Van Hollen Memo Reassures Jittery Dems: We Face “Headwind,” But 2010 Will Not Be 1994
In a sign that the Dem leadership recognizes that Dems need a serious morale boost heading into 2010, the top Democrat in charge of winning House races has distributed a private memo to Dems on the Hill making an expansive historical argument that Democrats are unlikely to receive a drubbing similar to 1994.
In the memo, which was sent over by a source, DCCC chief Chris Van Hollen acknowledges recent GOP fundraising successes and is blunt about the possibility of serious Dem losses.
“History shows that we can do everything right and still lose seats,” Van Hollen writes. “There is no doubt that this will be a very competitive cycle…we face a headwind.”
But Van Hollen also argues that for a variety of reasons — the dismal state of the Republican brand, the lingering Bush hangover — 2010 won’t shape up as another 1994, and gives Dems a series of talking points for making that:
* The Republican landslide in 1994 was in part the result of large numbers of Democratic congressional retirements;
* During the 1994 cycle, Democrats had not been aggressively recruited to run in Republican seats. This cycle, we have put 20 Republican seats into play;
* The Republican brand in 1994 was becoming stronger, not weaker like it is today;
* Congressional Democrats now represent every part of the country; unlike 1994 our majority doesn’t depend on a single region;
* Unlike 1994, voters still remember the disastrous consequences of the George W. Bush
and the Republican Congress’ policies; and,* Democrats were taken by surprise in the closing months of the 1993-1994 election. This cycle we have been planning for tough races since January and no incumbent should be caught off guard.
The memo is a reminder that the health care wars and cocky GOP predictions of a resurgence have left some Congressional Dems badly spooked and in serious need of a pep talk.
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Mr. Sargent:
“In the memo, which was sent over by a source, DCCC chief Chris Van Hollen acknowledges recent GOP fundraising successes and is blunt about the possibility of serious Dem losses.
“History shows that we can do everything right and still lose seats,” Van Hollen writes. “There is no doubt that this will be a very competitive cycle…we face a headwind.”
Isn’t Van Hollen the same source for the 2 million DC TEA Party attendees memo?
Ho-kay!
“have left some Congressional Dems badly spooked”.
yeah, what else is new ?
“In a sign that the Dem leadership recognizes that Dems need a serious morale boost heading into 2010…”
…like one you’d get from passing a robust public option.
Don’t forget Rush’s tail wing either.
Pablum for Moonbats:
“* The Republican landslide in 1994 was in part the result of large numbers of Democratic congressional retirements;”
Yep…why spend the campaign money when you know you’re going to get clobbered anyway when you can retire and keep the dough?
“* During the 1994 cycle, Democrats had not been aggressively recruited to run in Republican seats. This cycle, we have put 20 Republican seats into play;”
Woo-hoo! 20 GOP seats in play! But…how many Dem seats are up for grabs?
…crickets…
“* The Republican brand in 1994 was becoming stronger, not weaker like it is today;”
And WHY was the GOP brand getting stronger? Slick Willie’s agenda! Of course also it isn’t mentioned that brand strength is a relative phenomenon. The Dem brand is tied to Obama’s approval, just like it was with Slick Willie’s, and Obamapproval is sinking faster than any measured since…Slick Willie.
“* Congressional Democrats now represent every part of the country; unlike 1994 our majority doesn’t depend on a single region;”
Translated from Newspeak: “Freshman Congressmen from formerly Red districts”…equals vulnerable.
“* Unlike 1994, voters still remember the disastrous consequences of the George W. Bush
and the Republican Congress’ policies; and,”
Yep, sure do. When folks had jobs, owned their own homes, and their 401ks had value,(at least on paper).
It was a “Golden Age”.
“* Democrats were taken by surprise in the closing months of the 1993-1994 election. This cycle we have been planning for tough races since January and no incumbent should be caught off guard.”
Hogwash. Te Dems knew they’d take a licking in 1994, what was surprising was how badly they got hammered.
DNCC has been planning for a tough election cycle, eh?
