richard Mellon Scaiffe gets his $340 million back from:

    Acton Economic Research Foundation
    American Enterprise Institute
    American Spectator Educational Foundation,
    American Spectator Magazine
    Cato Institute
    Center for the Study of Popular Culture
    Citizens for Honest Government
    Federalist Society
    Federation for American Immigrant Reform
    Free Congress Foundation
    Foreign Policy Research Institute
    Hoover Institution
    Hudson Institute
    Independent Women’s Forum
    Institute for Justice
    Intercollegiate Studies Institute
    Judicial Watch
    Landmark Legal Foundation
    Media Research Center
    Manhattan Institute for Policy Research
    National Association of Scholars
    National Taxpayers Union Foundation
    NewsMax.com
    Pacific Legal Foundation
    Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy
    Patrick Henry Center for Individual Liberty
    Rutherford Institute
    Southeastern Legal Foundation, Inc.
    Washington Legal Foundation
    National Legal and Policy Center

  68. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Well schrodinger, if crazy cousin Andy, the Trig Truther , says it, it must be true. I reviewed many of his claims and cross checked with other on line sources and found most of his claims of lies to be Crazy Andys semantics gone wild.The heat may have gone to Lorettas head but most assuredly the AIDS dementia has long since settled in to Sullies.Better get a better source.

  69. Georgia in NC | July 15th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Ed, I think Peolsi would be post-menopausal…you know, the wise Crone stage of life….
    As for Palin, no one who wants to legislate to overturn Roe v Wade is about limited government. What you mean is she likes the limits you like, and you don’t agree with Obama’s limits.

  70. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    schrodinger
    But i’m not foolish enough to throw my money at well funded institutions becuse they sucker me with fundraising emails invoking Obamas lies. Which was the point of that post. So go ahead contribute. Send in a couple grand. We could call it stimulus.

  71. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    OK georgia, limited gov’t is all about Roe v Wade, you got me there. Never mind taking over the financial industry,two major auto manufacturers, attemting a takeover of the health care industry, attempting one of the greatest regulatory regimens in histiry in the cap and tax scheme.Bullying investors out of thier contract rights and on and on and just yesterday making thinly veiled threats to Arizona as retribution for a Senators public critism.Obama can’t be activist because he believes in Roe v Wade. That darn intrusive Palin.Oh by the way, did you hear the latest about Obamas science czar and his book endorsing eugenics, forced sterilization and abortion.No activism there.

  72. Statistssuck | July 15th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    EPA supresses information on “global warming” the UN takes a totally communistic approach to opposition to global warming and MoveON.org is a whole other joke. I am glad I quit drinking the cool aid last year, too bad the other sheep (or should I say lemmings?)won’t wake up.

  73. Statistssuck | July 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    It is also funny watching how closely all the sheep follow a book that is what 40 years old?

  74. jeni | July 15th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Who has to look up anyone’s site concerning the lies of Sarah Palin. Every time she opens her mouth she lies or as some might say ‘fabricates the truth’. I’ve watched her from day one – certainly long enough to know she would have been fired from any other job and would not have had the opportunity to be so chicken as to “quit”. She would have been fired and gone long before that!

  75. Ed | July 15th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Sure jeni, and alot of dems including THE ONE think Gov Jenny from the block is doing a great job in Michigan.I think Celtic Diva is missing her right hand. Better run off now, she isn’t very patient.

  76. Georgia in NC | July 16th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    hey Ed – you didn’t address the concept of Palin’s view of limited government, the point of my comment. She wants the government she wants just like Obama does and just like you do. The disagreement is the details.You don’t want financial regulatory controls, I don’t want Palin in my womb…. details.

  77. George Fossett | July 16th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    She didn’t write that article. It wasn’t in crayon.

