MoveOn: Defeat For Right-Winger In NY-23 Is Defeat For Palin, Tea Partiers
The free-for-all House race in New York’s 23rd district has turned into a nationally watched referendum on the state and direction of the national GOP — and now the heavy-hitting left is entering the race, with MoveOn warning its massive membership that the right-wing candidate must be defeated in order to weaken the “Palin wing of the Republican party.”
The race — a three-way contest between conservative Douglas Hoffman, moderate GOPer Dede Scozzafava, and Dem Bill Owens — has drawn the attention of Palin and other big name conservatives who hope a Hoffman victory will boost their influence within the GOP.
Now MoveOn is seizing on the specter of a victory for Palin and the right to raise cash for the Dem. From MoveOn’s new email to its list:
Warning: A bizarre House race in upstate New York could end up giving a big national boost to Sarah Palin and the far right, and endangering health care reform in the House.
Here’s how: In a three-way race, Doug Hoffman, a right-wing third party candidate, has gotten Sarah Palin’s endorsement and become a cause célèbre for the far-right fringe. They think the Republican nominee is too liberal because she’s pro-choice and supports gay marriage…
If Hoffman wins, teabaggers and hate groups will have their own representative in Congress.
Palin and the tea partiers are such a potent fundraising draw on the left that you can bet national liberal money will flow into this once-obscure House race just to deny the Palin/tea party brigade a victory and a boost in influence. Getting interesting.
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I donated to Owens this morning.
I want the Democrat to win, but I do want the Right Winger to finish ahead of the Republican nominee.
I want the Right Wing Nutters to alienate all moderates.
But but but… the Dems are in trouble, right?
Looks to me like the GOP is fracturing at the seams.
I also want to point out that the two Gov races (VA + NJ) ARE indicative of political troubles.
1) VA is NOT a referendum on Obama. His approval there is about level with National
2) NJ IS a referendum on Bush
Right — imagine how huge a story it would be if Hoffmam won?
“The races we are going to win are referendums on Obama. The races we are going to lose don’t mean anything.”
November 2012 is when a referendum on Obama will be held.
All the rest is just Bull Shite.
special for tena (via weekly standard):
“Former Vice-President Dick Cheney will throw his support behind U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison’s campaign for governor.
“The Hutchison campaign confirmed Wednesday that Cheney will endorse the Texas Republican’s March primary challenge of Gov. Rick Perry at a fundraiser next month.”
With a salute to A Christmas Story;
He will shoot your face out, Kay!
When Northwest Pilot, Tim Cheney, was questioned as to what he was doing for the 90 minutes, when he could not be reached by traffic controllers, as he flew way past his destination,
Mr Cheney replied; Dithering!
Shouldn’t the Democratic Party be making an effort to pull these disaffected ‘moderate Republicans’ into their party?
What will be the response of Republicans like Dede Scozzafava when the heavy hitters in the GOP, officially representing the party or not, back conservative wingnut candidates? Will some give their party the upright middle finger and leave the party? The old adage “with friends like that, who needs enemies” seems quite apropos.
If the GOP drives out the few remaining moderates, their slide toward oblivion might just become inevitable. In their quest for ideological purity, Palin, Pawlenty, and Armey appear to be more than willing to deliver a coup de grace to the GOP.
Greg
Just got this. House to unveil HCR Thursday morning. The one with the negotiated rates.
http://www.kmph-kfre.com/Global/story.asp?S=11399933
Well , hate groups and Tea Baggers already have representation in Congress. It’s called the Republican Party.
Shouldn’t the Democratic Party be making an effort to pull these disaffected ‘moderate Republicans’ into their party?
If they aren’t already voting Democratic, then they aren’t moderates.
Greg –
ANOTHER GOP DEFECTOR.
David Ryon, a Ron Paul acolyte running against Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy (D-Ohio), is trying to pull a Doug Hoffman in Ohio.
Ryon announced today that he’s dropping out of the Republican primary, where he’d been challenging GOP favorite Steve Stivers, to run as a Constitution Party candidate. Ryon, who opposes abortion rights, said he can’t support Stivers because of the state senator’s pro-choice voting record.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1009/Independents_making_an_impact.html
Lovin’ this…..
I love this:
GOP TO ACORN AARP?
Republicans are so pumped with how the Acorn takedown went that they’ve decided to try the same thing with AARP. Not sure they’re going to come up with the same kind of material to work with but they’re giving it a try.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
@lmsinca: “And offering a new government-run plan for people without affordable coverage.”
I don’t understand why the news coverage keeps portraying the public option in this inaccurate manner. The public option is not designed for those who can’t afford coverage, it’s designed to compete with private insurers. Some of those who can’t afford coverage will have access to subsidies to purchase public or private insurance in the exchange.