By passing Pelosi’s Porkulus, Cap n’ Tax, and Socialist Utopiacare, huh? All those are really going to get mileage in those formerly Red/lately Blue districts.
SOme planning.
Bilge, just so you know, aside from being I-N-S-A-N-E, your posts are unreadable.
Ethan:
“Bilge, just so you know, aside from being I-N-S-A-N-E, your posts are unreadable.”
LOL!
Thanks for reminding me to add an unwritten postscript to my interpretation of Van Hollen’s memo:
NO more ACORN!
Ouch!…this ‘un’s gonna HURT!
Bilge, I’m with Ethan on this… and did you pay for an argument?
Will the GOP pick up seats in 2010? Probably. Historically, that is the pattern. Will it be a repeat of 1994? Ha! You wish. Given the conservatives current zeal to nominate far right extremists to ensure ideological purity, they keep backing people so extreme as to be out of touch with the rest of America… Same thing will happen in 2012. Sad fact of the GOP these days, in order to secure the nomination they have to run so far to the right that they leave the rest of America in the rear-view.
And for bilge, sbj, qb, et al…
Check out this CNN post about Roberta McCain (John’s mother). She fell and was injured. Look at the comments, just look at the empathy on the Left for this woman and compare that to posts made by people on the Right:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/23/sen-mccains-mother-hospitalized-in-portugal/#comments
Dem posters:
* Hope she gets better. I don’t agree with her son nor any of his principals/policies. None the less, let’s wish her a speedy recovery.
* I’m a staunch Democrat, but all politics aside, I’m very sorry to hear this news and hope that Sen. McCain’s mother gets well soon. Any injury to a 97-year-old is always scary. Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery!
* From a Liberal Democrat – GET WELL SOON…
* Coming from a democrat, I pray that God bless her with a speedy recover
* I know we all wish her the best (even if she is a Repubican).
* don’t care for your son’s politics, but I hope you get well soon … he, your son, is quite a hero to our nation however
* It does’nt matter what party you belong to, this is someone’s mom, in this case McCain’s. I wish her a speedy recovery.
Republican Posters:
* No wonder McCain is against the health care reform scam – he doesn’t want Pelosi pulling the plug on his mom.
* I wish her and the whole McCain family all the best, as I would for anyone regardless of their poltiics. … Sad thing is that a majority of the people who voted for Barak Obama, liebral Democrats, wish for horrible things to happen to not just Republicans, but their whole entire families as well. Countless liberals have admitted their desire to see harm inflicted to the Palin and Cheney family, this shows you that they would be in full support of rounding up conservatives in this country and having them sent to detainment camps, so taking away our rights, freedoms, and wealth is completely supported by a majority of Americans who call themselves Democrats. I’d love to know what is so tolerant about that?
As I said in another thread, the Republican ideology is a mental illness.
I believe I agree with almost everything the gentleman writes.
If there was a way to vote for “None of the Above” – s/he’d win in a landslide!
@Ethan: “And for bilge, sbj, qb, et al…”
Thanks for the pointless post! How many times do people need to make the point that comments posted on blogs say nothing larger about either the blog or the party? ‘Tis a silly game you play…
Ethan, me thinks, scott c “progressively evolved” into qb and then into bilge. One thing that gives them away – their continued stupidity and racism.
Speaking of racism, sbj, whatevah happened to that lawsuit you promised me ?
“whatevah happened to that lawsuit you promised me?”
Umm, lawsuit I promised you?
Jen:
“Will it be a repeat of 1994? Ha! You wish.”
No, I don;t think so, and here’s why…have you not stopped to ask yourself what the big rush is about passing the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda?
I mean really. We need Carbon Cap n’ Tax NOW? We have to save the Earth TODAY! Puh-leeze.
Likewise with HCR…why rush at it with this “all or nothing” PO approach?
It’s because the Dems know that this Liberal Spend-a-thon comes to a screeching halt in January of 2011. So that’s why they’re hittin’ it like kids at their parents’ liquor cabinet when Mom and Dad are away for the weekend.