  78. kittyonice | July 16th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Loretta from Odessa Texas is a blathering idiot who spits out make believe without regard for the truth, and clearly without adequate intelligence to pay mind even to the built-in spell check function in the comment box. As such it could be assumed that she doesn’t care about spelling, and being articulate anymore than she cares about being factual, or even close to accurate in her nonsensical ramblings. Well I guess it’s easy to understand her crush on Sarah Palin, who has, dare I say, proven herself to be the epitome of the backwards, ignorant citizen, and at times just plain stoopid, accidental public figurehead. Palin has shown only contempt for education, for the notion of being well informed and up to speed with world events. I doubt she would have ever given any foreign country a moments thought if not for the pressure from others in the Party to sound adequately cultured — problem is, you can’t create a culturally sensitive person from someone who had to check if Africa was a country or a continent full of different countries. Clearly this is not someone who pays any attention to world events outside of the USA, and just barely even outside of Alaska’s borders.

    BTW, I fully believe Sarah Palin wrote that WaPo Op-ed piece was written by her.I quote, “Many states have abundant coal, whose technology is continuously making it into a cleaner energy source”. ??! “Whose” technology? The state’s or the coal? This kind of grammatically-challenged sentence structure is exactly the sort of thing that makes most of her speeches almost completely incoherent. She uses casual-speak language in formal scenarios, thinking it makes her sound cute and accessible, but it doesn’t; it makes her sound inarticulate and uneducated. She stretches the truth and at times outright lies for the sake of trying to sound knowledgeable and informed, but it makes her seem disingenuous and, again, like a liar only concerned with whatever is most politically beneficial to her in whatever moment.

  79. AlaskaGirl | July 16th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Do you know what has been happening in Alaska, on Palin’s watch?

    The federal government has issued a moratorium expected to last four or five months. State officials estimate about 1,000 Alaskans will be affected.

    A particularly alarming finding concerns deaths of adults in the programs. In one 2 1/2 year stretch, 227 adults already getting services died while waiting for a nurse to reassess their needs. Another 27 died waiting for their initial assessment, to see if they qualified for help.

    No other state in the nation is under such a moratorium, according to a spokeswoman for the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.

    Notice of this happened a few weeks ago.. Hmmm? Same time Palin resigned.

  80. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    Georgia,
    it isn’t activist gov’t to extend the protection of life(the single most important function of gov’t) to human life in the womb no matter how insignificant. This was in fact the law of the land for almost 200 years.It was an activist judiciary that overturned those laws.In fact your womb is all ready regulated by most states in disallowing late term abortions. You see there is no new ground plowed just a different interpretation of when the protection of life comes into play.As a matter of fact I believe that protection extends to “unviable human life” in the case of the murder of a pregnant woman. So the claim that overturning Roe is about activist gov’t is false. It is about extending the protection of human life to where it was 30 years ago.The protection of life that is a basic function of gov’t.
    The rest of my post did apply to non traditional and questionable powers and uses of powers of gov’t not seen or rarely seen before. In other words activist.In fact if gov’t controls health care I could see where if a woman chooses to carry her baby she may be subject to gov’t nutritional mandates for the sake of reducing costs associated with malnourished babies in the womb. After all it’s in everybodies interest if we all share the cost.So lose the kid or the gov’t controls your womb for cost sake.Now that would be intervention!

  81. jeni | July 16th, 2009 at 01:08 am

    AlaskaGirl – I think you may be onto something significant. Stay tuned – there’s MORE!

    Ed – I didn’t understand your garbled “Sure jeni, and alot of dems including THE ONE think Gov Jenny from the block is doing a great job in Michigan.I think Celtic Diva is missing her right hand. Better run off now, she isn’t very patient.” No need to explain as I have read a few that are way too wierd.

  82. LB | July 16th, 2009 at 01:46 am

    Gosh Ed! You are so right! Let’s go back to making women the property of their husbands again too while we’re at it. No, wait…how about if we change the legal definition of personhood to include unfertilized eggs? Since every female human is born with all the eggs she’ll ever produce already in her ovaries, aborting a female fetus would actually be murdering hundreds of “people”, right? I mean, that would make sense, right?

  83. LB | July 16th, 2009 at 01:48 am

    PS everyone–

    I have figured out the deal with both Palin *and* Loretta: they are actually THE SAME PERSON.