The article also indicates that the House version will include the so-called opt out provision.
“ormer Vice-President Dick Cheney will throw his support behind U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison’s campaign for governor.”
O man = I’m delighted. If you thought this news wouldn’t sit well, sbj, you’re wrong again.
This gives the Democrat a chance. Cheney isn’t popular anywhere. And I thought Fluffy would walk off with the election on the basis of being a moderate Republican – cause she used to be. She was even pro-choice, back in the day, before the rightwing backlash against every single piece of civil rights legislation and every single civil rights SCOTUS decision that actually have the people civil rights.
I hope Cheney is very loud and very public with his support.
“If you thought this news wouldn’t sit well, sbj, you’re wrong again.”
Not at all – I thought you’d be interested.
Tena omg. Could they be that stupid?
Ethan – apparently, they are. Dreamy, ain’t it?
“I thought you’d be interested.”
I was – thank you.
sbj
The reporters writing the stories don’t have a clue apparently what the PO is.
Ethan – guess who is out front on this? Michelle Maglagoolygangbang.
Also sbj
They’re taling about the Senate bill when they mention the opt-out.
“The reporters writing the stories don’t have a clue apparently what the PO is.”
If the reporters consistently refer to the public option as govt insurance for people who can’t afford any other coverage – then I completely understand why polls show folks supporting the PO.
I seem to recall that AARP threw their support behind The Republicans Medicare Prescription Bill, which has been a disaster.
AARP sided with the Republicans, and that helped them to pass a bill with no Medicare bulk purchase price bargaining allowed.
“They’re taling about the Senate bill when they mention the opt-out.”
I don’t think so:
In the end, Pelosi, D-Calif., and other House leaders were unable to round up the necessary votes for their preferred version of the government insurance plan – one that would base paymentrates to providers on rates paid by Medicare. Instead, the health and human services secretary would be allowed to negotiate rates with providers and the program would be optional for states, the approach preferred by moderates and the one that will be featured in the Senate’s version.”
“I seem to recall that AARP threw their support behind The Republicans Medicare Prescription Bill, which has been a disa”
They were behind the medicare bill at first. I’m not sure anyone understood that bill – including the people who wrote it. My husband spent 2 weeks trying to figure it out for his mother, and my husband spends his life figuring out arcane, obscure language in contracts and statutes. He had to surrender on the medicare prescription bill – he called in our accountant and his mother’s supplemental insurance carrier agent.
Oh I missed that, sorry.
@Tena,
Is Kinky still on the ballot, and if he is, what sort of numbers is he taking away from the Democrat? Also, what the hell is Willie doing campaigning for Kinky. That guy does not a chance in hell of winning anything, and he is just taking votes away from the Democrat.
I thought Kinky was running as a Democrat?
Unreal Tena. She just retweeted the page on GOP.gov. I swear, twitter was made for these tools. No thinking, incomplete sentences, link to talking points on GOP site. Bingo bango, we have a manufactured controversy.
“Ethan – guess who is out front on this? Michelle Maglagoolygangbang.”
I can’t tell what this is: ethnic slur or sexist remark?
“twitter was made for these tools. No thinking, incomplete sentences, link to talking points on GOP site. Bingo bango, we have a manufactured controversy.”
Never could get into Twitter and I think I see why – you’re right.
sbj = I’m being childish; I’m making fun of her name and her persona.
You can make of that what you will – I do not care.
This is so hilarious. Moveon.org calling someone a hate group. I guess calling someone a traitor is too 2007.
“Moveon.org calling someone a hate group.”
Why do y’all bother trying to talk to us? If you really see this as reality then why do you bother? We see reality qua reality – and in reality, MoveOn is no hate group at all. It’s an advocacy organization and they advocate on policy. They don’t hate on anyone.
Now tell us all AGAIN about the one frakking video a private citizen submitted to MoveOn way back when, in which one private citizen compared Bush to Hitler, and tell us again how that was MoveOn when it wasn’t – it rejected the frakking video.
IF y’all insist on living in this parallel universe, where black is white, up is down and democracy is about hate – why bother trying to talk to us? We don’t live in that universe.
“sbj = I’m being childish”
Double standards much?
Ridiculous – you’re making fun of a person’s ethnicity and you are using a vile sexual reference. For shame.
“Ridiculous – you’re making fun of a person’s ethnicity and you are using a vile sexual reference. For shame.”
Dude, you approve of torture. Your attempts to lecture me or anyone else on morality are empty.
I don’t give a damn what you think on ethics or morality or hypocrisy. It’s meaningless – what you think.
I know you don’t care what I think but I don’t want to see such “jokes” on this blog.
“Ethan – guess who is out front on this? Michelle Maglagoolygangbang.”
“I don’t want to see such “jokes” on this blog.”
Hon, this isn’t your blog.