“Given the conservatives current zeal to nominate far right extremists to ensure ideological purity, they keep backing people so extreme as to be out of touch with the rest of America”
What is this? Politics as a Hall and Oates song? Who is out of touch, here?
Look, Obama won against a cadidate who was soundly rejected by the GOP Conservative base, and who was dragging around the heritage of “W”’s Administration, and yet despite this, he was only able to grab what…53% to McCain’s 46%, (a balloted difference of about 9.5 million votes).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008
Keep telling yourself that WE are the ones out of touch.
Some posters on this site are cognizant of the purge going on in the GOP now.
Guess what happens when we field some candidates who energize the conservative base?
It ain’t going to be pretty for you.
“Thanks for the pointless post!”
Right. Empathy and human kindness are “pointless” to the Right.
That was precisely my point.
sbj, do your own homework.
Do not be too sure that Republicans will pick up many seats in 2010
Since they are the Party that created the economic meltdown, and the massive recession and loss of ten million jobs, who is it that is going to rush to let the Republicans do more of the same?
All Democrats have to do, is to keep reminding people who actually destroyed their lives, and we will retain most if not all of our seats.
Stop with all the negative expectations. Get of your arses, and do something positive by reminding the voters, over and over, and over, and over, through election day, which Party created the mess, just like they did, under Hoover, and which Party always tries to restore the Working Class.
Enough with l defeatist attitudes, and willinness to settles for losses in 2010.
We do not have to, if you remind the working classes, who stuck it to them over and over, and who always tries to restore them.
Edit:
Enough with defeatist attitudes, and willingness to settles for losses in 2010.
“sbj, do your own homework.”
No need, amk. I never promised you a lawsuit.
“Empathy and human kindness are “pointless” to the Right.”
Ethan wrote that about kindness – Ethan!
sbj, what chickening out all ready ? True to form. A repug chickenhawk.
“Empathy and human kindness are “pointless” to the Right.”
Hilarious that you don’t deny that you lack the basic brain function that enables human beings to form a society.
I hereby deny that I lack the basic brain function that enables human beings to form a society.
“Chickening out all ready?”
Does not compute. I know that I did not threaten you (or anyone) with a lawsuit. I made the point that I was being libeled, and I made the point that blog operators were immune from libel lawsuits but that individual commentors were not.
Any else noticing sbj, bildge and the other wingers carry on with the same hostility towards Greg that the Fox Propaganda Network displays to other a-political networks and organizations when they refuse to engage in propaganda designed to tear down the Obama administration?
“I hereby deny that I lack the basic brain function that enables human beings to form a society.”
I’ll believe it when I see it.
So far, everything you have written leads me to believe that you are a liar who has no empathy towards anyone who doesn’t preach hate.
Republicans made a complete bollix of the two wars they started,
Gave huge tax cuts to the super rich,
Knew by April 2008 that a Financial Meltdown was coming. Paulson knew, but decided to stay silent because it was an election year, but the meltdown could not be delayed, so The Republicans gave hundreds of billions to their Wall St. Patrons, and threw tens of millions of working class Americans out of their jobs, and a great number of them out of their homes.
Republicans have never done anything to try and provide universal healthcare.
Just remind people of those facts, all through 2010, and they will not opt to vote for the shower of incompetent, and selfish creeps, that visited the sorrows of Job upon them.
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Then you might want to log on to the U2 concert.
Liam:
“Since they are the Party that created the economic meltdown, and the massive recession and loss of ten million jobs, who is it that is going to rush to let the Republicans do more of the same?
All Democrats have to do, is to keep reminding people who actually destroyed their lives, and we will retain most if not all of our seats”
That’s a nice myth for you to believe in, but the fact is that Dems were in it right up to their snouts too, and people instinctively realize it.
Generic Congressional approval ratings are STILL at levels that make George W Bush look like George Washington, and that is the reflection of the public perception.