  84. Frank Kaumo | July 16th, 2009 at 02:09 am

    Do not worry about Palin. They (the RNC) will NEVER run her again. She doesn’t do well with Independents. She might have, if we didn’t just finish with the most remarkably stupid person EVER to serve Oval Office EVER. She might have won if Kerry had won or Gore served two terms but that WILLFUL STUPIDITY wont be tolerated again, at least for 7 more years and then look to more Ron Paul-types to dominate as the “Ignorant South” types die out.

  85. Frank Kaumo | July 16th, 2009 at 03:29 am

    Hey Statistssuc, were you one of the same deniers of CFC’s ******** up our O-Zone. I don’t hear many of those old *** holes commenting on that any more either…because it was finaly proven you stupid puke!!(by a Texas-sized hole in our ****** o-zone) Where are all those Southern ******** to recant their testimony on that one you idiot! How many times do we have to be proven right to get an apoligy from your jack-assed leaders?!?! Quit being part of the problem and start being part of the solution you jerk.

  86. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 07:36 am

    Jeni
    The point you missed is that partisans will see what they want to see in a particular official offering incomplete context and rosy scenarios to bolster thier argument ala Sully.Shes watched Sarah from day one so of course she must be right because shes the most objective person in Alaska.The Celtic Diva reference is to tie her kind of rant of the lefties pointman on Palin hate and frivolous, made up complaints.Like ” everytime she opens her mouth she lies”. Now that truly is as believable as saying the MI Gov has done a great job while noticing our 17.5 percent unemployment rate.Can you tie that together or do you need some more dots to think it through.

  87. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 07:58 am

    LB

    You have been watching POTUS and his TOTUS speak too much.I can see your strawman a mile away.You know” Some people say we should make women chattel again, while others say there should be no restrictions at all. But I am the moderate here and really just say the status quo is just about right.”Straw men to the left of me, straw men to the right. Here I am, stuck in the middle with you”.So know LB.If you followed the discussion you would see we were attempting to debate activism. The strongest point at the end of that post suggests that strongest intrusion into womens reproductive live may come from those activists who will run gov’t health care.After all,in as much as can be done private health insures factor risky behaviors into premiums. But when the premiums are from taxes risky behaviors cannot be charged but rather can only be mandated away.In a not so perfect analogy there has been some talk of charging mountain climbers for thier rescue if they become trapped or distressed. Risky behavior=fees. But I can’t see charging families for unheathy infants if the mom smoked and ate twinkies all day.The gov’t solution would be to mandate “proper nutrition ” and develop some kind of penalty or punishment for non compliance.After all at that point it’s the “peoples money”that gets spent so the “people” have an interest in forcing good behavior.

  88. Aeneas | July 16th, 2009 at 08:10 am

    Natural gas is clean energy and Palin’s pipeline shows the direction we should be heading. More of that should be initiated and we need the skills and statesmanship of the likes of Palin to negotiate those deals.Her expertise in this area is proven by her accomplishments.

    Gloval Warming is negated by the coldest June in 100 years in Cleveland.I studied the data of the proponents of the Kyoto Protocol and found that they did not take into account carbon emission from forest fires, an instance of inadequate science.

  89. EdZ | July 16th, 2009 at 08:13 am

    You’all is just too funny. But I must say Loretta from Texas is the best! She/He must worship Hannity, O’Reily and who knows, it could really be Palin. I mean no one in their right mind would comment on a public blog and make a remark that Palin has some intelligence… lol. And type it with conviction!

  90. Linda (Celtic Diva) | July 16th, 2009 at 08:27 am

    Actually, Ed dear, I’m one of the more “attacked” blogs (by Palin herself) because I actually understand ethics, the ethics complaint process, how to file a FOI records request and as the only blogger doing that kind of activism up here, I publish everything I do for my readers so they understand.

    http://divasblueoasis.com/diary/717/latest-complaint-dismissal-highlights-palinvan-flein-unethical-spin-about-ethicspart-1

    I suspect if you read it, you might learn something.

    P.S. There is nothing “partisan” about holding Palin accountable, some of my biggest supporters are Republicans…we’re ALL sick of her up here.

  91. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 08:32 am

    Hey EdZ
    I think you are really Ed Schultz now aren’t ya?I don’t think Sarah is a Rhodes scholar but she cleaned Biden up in the debate. They told me if I voted for McCain I would get a gaffe prone idiot who would be an embarrassment to the nation as VP.They were right, we got wacky cousin Joe and his gaffe a day mouth!!!!