There are multiple definitions of the term “gangbang” and the one SBJ is using, is labeled as “slang”
The person who Tena was referring to has been joining up with other Far Right Wing Commentators to engage in A Gangbang assault on Newt Gingrich, and on other Republicans who talk about wanted to attract moderate voters.
Here is another legitimate definition of how the term “gangbang” is used;
http://www.mondofacto.com/facts/dictionary?gang+bang
The use of large numbers of loosely coupled programmers in an attempt to wedge a great many features into a product in a short time. Though there have been memorable gang bangs (e.g. that over-the-weekend assembler port mentioned in Steven Levy’s “Hackers”), most are perpetrated by large companies trying to meet deadlines; the inevitable result is enormous buggy masses of code entirely lacking in orthogonality. When market-driven managers make a list of all the features the competition has and assign one programmer to implement each, the probability of maintaining a coherent (or even functional) design goes infinitesimal.
Next thing you know Liam will be defining “is.”
SBJ, You are the slime ball who tried to get away with your own definition, in order to score a cheap point. I came up with legitimate definitions. You used a slang term.
You need to get out more, liam.
In other words, you have lost the debate again, as you usually do.
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You could punch it up a little;
How about:
Quitter Palin has made herself irrelevant.
MoveOn.org, what a joke. When Palin wrote an op/ed for the Washington Post on Cap and Trade, they went nuts. They sent out an email requesting donations to fund ads attacking Palin. They must not have gotten much. The ad the ran looked like some rank amature put it together in 5 minutes. It ran for a few days in the early morning hours on MSNBC, and a couple of other cable stations. Since the MoveOn.org email was given a lot of media coverage, all it did was alert the majority of people who oppose Cap and Trade that Palin was on their side, and it made MoveOn.org look like a bunch of pathetic losers. It’s time for MoveOn.org to move on to something else, like recycling cans and newspapers.
Mr. Sargent:
“The race — a three-way contest between conservative Douglas Hoffman, moderate GOPer Dede Scozzafava, and Dem Bill Owens — has drawn the attention of Palin and other big name conservatives who hope a Hoffman victory will boost their influence within the GOP.”
Only a moonbat’s crazed mind, riddled with cockroaches, could call DeDe Scozzafava a “moderate”.
And I understand that Hoffman is leading,(if you can cite Kos polls about Lieberman, I can cite Club For Growth and Minutemen polls about Hoffman):
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/10/27/ny23-new-poll-shows-hoffman-le
Of course, the REAL story is that Moonbats MoveOn is endorsing a Republican candidate…and virtually ignoring the bucket of rancid chicken gizzards running as a Democrat.
And what does that tell you?
That the national observers see this race is Hoffman’s and the Pro Abortion, Pro Card-Check.Scozzafava RINO.
The poor hapless Demicrat candidate is viewed as a palooka who’s likely going to be face-planted on the canvas in the third round.
Bilge,
Your are spouting b.s. as usual. Back up your claim that, “Of course, the REAL story is that Moonbats MoveOn is endorsing a Republican candidate…and virtually ignoring the bucket of rancid chicken gizzards running as a Democrat.” Cite the link on MoveOn.org’s website if you please.
This is from MoveOn.org:
Yeah, I can certainly see how they are actually backing Republican candidate Scozzafava, but they do so very cleverly by mentioning only supporting her Democratic opponent. How insidious. Are you a moron? Where is MoveOn’s support for Scozzafava? I won’t bother holding my breath while you search for a link. Cite chapter and verse to back up your b.s. or STFU.
Just once, would it be possible to base one of your responses upon some semblance of reality? Could you actually post something that is factually correct? Do you think that we can’t debunk your lies with about 45 seconds of web searching?
If you must constantly resort to hyperbolic lies and ad hominem attacks, it is because you cannot muster facts or reason to support your imbecilic buffoonery.
Sadly, you represent a rather typical Republican/Conservative style of “debate”; devoid of facts but plenty of bluster and volume.
Is it any wonder your side is losing the public debate and shrinking into oblivion?
Thanks for the article. I wasn’t really aware of this candidate. Now, I can visit http://doughoffmanforcongress.com/home.html and make a contribution myself…
The right wing of the GOP loses, 11/03/09. This is fantastic, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Thompson, Palin and all far right wingers need to revaluate their insane positions. Their mantra has been flush and purge the party of moderates and rinos. They just had that theory put to rest, but the reactionary political ideology of the far right will resist change and ride a dead horse to the ground, makes one wonder if their elevators run to the top. This area of NY had been Republican forever. The right wing came in and destroyed the moderate Republican’s chance of a win. This illustrates how the GOP has been hijacked by the religious right/far right fiscal conservative nuts. Lets end this nonsense in 2010 / 2012 vote for any party except the obstructionist party of NO.