Do we need to trot out the Community Reinvestment Act? Charles Rangel? Chris(”Move on from Countrywide, already!”) Dodd, and Barney,(”The Financial Industry is Sound”), Frank?
Fact of the matter is that the economy is forward, not backward-looking. They seek to predict and prepare for FUTURE circumstances.
And that means that Obama and the Democrats have OWNED this economy since November of 2008.
You wanted it, it’s YOURS. Deal.
“Stop with all the negative expectations. Get of your arses, and do something positive by reminding the voters, over and over, and over, and over, through election day, which Party created the mess, just like they did, under Hoover, and which Party always tries to restore the Working Class”
Yes…that’s the stuff! Go NAG the electorate until you get your way.
You really are tone-deaf to think that advocating public spending policies that are going to cause taxes to hike, (to say nothing of “Card-Check”, which will divert funds from workers’ accounts to the coffers of some union boss), is really perceived BY the Working Class as your prescription for restoring it.
Just outof curiosity, Liam, what is your line of work?
I work on a ship, I’m as blue-collar as they come, and was a union member for over twenty years.
For all your bluster and propaganda, I know that you ain’t at all about “restoring me”.
Hey Bilge: Here’s one for you. Good luck with that mighty ‘base’ of yours:
A new CNN/Opinion Research poll finds the Republican Party’s favorable rating is at lowest level in at least a decade. Just 36% of those questioned say they have a favorable opinion of the GOP, with 54% viewing the party negatively.
In contrast, 53% have a positive opinion of the Democratic Party, with 41% holding an unfavorable view.
Hey Bilge: Here’s some more for you:
Research 2000:
FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE
PRESIDENT OBAMA 56 37
CONGRESSIONAL DEMS: 40 53
CONGRESSIONAL GOPS: 15 70
DEMOCRATIC PARTY: 42 50
REPUBLICAN PARTY: 20 67
Sorry Bilgey. We only restore those who believe in the USA.
Neo-Confederate, Birther Nut Jobs, such as yourself, will just have to find yourselves a modern day Jefferson Davis.
Bilgey,
My steady line of work:
Shoveling sunshine disinfectant into Racist Arse Holes, such as you and SBJ
Liam:
“Neo-Confederate, Birther Nut Jobs, such as yourself, will just have to find yourselves a modern day Jefferson Davis.”
Works for me.
Yes, I’m a secessionist and i’d like to see Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth.
I hadn’t forgotten that.
Now isn’t it time for you to remind sbj that he is an elderly and overweight homosexual?
It’s been about twenty-four whole hours since you last informed him of that, and it may have slipped his mind in the intervening period.
Nick:
Got links? Or is the effort too much for you?
Liam:
“My steady line of work:
Shoveling sunshine disinfectant into Racist Arse Holes, such as you and SBJ”
Chicken-****.
I didn’t ask you your employer’s name and address, Mr. Friend O’ the Working Man, just a general kind of job description.
You ducked.
Butcher, Baker, Candle-stickmaker?
So what’s the big secret?
Prolly that you’re some pencil-pushing pogue or keyboard koding kowboy.
Or are you one of these “professional students” subsisting on the government dole for a dozen years or more and hoping to become a “Professor” so you can parasite off the working class for the rest of your life?
It’s because the Dems know that this Liberal Spend-a-thon comes to a screeching halt in January of 2011. So that’s why they’re hittin’ it like kids at their parents’ liquor cabinet when Mom and Dad are away for the weekend.
“Given the conservatives current zeal to nominate far right extremists to ensure ideological purity, they keep backing people so extreme as to be out of touch with the rest of America”
What is this? Politics as a Hall and Oates song? Who is out of touch, here?
Look, Obama won against a cadidate who was soundly rejected by the GOP Conservative base, and who was dragging around the heritage of “W”’s Administration, and yet despite this, he was only able to grab what…53% to McCain’s 46%, (a balloted difference of about 9.5 million votes).