  92. atlantabraves | July 16th, 2009 at 08:41 am

    whats a shams is all the wasted time in this cite

  93. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 08:47 am

    Hey Diva, I’m wating to see the ethics charges filed against THE ONE for wearing the White Sox jacket during the ceremonial first pitch at the all star game. Certainly analogous to the Palin Arctic Cat jacket.Federal ethics rules clearly see that as a violation.I’m sure you would agree that ethics are important at the federal level too.I’ll be waiting to hear the results of your inquiry of campaign contributions by anyone in the White Sox organization.And exactly how many ethics charges have been dismissed? Even in baseball you’d be sent packing for that percentage.But then your role is really that of a pitcher sent in to purposely bean the batter.So go ahead and throw your last few at her, then you’ll just have to assume the role of stalker/papparazzi to go after her.But then i could be mistaken SIR , and you really are THE BEST MOST OBJECTIVE PERSON IN THE WORLD!! Throw a few Trig jokes back at me if you could, maybe something that include Obamas pedophile brother and Sully for good measure,OK babe!!!

  94. SchrodingersCat | July 16th, 2009 at 08:59 am

    Ed: You used the wacky cousin Joe comment earlier. How disappointing that you’re already out of original material.

    In addition, “she cleaned Biden up in the debate?” Are you in Odessa with Loretta? It’s pretty easy to get through a debate when you announce that you won’t be answering the questions that have been asked and then proceed to some memorized soliloquy while winking and acting like a high school prom queen. Hmm….I wonder how that would go over at my next scientific conference? I wonder how many of my colleagues would gush about how I knocked it out of the park.

    And since you obviously having issues with reading apprehension, you entirely missed my point about Richard Mellon Scaife and his support for right wing causes. My point was that I was tired of the hypocrisy on the right about George Soros. There are people throwing lots of money around on both sides of the political spectrum. Maybe your and (O’reilly’s) talking points about Move On and Soros would carry more weight if Soros owned a major media outlet…say like FOX News and the WSJ?

    So, Palin didn’t claim to be against the Bridge to Nowhere when in fact she really was? I guess they decided to drop the line from her stump speech for no good reason then? She also didn’t make dishonest claims about the AIP? And BTW, classy comment about Andrew Sullivan. I’d call you a pig, but that just somehow seems unfair to swine.

  95. GSJ | July 16th, 2009 at 09:17 am

    Ever notice the “bully” politics going on here? I’m absolutely amazed how both the Supreme Court nomination hearings and the latest Senate Health Care Bill carry the “I Am The Greatest” attitude. Gosh, people, this is a country trying to govern itself, not the Miss America Pagent, Jerry Springer show, or The View. Last time I looked, the right to free speech is still in the Constitution; so if you don’t like it, there’s no reason to start the “nanny-nanny-foo-foo” pre-school taunts. You’re all taking a page from Obamma — “I Know It All!” Last time I looked, he won the presidency by 52 percent of the electoral votes and actually stood in Chicago the night of the results and acknmowledged that he was going to work for the 48 percent of those that didn’t vote for him. If you really think this will happen, then take that lead, will you?

  96. atlantabraves | July 16th, 2009 at 09:19 am

    im sarah palin

  97. Stan | July 16th, 2009 at 09:19 am

    MoveOn will develop any lie they can to put down any person who disagrees with them. In addition, they will accept money from anyone, of any denomination, without limit. George Soros and others like him will spend whatever it takes to make their dreams of destroying America as a free country and a true Democracy. He has said that over and over, and has helped to almost destroy several economies already.
    Clean energy is a worthwhile goal, but not one that will be seen in the next 1 – 5 years in large amounts. “Clean coal” technology funding is limited to one company who is also a strong supporter of the Democrats and Obama, but nothing is done to allow more drilling for oil & gas domestically and on our own coastlines, thereby reducing the need for foreign oil. We import very little natural gas and produce most of our own, but even that production is being hampered by Congress and their ridiculous taxation policies. Palin and others like her would like to see America succeed, both Democrats and Republicans. Just remember, for the Dems who own major businesses, you will be hit by the same charges, taxes, theft of privacy, and enforced regulations as anyone else.