Lessee… where to begin… the Liberal Spendathon? On what planet do you spend your time or have you dozed through the last 8 years of tax-cut and spend madness by the GOP? Spending like drunken frat boys with daddy’s AmEx Platinum…
Obama won against a candidate who was not popular with the GOP base but also was a thrice cancer survivor and nominated a veep who was CATNIP to the GOP base (says it all about the base there). He also won by a landslide. Yes a landslide. Bush claimed a mandate in both 2000, and 2004… Obama won in a landslide.
And, maybe they are acting quickly because a lot needs to be changed… we’ve “dithered” for 8 years on some very important legislation… time to get to work.
“Or are you one of these “professional students” subsisting on the government dole for a dozen years or more and hoping to become a “Professor” so you can parasite off the working class for the rest of your life?”
Bilgey, your mindless contempt for academia and its invaluable contributions to society (most of which, would never happen if the corporate sector was left to develop such innovations) precludes you from having the right to participate in any debate more substantive than whether a Big Mac or a Whopper tastes better.
“Any else noticing sbj, bildge and the other wingers carry on with the same hostility towards Greg.”
I think Greg would agree that I show him no hostility. We disagree, but I don’t treat him as an enemy.
Jen:
“Lessee… where to begin… the Liberal Spendathon? On what planet do you spend your time or have you dozed through the last 8 years of tax-cut and spend madness by the GOP? Spending like drunken frat boys with daddy’s AmEx Platinum”
I was paying attention, which was apparently more than can be said for you.
You missed all the guff that “w” took for his deficit spending from the Right, did you? His support of the Prescription Drug Plan/Grandpa’s Viagra Subsidy won him little but brickbats from the deficit hawks in the GOP.
“Obama won against a candidate who was not popular with the GOP base but also was a thrice cancer survivor and nominated a veep who was CATNIP to the GOP base (says it all about the base there). He also won by a landslide. Yes a landslide. Bush claimed a mandate in both 2000, and 2004… Obama won in a landslide.”
Jen, are you high right now?
How old WERE you in 2000?
WHAT “mandate” did Bush claim after the 2000 election? You know…the closest result in history?
Bush made some pablum noises about “Compassionate Conservatism” and tried to stay under the radar until 9/11 happened.
Now 2004 WAS a landslide, a thorough and respectable win with the largest electoral turnout to that date since 1968.
And what does John Mccain’s cancers have to do with anything?
“And, maybe they are acting quickly because a lot needs to be changed… we’ve “dithered” for 8 years on some very important legislation… time to get to work”
Okay…if that’s what you want to believe, I guess that’s what you WILL believe.
I still say that they’re playing “beat the clock”.
And you might want to think about this:
This HCR battle is going to be Obama’s Waterloo, because your party’s political agenda is going to suffer from “legislation fatigue” among voters.
Obama and the Congress Dems’ declining popularity in the polling is reflecting some of that, i would wager
Few doubt that SOME kind of compromise HCR might make it out by Christmas recess, but as far as bold new initiatives?
Forget it.
Heck, it’s taken you months just to get to a first down and get it reported out of committees and to the floors of the respective houses.
There’s still the floor votes, and then conference, and then the votes on the conference, and then the signing or vetoing of whatever oozes out of the process on the Hill.
holyhandgrenaid:
“Bilgey, your mindless contempt for academia and its invaluable contributions to society (most of which, would never happen if the corporate sector was left to develop such innovations) precludes you from having the right to participate in any debate more substantive than whether a Big Mac or a Whopper tastes better.”
Fascist, much?
I’m not the guy whose ashamed of my occupation.
Mr. “Liam O’The Working Class” is the one who balks at a simple harmless question.
Bilge, you insulted my profession. This stopped involving Liam a long time ago.
Why do I owe A Racist Birther Seccionest any personal details about myself. I would prefer to provide them to a dining table(With a nod to Congressman Barney) Than reveal my personal information to a Moron who says that he wants his state to secede from the Union, while at the same time, he wants the elected President of the Union, that the Moron is leaving, to provide him with a birth certificate.