  98. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 09:36 am

    I don’t really care if Soros is the lefts sugar daddy or not. As long as people know where the funds are coming from they can make thier own judgement. My point was that Soros will not let Move On fail. So when you contribute I believe all you do is offset funding he would provide in your stead. So by all means give. Even though it might be better off saved for a congressional race next year.Also a debate isn’t a scientific conference, it is a popularity contest with a little policy thrown in.A flashy smile and a wink make her a prom queen? There you go again! You can do the research and find out the multitude of “innacuracies” that came out of the mouth of Joe in that debate.The bridge to nowhere,hang your hat on that one my friend.We’ll compare it to Murthas airport and the highway to nowhere still being built in West VA.Lefties seem to thrive on more hatefull material so I’ll try and get cruder and more obscene when talking about Joe.And BTW, by the lefts standard once Sully kept after the bogus Trig Truther bs he made himself a target by “dragging” that kid through his columns like a journalistic “prop”.Like they said to Sarah if you can’t take the heat…………..

  99. Jim | July 16th, 2009 at 09:42 am

    Do yourself a favor a look into climate change. If it is happening, it is not from man, but from the very nature of this world we live in. The earth goes through many climate changes and will continue to do so without our help. The cap and trade is nothing more than a money maker for Al Gore and his led by the nose followers. Please do you own research and you will see that Sarah knows what she’s talking about. 1000’s of scientists now agree with her also.

  100. Joe | July 16th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    When did climate change start? I’m guessing way back when the ice age stopped. We need another ice age in a bad way, perhaps the next generation of mankind will learn from our mistakes…aka, no LIBERALS! LMAO

  101. jeff | July 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am

    I have never seen such hateful,ignorant and bigoted people like I’ve seen on here. Makes me glad that I’m a libertarian. I read these comments by the so-called “party of the people” (democrats)and I’m appalled at the depths that you will stoop to insult and demean anything that you don’t agree with. Comparing Sarah Palin to Hitler? Come on. While Obama and his cronies are turning our country into a socialist nightmare. I wonder what your motivation is. Do you actually believe what our government tells you to be the truth? You had better put down what your smoking and take a look at what is really happening in this country. Unemployment..sky high,Crime..sky high(except in your gated community), Illegal immigration…uncontrollable,the dollar devalued,our money being taken to give to those who will not work. I guess you folks will just keep up living in your fantasy world until it comes crumbling down around you. You can’t even safely walk the streets anymore and you guys are worried about a Green powered automobile? Talk about priorities….
    I’ve read all your arguments and cannot believe that you folks have got your heads buried so far in the sand that you are actually believing out-right lies and using them as fact. To actually believe this garbage makes me wonder if the acid that you did as hippies didn’t destroy your brains.
    One question. Do you acually think that the government is capable of running this country anymore. With nothing but lies coming from both sides of the aisles and with the destruction of our economy falling on the shoulders of Republicans and Democrats alike (yes Barney Frank knew all about it).
    But yet you still won’t bring yourself to see the truth…We as a country are going downhill fast. Obama has tripled our national debt,and with the Bail out and stimulus has made rich folks even richer.(People who own banks aren’t poor you know). But that gets swept under the rug. As it stands we are on the brink of national disaster and all you guys can do is name call and complain about who said what..The real issues are overlooked by folks with rose colored glasses. I guess you folks just don’t get it..If we do not put our country back on track by allowing business owners to prosper and getting rid of the millions of illegals and quit giving billions for foriegn aid and stop such foolish things like national health care(a proven disaster)and getting rid of this bloated,ineffective,wasteful huge government thats taking away our personal freedoms then we are no longer the America that our fore fathers fought and died to create..
    Our grandparents would be ashamed of what we have let this country turn into.They would turn their backs to us and call us foolish,stupid people. And I for one agree with them.
    To all on here,Let me ask you one question. Do you believe this garbage that you spew? Do you relly look at your self as an American or is it just comfortable to go along with the rest of the sheeple?
    You had better wake up and smell the coffee before it’s too late.
    America is my home and I love my country,But if you think the power-elite care anything about you and your little emmission free car.You had better think again…

  102. jason | July 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am

    Here’s an automatic vote for Sarah in 2012…if she runs. But that’s not saying much as I’m an automatic vote for WHOEVER is the Repub candidate. I could never vote Dem after seeing the Dem true colors after this past election. GO GOP AND SARAH!!!!

  103. Rosetta | July 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Jeff has written the only comment worth reading. Other than that, the hate spewing, five-cents per post, Obamabots are out in force. And, for those of you who don’t know, Celtic Diva is a blogger paid by the DNC. All this “uneducated”, freedom loving, American can say is that you people must have miserable lives if all you can do is hate, hate, hate. Why don’t you do something constructive with your lives? As for me, I have to go to work, so I can contribute to your welfare checks. Make it a great day!

  104. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    Schrodinger,
    Forgive me for not noticing you said YOUR next scientific conference.I didn’t realize I was questioning one of the people who really matter. No wonder you scoff at us commoners who never got past our associates degree and journeymans school. I’ve only read Hayek, Mises, Sowell, and a little bit of Rand and even some Russell. But I never got into Chomsky,Foucalt, and Derrida. So I’m clearly not qualified to debate you.( that was actually a sort of ad hominen attacking the percieved attitude of elitism offered by Schrodinger. That is for those of us who don’t pick up on that stuff like the people who really matter)

  105. SchrodingersCat | July 16th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    Ed: after writing “there is considerable evidence Bill Ayers ghost wrote “dreams of My Father.” you are in no position to criticize Sullivan for being some sort of crazy conspiracy chaser.

    I’m sorry if you think that it’s too much to ask for a person who might possibly be in charge of running this country to take the task seriously enough not to wink at us and actually speak in coherent sentences. You thinks she’s up to the task of running this country? Why don’t we go ask the “Department of Law”? Perhaps they’ll have an opinion. Truth is, if Palin didn’t give McCain, Kristol, Barnes, and Lowry little starbursts, she’d probably be working at the local Walmart. Funny, though, the Palin-worshippers never mention those on the right who are just as critical of her. I wonder why that is?

    You think Lefties are more hateful? Let me know when Limbaugh and McCain apologize for all those Chelsea Clinton jokes.

    Murtha? Seriously? What makes you think I would defend him? Last I knew his airport wasn’t listed as one of the main reasons he was chosen for a national ticket.

    But, I hate to dissuade you….PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE vote for Palin for the 2012 nomination.

  106. kristy | July 16th, 2009 at 01:36 pm

    Why am I not surprised Loretta is from Texas?

    Good for MoveOn for raising so much money.

  107. Ed | July 16th, 2009 at 01:40 pm

    Schrodinger SIR I have read several analysis by composition analysts that do more than suggest similarities between Ayers Writing and ” Dreams of My Father” SIR. But if you don’t buy that thats fine.But anybody wearing a tin hat or rather smart fedora such as you must can see the mania in Sullys mind as to the Trig Truther spiel.
    Obama doesn’t wink at us , instead he invites the press to photo op him so he can show us his “magnificent chest”.I don’t think shes up to the task of running the country yet but she couldn’t be any less prepared than Joe Biden.Joe has spent how many years in elected office and still can’t be rational, consistant, and coherent for any prolonged period.This just shows an inability to learn and absorb rational thought.I think as wrong headed as Obama is I rather find the thought of Biden a heart beat away as scary as it gets.
    Once again you also displayed your rather large self important image and elitism by suggesting that Walmart employees are somewhat less than the rest of us.
    And lets compare 14 year old ridicule about appearance to present day attacks steeped in sexual mysogony and ridicule of a Down Syndrome afflicted baby. Now theres moral equivalance.Sarah probably wishes they would just call Bristol and Piper ugly. I seem to remember a few months back when rumors started circling about Bidens daughter and some photos of drug use. My observation was that on the blogs I visit as part of the VRWC the rule was “don’t go there”.I don’t know if it was true or not but the fact was his daughter was off limits.
    There is also plenty of back and forth about Palin on right wing blogs.Those discussions generally don’t include the sexist mysogyny, ad hominems, and unsubstantiated rumors that the left trots out.
    I don’t think she’s running in 2012 or even 2016. But she will do a good job of fundraising and activating the base to take congress back in the next two elections.You see I don’t think this economy is going anywhere and it is the dems who are going to take it on the chin for that in the next election.
    So I bid you adieu my elitist commenting foe of the obvious superior intellect because he attends scientific conferences and thinks Walmart employees are stupid or something.Have a nice day