Got that folks. Bilgey, The Uber Moron, wants to make sure that The President of the country that Bilgey wants out off, is legitimate.
And he thinks that I should explain my life history to him. Not going to happen,
holyhandgrenaid:
“Bilge, you insulted my profession. This stopped involving Liam a long time ago”
Ah, so you’re a professor? What do you teach?
Liam”
“And he thinks that I should explain my life history to him. Not going to happen,”
Who asked your life history? I just asked what you did for a living.
Maybe you’re a prostitute.
This would explain why you are so all-in for “Free” government health care, you poxy *****!
There is no maybes about what you Bilgey are. You are a Moron who both wants to make sure that the President of the USA is legitimate, at the same time that you do not want to be a part of the USA.
That makes it an absolute Slam Dunk, that you are an Uber Moron!
holyhandgrenaid:
Or are you a computer tech?
A clerk?
See, I;ve heard all kinds of soft-handed bozos try and tell my working-class blue-collar self what is best for me.
And they get quite squiffy when they get invited to go stuff themselves.
Almost as though I’m some kind of uppity white boy or something.
Again…it’s the repulsive arrogant nature of moonbat personalities that ensures your defeat.
Not yet Bilge, but that is what I hope to do when I’ve finished my doctorate in Geology, thank you very much.
My current status as a *ahem* ‘Professional student,’ as you’ve so kindly put it, is a personal choice purely; it is what I want to do with my life, research and teach. Not so I can one day ‘parasite off the working class’ as you’ve so astoundingly assumed that academics do.
holyhandgrenaid:
“Not yet Bilge, but that is what I hope to do when I’ve finished my doctorate in Geology, thank you very much”
You could, if you’ve got the grades and the competence, make a tidy private sector income from being a Geologist, as you no doubt are aware.
So you’d rather teach it than put the knowledge to use finding new oil, gas, coal, and ores?
It’s not like you’d be getting your hands dirty, and 3-D imaging has been a godsend down here in the ‘Patch.
Less exploratory wells, more efficient drilling.
“My current status as a *ahem* ‘Professional student,’ as you’ve so kindly put it, is a personal choice purely; it is what I want to do with my life, research and teach. Not so I can one day ‘parasite off the working class’ as you’ve so astoundingly assumed that academics do.”
As you then should also be well aware, parasitin’ off of the taxpayer via government education subsidies is exactly what all too many academics do.
And you are also aware that they will gladly mooch money from your research grants, (or protest that you even GET grants from eeeeeevil Exxon/Mobil or baaaaad Royal Dutch Shell), since so many of THEM have invested their lives in something at which they cannot make a living outside of the government’s teat.
You want to spend your professional career with such as these? Swell.
Meanwhile, greetings from the Perdido Canyon. The Spar should be finished by December. 150k BPOE a day.
Them ole plate tectonics sure jumbled up ancient Pangaea’s hydrocarbon fields, Find oil on Alaska’s North Slope, the North Sea, clear off the continental shelf in 8000 feet of water…heck those “dominoes” can be found anywhere under the table.
Makes me wonder if that wouldn’t be the case with other minerals as well.
But you’d rather not join the treasure hunt, I guess.
Just sit in a classroom and hope that your funding isn’t cut for the Womyn’s Studies Program over in the Humanities Department, (what with the government cutting student loan budgets n’all. Even if it’s YOUR work and not theirs that brought in that fat contract to the U from BP).
Knock yerself out.
But don’t presume to tell me, like Liam O’Prostitute does, what’s in MY working class interests.
“’History shows that we can do everything right and still lose seats,’” Van Hollen writes”
Yeah, well you guys haven’t done anything right. Heck, you haven’t done anything at all.
“The Republican brand in 1994 was becoming stronger, not weaker like it is today.”
Talk about not making any sense. Van Hollen is predicting that a party that suffered huge losses in 2006 and 2008 and is poised, as he admits, to make gains in 2010, is becoming weaker? If they get really, really weak, will they retake the House? With a dim bulb like Van Hollen behind reelection efforts, it would be amazing if they can win any races.