  108. chefp | July 16th, 2009 at 01:56 pm

    Wow the level of misinformation in some of these user comments is appalling. So much hate, so many conspiracy theories with no evidence to back them.

    Rest assured, if Palin does run in 2012, it will be for the good of the country because it will guarantee a victory for her opponent. God Bless America! :P

  109. Aimleft | July 16th, 2009 at 03:06 pm

    Wow, Ed, the self-appointed defender of everything Sarah and everyone ignorant enough to not see right through her folksy little act.

    Your comments have been really fun to follow and your enormous ego a little hard to swallow – but equally entertaining.

    As for the fella on here who thinks a “record cold June” is evidence that global warming does not exist – more proof of the willful ignorance so rampant these days, especially on the right. (Where they got “right” from, I’ll never know.)

    Global warming is not about the weather at any given time. This is “climate” change, honey. Not “weather” change. The Weather Channel or your local news can talk about the weather and record cold or record heat, rain, etc. That’s not what climate change is about and before you go making seriously uninformed comments on here, you might consider arming yourself with a few facts or at least not making claims that show you have no idea what the problem is and why so many of us are concerned.

  110. Linda (Celtic Diva) | July 16th, 2009 at 03:21 pm

    Ed:

    Federal Ethics 101 just for you–Obama is in the clear because:

    1) Preferential treatment = official acts as President granting preferential treatment. Last I checked, throwing out the first ball isn’t an official act of his office.

    2) Preferential treatment = commercial endorsement. Being a fan of a sports team is NOT a commercial endorsement. I believe there is even case law out there specifying that.

    3) Preferential treatment = influence if government contracts are involved.

    I am not aware that the sports organization does any contracting with the federal government

    Regarding his wearing the coat…

    Unlike Sarah Palin, the President does not receive any income from the team nor does any family member. The President also (to my knowledge) does not own any stock in the team.

    Regarding the coat as a gift…if it is a gift…

    Restrictions depend on 1) How much it costs, 2) who gave it to him. If it was a government contractor, he can’t accept. If it was a government employee, the cutoff is much lower for him not be able to accept. If it was a family member or friend (or a government employee whose friendship supercede’s the work relationship) he’s good.

    Seriously, I was a Fed for 15 years…you’re going to argue Federal ethics with me?

  111. Marisa | July 16th, 2009 at 03:32 pm

    Sarah Palin is a joke – unfortunately, not a very funny one. I hope I live to see/hear the LAST of her – I wish she’d just sink into the Alaska wilderness and live her life without the rest of us ever again having to hear about any portion of it.

  112. Kimber | July 16th, 2009 at 03:57 pm

    When I found out Move On was raising money against Palin, I didn’t wait for them to contact me, I went to them.
    Gave $25 – I hope they use it to buy a ball gag; every time I hear that whinny, inarticulate, defensive piece of work I have a television Tourette’s attack.

  113. Langford | July 16th, 2009 at 04:22 pm

    Palin is just a distraction. She has a bit of charisma, but she is a lightning rod. Whether or not she believes her own outrageous statements doesn’t matter. What matters is the fact that she is drawing attention away from the healthcare debate and the fact that she serves to make other ultra-conservatives seem less extreme and ridiculous.

    I fully support Obama, as I think he is our best chance in this contaminated post-Bush world. He clearly wants to improve the lives of everyone in this country (and the world for that matter). I would like it if he were MORE radical, but I appreciate that he is trying to actually get something done. I understand. That’s a radical concept for a politician.