As with other attempts to build morale amongst Dems prior to the shellacking they are going to receive in 2010, the analysis completely ignores the elephant in the room: unemployment. You can parrot the ridiculous party of NO talking point all you want, when unemployment hits 10%, and stays well over 9% through the midterms, it won’t matter how much parts of the country hate the GOP. Dems in districts won by McCain and/or Bush are toast.
And the simple fact the guy feels the need to write a memo reassuring people that 2010 won’t be really bad means he obviously realizes it is not going to be a lot worse than they could have thought possible just nine months ago. The losses will certainly be more than the usual handful normally experienced in midterm elections.
Never underestimate the Right Wing.
Look at their allies: bilgewater is a right wing extremist who was talking about armed insurrection just this week (literally).
Many on the right have NO loyalty to America, to them it’s just a resource to cut up and divide amongst their small circle.
There is a significant subset of right wingers* that turned their backs on America’s values and principles a long time ago.
And now that the right wing aren’t in charge any more a small, violent subset (I’m talking about you bilgewater) are especially dangerous because they’re openly admitting a militantly anti-democratic and un-American worldview.
With militant extremists like bilgewater talking about armed insurrection, don’t underestimate what else those types would do.
* There are a LOT of patriotic right wingers and God Bless them. But the minority of violent extremists amongst them wield disproportionate power on the right and particularly in the Republican Party.
Joe and Bilgey set to star in a bio pic. Working Title: Plumber & Dumber.
NewsRef:
“: bilgewater is a right wing extremist who was talking about armed insurrection just this week (literally).”
Source, please…like quotes.
I talk about Secession, peaceably. It is you Federal Imperialists who conducted an illegal war of conquest and occupation.
Cite and quote your source so that we can all see that I was talking about the Confederate firing on Fort Sumter, not the impression you’re lying so hard to give.
Quote up or shut up, quackspeaker.
Mark: “Talk about not making any sense. Van Hollen is predicting that a party that suffered huge losses in 2006 and 2008 and is poised, as he admits, to make gains in 2010, is becoming weaker? If they get really, really weak, will they retake the House? With a dim bulb like Van Hollen behind reelection efforts, it would be amazing if they can win any races.”
First, this “dim bulb” seemed to do just fine in 2008.
Second, the argument makes sense just fine. The premise is that the party in the executive branch almost always loses seats in the midterm election. He’s just saying it won’t be on the scale of 1994 because the Republicans are not in as strong a position as they were then–as any polling outfit will verify. It’s really not that complicated.
“The losses will certainly be more than the usual handful normally experienced in midterm elections.”
Who knows? It’s pretty brash to be making predictions this far out, isn’t it? Won’t a lot happen between now and next November?
I think a lot depends on the economy. If jobs are picking up, then I think yes, Democratic losses will be restricted to a handful. If the jobs situation remains bad, then losses may be substantial–regardless of who if anyone bears the responsibility. Lots of times, people vote their pocketbooks and take out their frustrations on whomever is in office, even if the other party would have done a worse job had they been in control.
The militant right wing extremist bilgewater apparently can’t cope with the clear intent of his un-American assertions.
But what’s sad is that while bilgewater is the equivalent of an al-Qaeda terrorist (bilgewater supports taking up arms against his fellow Americans), it’s the failure of other right wingers in calling him out that makes a subset of the right wing the equivalent of the Taliban.
The Taliban hosted al-Qaeda and gave it sanctuary but were largely separate from it.
At this point, a significant subset of right wingers provide militant extremists like bilgewater sanctuary.
It’s well past time for true patriotic right wingers to start calling out the reckless right wing extremists like bilgewater and their anti-American statements.
NewsLiar can’t cite any quotes of mine to support his lies, so he flings more poo and shouts more slogans hoping nobody notices his lying.
quack-quack-quack…bilgewater!…quack-quack-quack…extremist!…quack-quack-quack…right wing!…quack-quck-quack.
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