  114. Langford | July 16th, 2009 at 04:34 pm

    Oh, by the way- Just a reminder that everyone in Texas is not conservative. And that **** about the “proven disaster” of socialised medicine? It’s just not true. I lived in Australia for six years. The system actually works well. People don’t live in fear all the time. The insurance and pharmaceutical companies just want more free money and are clearly responsible for the anti-Universal healthcare propaganda.

  115. Jon Goodfellow | July 16th, 2009 at 09:01 pm

    Palin is what you would expect to as an ex-beauty queen coming out of Wasilla, Alaska. I lived in the next valley over- Matanuska Valley, Palmer, AK back when she was young. That was settled during the Great Depression by good Wisconsin-type Scandanavian farmer that valued the land and acted as stewards. Wasilla grew with the johnny-come-lately southerners that came with the oil boom days of the late 70s-early 80s. Basically a bunch of speculators who tried to cash in on the land speculation surrounding a proposed capitol move from Juneau during that period. Never happened, but they are the typical land despoilers into strip mining, dirty placer operations, and anything that wrecks the Alaskan hunting and fishing habitats. So recognizing that climate change is happening and requires adjustment on their part is impossible given that world-view. She is simply willful, venal, and bad news on any policy level. Give me the real honest old-time conservatives from New Hampshire, not the southern villians.

  116. Zman | July 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    The problem is that persons like Loretta vote. I’ll bet she can’t point to Afghanistan on a world map. I would rather have a benevolent dictator than persons like her voting for our leadership.

  117. MS. | July 20th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PASS THIS ON TO EVERY BODY YOU KNOW IN THE WORLD
    (face book — my space – every way you can post this do so PLEASE)

    THE SILENT BOYCOTT OF FOX NEWS

    EVERY PRODUCT AND SERVICE YOU SEE OR VIEW OR HEAR ON FOX NEWS – WE ARE ASKING YOU TO MAKE A MENTAL NOTE ( N O T ) TO BUY OR PURCHASE THESE PRODUCTS OR SERVICES

    UNTIL

    FOX NEWS LETS GO OF ALL THE NEWS CASTERS THEY PRESENTLY HAVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE AND CHANGE THE WAY THEY REPORT THE NEWS,

    NO SIDE COMMENTS — NO RAISED EYEBROWS — NO FACIAL EXPRESSION — NO INTERRUPTIONS WHILE GUESS ARE TALKING, — AND ANY WHERE THESE REPORTERS SHOW UP ON ANY OTHER NETWORK DO THE SAME,

    MAKE A MENTAL NOTE — DO — NOT — BUY — ANY —– PRODUCTS —– OR — – SERVICES —– WHERE EVER YOU SEE THESE REPORTS, OR THIS TYPE OF NEWS REPORTING -

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    JUST PLAN AND SIMPLY REPORT THE NEWS THE FACTS AND NOTHING BUT THE FACTS

    WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO DO THIS AS HAS BEEN SHOWN BY PRESIDENT OBAMA BEING ELECTED IN THE UNTIED STATES
    we are the WORLD
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  118. DemocratAgainstCommunism | July 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    MoveOn is nothing more than a bunch of communist thugs, and the biggest liars. They will say or do anything for power, and as a democrat I will vote against any candidate endorsed by them. Bottom line the communists are afraid of Palin because she goes against the republican stereotype. Funny thing is she’s more like the democrat stereotype I grow up on, just a blue jean wearing, hard working American girl. She gets into politics not to criticize the other side, but to clean up the corruption she sees in her own party, boy I’d love to see a democrat do that. When Fannie mae and Freddie mac failed Dobbs and Frank is right in the middle of it, but no investigation to determine if it was corruption or incompetence. That clown with the 90 thousand dollars in his freezer hasn’t been required to explain it. If they were republicans the outcry for investigations and for them to resign would be deafening. Funny that democrat hold republicans to a very high standard, too bad we don’t expect the same from our own party. The democrats have become the elitists, with their ivory league degrees, $3000 suites, not to mention their incredible how dare you question me arrogance and thirst for power. I will agree with Obama on one thing, it is time for a change, it’s time for the democratic party to regain it’s sanity and common sense.

  119. Nick saiz | January 29th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    That

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